Best Sleepers

Old Caravans, Dodge Shadows, Omnis, Old Probes, AE86, Regal T-Type. any others?

YA!! Minivans!! I've yet to associate AE86's as sleepers because they really aren't all that fast in a straightline... Even with the 4agze motor shoehorned in.

I think that any of the FWD Turbo Dodges and Chryslers were some of the best sleepers, except the Daytona.

don't forget a metro.

swap in the 1.3 rot from an rx-7 tt...who'd ever think?

Ford Focus ZX3 with a N/A 4V Cobra motor. Saw it at FFW :evillol:

Hey, are we talking stock sleepers or modded sleepers here, cuase if you modded sleepers I have a great one.

Hey, are we talking stock sleepers or modded sleepers here, cuase if you modded sleepers I have a great one.

Yea I guess I went off the stock thing. So hit us with your non-stock winner!

20b RX-3.... i want one in a BAD way.

How about a 1995 Buick Roadmaster Limited Edition?? Runs the 1/4 mile in 15 sec. flat stock since it's powered by a massive 5.7L V8....

Kinda makes you think twice about that 4-door buick sedan next to you at a stoplight, huh? :evillol:

How about a 1995 Buick Roadmaster Limited Edition?? Runs the 1/4 mile in 15 sec. flat stock since it's powered by a massive 5.7L V8....

Kinda makes you think twice about that 4-door buick sedan next to you at a stoplight, huh? :evillol:

thats hardly sleeper speed is it?

Volvo S70 T5 runs 14.5
i bet the new S60 R does 13 something or less. (it has 300hp)

But it's a Buick! Any stock Buick that's remotely quick qualifies as a sleeper in my book....

Yea, yea, I know. The Grand National is hardly a sleeper, tho.

i personally want to buy a STi then take off all the decals, get the wing taken off and move the intercooler to the front and get a flat RS 2.5 hood.... no one would know wtf knew what hit them...

see you buy a nice car that runs good then make it look like a sleeper

i personally want to buy a STi then take off all the decals, get the wing taken off and move the intercooler to the front and get a flat RS 2.5 hood.... no one would know wtf knew what hit them...

see you buy a nice car that runs good then make it look like a sleeper

you'd be better off buying the Sti Spec C it has all the same stuff just lighter and no wings and stuff. Japan only tho.

Yea I guess I went off the stock thing. So hit us with your non-stock winner!


Id have to say a plymoth laser rs. Swap a mitsu 4g63 with a fully build motor, 20g turbo, with all the goodies including an awd tranny. Itd be an ugly ass car but no one would expect a laser to have 600+ hp with 2000lbs or less weight to boot...

agreed most stock looking dsm are sleepers
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Yea I guess I went off the stock thing. So hit us with your non-stock winner!

Alright; it was a 1970 Dodge Challenger. Not much of a sleeper except he had 340 badges on it. Too bad it was far too loud to be a 340. When the guy took off at the light all I could think was that it wasn't street legal. Talked to him later and it wasn't. He had a twin supercharged 528 Hemi under the hood. The body was custom made and a lot lighter than the original. He had a lot of frame and suspension work done as well. I looked the car over and the guy must have been rich. Not too much of a sleeper but a hell of a lot more than I was expecting.

Id have to say a plymoth laser rs. Swap a mitsu 4g63 with a fully build motor, 20g turbo, with all the goodies including an awd tranny. Itd be an ugly ass car but no one would expect a laser to have 600+ hp with 2000lbs or less weight to boot...

The Plymouth Laser could be had with Turbo and AWD. Why bother with the swap? Also it didn't look much different from the same year Talons and Eclipse. They are the same exact cars. Also, DSMs are NOT sleepers. Some people even think that the new Eclipse is fast.

Just my personal opinion but I think a sleeper should not look at all fast, and should look 100% stock. I saw a old beat up buick on the highway the guy was doing the speed limit until this camry kept trying to cut him off than he floored it and I don't know what he was running under there but he took off like no one's business.

Alright; it was a 1970 Dodge Challenger. Not much of a sleeper except he had 340 badges on it. Too bad it was far too loud to be a 340. When the guy took off at the light all I could think was that it wasn't street legal. Talked to him later and it wasn't. He had a twin supercharged 528 Hemi under the hood. The body was custom made and a lot lighter than the original. He had a lot of frame and suspension work done as well. I looked the car over and the guy must have been rich. Not too much of a sleeper but a hell of a lot more than I was expecting

This is probably a Noob question but how do you twin supercharge a motor? Two throttle bodies? I've never heard of that before...

Please. Enlighten me. :rolleyes:

agreed most stock looking dsm are sleepers
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yes, i do agree.
other sleepers:
240sx w/ SR20DET, RB motors
Talon/Elclipse AWD
Civics
Accords
Integra
and thats all i can think about..

To me any more the best sleeper would be a car with all the body kits and paint jobs done to it .. cuz for me .. when i see car slow lookn car tryn to race and stuff i just get the vibe that he is sleepn .. but when ever you see alot of the show cars tryn to race .. you think he just some dude that spent all his time and money on his body and and maken his car look like a race car but really aint ..

you see a ton of hondas / acuras and mitu's with body kits that are just slow as hell .. and see mass cars lookn slow . just pulln on people ..

( just some thin i been noticeing more and more .. that what we used to call sleepers we can racers and what we would call racers are sleepers .)

Just my personal opinion but I think a sleeper should not look at all fast, and should look 100% stock. I saw a old beat up buick on the highway the guy was doing the speed limit until this camry kept trying to cut him off than he floored it and I don't know what he was running under there but he took off like no one's business.


I think a sleeper is a car that you wouldnt think is fast for any reson .. not really a car that is stock and/or a slow stock car LOOKing ..

Sleeping isnt aboutbeing stock .. its more about tricking the other racer .. so really a good sleeper would be some basic car you see with the loudest exhauts you could find and a side mount intercooler and very silent blow off .. and make people think your rideing it hard and be slow .. till you really get on it .. sleeping is about hiding the truth.. just what i think ..lol .. Nissan and mitsu trucks with sr20det or 4g63 swap's ... in a stock lookn truck .. lol

Volvo S70 T5 runs 14.5
i bet the new S60 R does 13 something or less. (it has 300hp)
i'd have to say volvo also, the s70's are phat. my bro has a volvo 850 "wagon" t-5r, runs a flat 15.0.

i guess i got a sleeper too, 95 nissan maxima gxe, stick. runs a 14.9 all stock.

I know back when I had my 2.8 I could pull off a 15.1 in the 1/4 not sure if thats really sleeper status.. but everyone thinks I slapped formula on the side and put rims on my car :biggrin: so I guess you could say mine is..? the look on their faces afterwards is priceless..

A guy's recent attempt in a 3800 Grand Prix.. he just joined the Grand Prix Forum and I noticed he was from alma, the place I live. Anyways I asked him what color it was cause I thought it might've been the one guy that I shocked.

"It's i guess, maple red, is what GM calls it. I'm sure you probably remember my headlights fading in your rearview. haha, ya had me good, nice sleeper."

heres a sleeper for ya, take a crappy ass lookin car..hmmm.....oh a 1989 Mazda 323 hatchback, and install a bluebird SR20DET. modify the engine and crank the boost up to 20psi or higher...after pressing the Qtec button on a 4.5 in downpipe..

or how about this...
1989 Delorean with a RB26DETT and a larger turbo upgrade with Mines ECU and boost it and when you win..tell them your flux capacitor gives you 200 more horsepower..lol


im just messin..i dont even know what im talking about..i need a drink.

skyline r32 GTR. thats the only car i know of.

(btw anyone how did i get so many posts? i dont think i posted that much)

heres a sleeper for ya, take a crappy ass lookin car..hmmm.....oh a 1989 Mazda 323 hatchback, and install a bluebird SR20DET. modify the engine and crank the boost up to 20psi or higher...after pressing the Qtec button on a 4.5 in downpipe..

or how about this...
1989 Delorean with a RB26DETT and a larger turbo upgrade with Mines ECU and boost it and when you win..tell them your flux capacitor gives you 200 more horsepower..lol


im just messin..i dont even know what im talking about..i need a drink.

No need for the sr20 in the 323 they a GTX model which was basically turbo'd and awd made like 140-160 hp if I'm not mistaken and they can handle some good amounts of boost I've seen some with about 300hp.

a black volvo 240 with a supercharged V8 in it

a black volvo 240 with a supercharged V8 in it

Or just get a Turbo motor from a 700 or 900 series they can handle quite a bit of boost and in doing so you wouldn't get all the extra weight from the v8 and just keep the 4 cyl.

Cherokee Sport is a sleeper, does 1/4 in 13 secs. Stock Condtion. Fixed up, I think u can get it down to 12

Riiiiiighhhht :screwy:

The only way you'll ever get a Jeep Cherokee into 13's or even more unhead of 12's would be to supercharge a 360 and toss it in there and strip the interior and you might hit 12's. And just to go off some evidence a Viper GTS runs the 1/4 at about 12.9 - 13.5 with a good driver.

Or just get a Turbo motor from a 700 or 900 series they can handle quite a bit of boost and in doing so you wouldn't get all the extra weight from the v8 and just keep the 4 cyl.

swedes do either on a regular basis

GIS3 DVD has a 11 second Volvo (red) 850 T5 with no exterior mods and doing teh 1/4 on steelies

swedes do either on a regular basis

GIS3 DVD has a 11 second Volvo (red) 850 T5 with no exterior mods and doing teh 1/4 on steelies
where can i get a copy of that dvd??? that'd make a great xmas present for my brother.

Riiiiiighhhht :screwy:

The only way you'll ever get a Jeep Cherokee into 13's or even more unhead of 12's would be to supercharge a 360 and toss it in there and strip the interior and you might hit 12's. And just to go off some evidence a Viper GTS runs the 1/4 at about 12.9 - 13.5 with a good driver.

I was kidding around bro! lol calm yourself :P

But will that really work? you can really make a jeep cherokee a sleeper?

Great Sleeper a Shogun= Ford Festiva with V-6 220HP SHO motors crammed in them, 50 where made. Now that is a Fucking sleeper!!!!


Get a Grand Cherokee with the 5.9 motor all time 4WD. Slap on a Powerdyne S/C kit, full length headers, exhuast. Mid 13's easy with full interior.

I'm still partial to pimping out a Ford Pinto! There's one in town that's restored, but not modded.

Alright; it was a 1970 Dodge Challenger. Not much of a sleeper except he had 340 badges on it. Too bad it was far too loud to be a 340. When the guy took off at the light all I could think was that it wasn't street legal. Talked to him later and it wasn't. He had a twin supercharged 528 Hemi under the hood. The body was custom made and a lot lighter than the original. He had a lot of frame and suspension work done as well. I looked the car over and the guy must have been rich. Not too much of a sleeper but a hell of a lot more than I was expecting.


It's one hell of a sleeper alright, the 340 Challenger was a dog! The E body Chryslers weighed in at around 3600lbs, IIRC, and the 340 was delivered with a bad exhaust system and the ignition severely retardted through it's entire curve.

Now a blown stroker hemi, that has just about enough grunt to get a Challenger off the line, especially with a custom body to drop the weight :icon16:

Oh, I forgot to throw in my ultimate sleeper.

1986 Ford Aerostar 2.8, with the V6 badges removed. Well, not so much removed as rusted of :iceslolan

New engine will be a 302 Ford, fairly low compression, but with more than enough grunt to get a 3200lb van moving comfortably, probably 14 second 1/4s. :evillol:

A Yugo GV. Because the Yugo's engine and transmission were based off of Fiat's 128, it's easy to swap a 1.5 liter engine from an X19 into the place of the Yugo's little 1.1 liter unit, and that alone is major upgrade for power and speed. The Yugo in my sig has a 2.0 liter engine in it.
The orignal engine was 55hp, the Fiat 1.5 is 75hp but easily tuned to much higher outputs.

yea i think the ultimate sleeper would have to be that chrysler/dodge minivans that came turbocharged from the factory. i want one, just imagine beating someone really bad in one of those, the look on their face would be priceless.

i can't only one person mentioned the maxima. my dad has a 2003 maxima and it kicks ass. it does 0-60 in less than 6 and a half seconds. he has the SE model too, so it handles like a sports car (well not THAT good, but it's still really good for a sedan). if anybody is looking for a fairly cheap, fast sedan, i highly recommend the maxima. my dad got his for about 24,000.

My car with a V6 bumper, running dumps, and pony badges. :D :evillol:

Thinking of swapping the hood though, dont know to what. :dunno:

What about this mini pushing 350hp :naughty: ?

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For the britisch people, we coming to Donington on juli 27the to the "mini racing festival" weekend with our little devil.

greetings

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Belgium:flash:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50889

http://www.misteryracing.com/sennake/belcar_01/71_01.jpg

Take off the wing, the paint job, and most of the visible changes and you'd have a deadly sleeper :) If a mini rolled up beside you and reved it's engine then you raced it and got you ass handed to you. I'm sure you'd be surprised :)

i can't only one person mentioned the maxima. my dad has a 2003 maxima and it kicks ass. it does 0-60 in less than 6 and a half seconds. he has the SE model too, so it handles like a sports car (well not THAT good, but it's still really good for a sedan). if anybody is looking for a fairly cheap, fast sedan, i highly recommend the maxima. my dad got his for about 24,000.



i presume that the SE is the one with the 3.5 VQ rirght?


those new 3.5 VQ maximas are quik but to notorious because of the engine to make good sleepers.


IMo the best sleeper are the car anyone expects to be complete dogs like a festiva or a metro.....

I can't believe in this whole thread, nobody has mentioned this particular car ;) :

http://www.rc.i4m.org/Sentra.jpg

You don't really have to do anything to it to make it a sleeper. Mine has fading paint, so it makes it that much more "sleeper". Nobody recognizes what the "SE-R" means in such a boxy, old car :D.

Besides, a little de-badging, wing/foglamp deletion, will amplify things even more.

Now imagine an SR20DET swap in that de-badged car with steel rims...

Other than that, an Omni GLH-S, that runs 14.8 STOCK, or any of the older turbo-Dodges would work too, especially a K-car.

i can't only one person mentioned the maxima. my dad has a 2003 maxima and it kicks ass. it does 0-60 in less than 6 and a half seconds. he has the SE model too, so it handles like a sports car (well not THAT good, but it's still really good for a sedan). if anybody is looking for a fairly cheap, fast sedan, i highly recommend the maxima. my dad got his for about 24,000.
as nuetrino said, the new max's are known to be really fast from the manufacturer. no one messes with them... they know what's up :evillol: well at least they don't mess with the 3.5's

but know one knows about the 95-99 maxima... i have a 95 max gxe and it does a 14.9 stock, that's only two tenths second less than the new 3.5. and i got mine for 21000 less. :biggrin: think of the mods i can do with 21000....

take a look at this beast maxima http://www.hlh0501.com/

he has almost 500hp and he only wants 12000 for it. the turbo kit is less than 5k/installed.

I can't believe in this whole thread, nobody has mentioned this particular car ;) :

http://www.rc.i4m.org/Sentra.jpg

You don't really have to do anything to it to make it a sleeper. Mine has fading paint, so it makes it that much more "sleeper". Nobody recognizes what the "SE-R" means in such a boxy, old car :D.

Besides, a little de-badging, wing/foglamp deletion, will amplify things even more.

Now imagine an SR20DET swap in that de-badged car with steel rims...

Other than that, an Omni GLH-S, that runs 14.8 STOCK, or any of the older turbo-Dodges would work too, especially a K-car.
Because theyre ugly and slow and nobody would be caught driving let alone owning one :p :D ...

j/k, now take your mouse away from the "Ban" option ;) :p


Also, dont you remember Carrrnut??? It isnt a sleeper if it has a power adder :lol:

Also, dont you remember Carrrnut??? It isnt a sleeper if it has a power adder :lol:

Oh yah...that one...LOL. I can't even remember what troll said that one...

Besides, no power-adder yet, so according to him, I'm REALLY sleeper ;).

Oh yah...that one...LOL. I can't even remember what troll said that one...

Besides, no power-adder yet, so according to him, I'm REALLY sleeper ;).
I sleeper would be a car that is unsuspection to others. So to everyone here who knows your car, then it doesn't count, cause we all know what it can do.
:biggrin:
On the street though, this is a different story.

where can i get a copy of that dvd??? that'd make a great xmas present for my brother.


www.getawayinstockholm.com

has NTSC DVD's but they cost like $34 (i just bought GIS4 for this price)

www.play.com has PAL DVD's (EUROPEAN STANDARD) whether or not it has NTSC DVD (US TV COMPATIBLE) is another matter.

civics aren't sleepers, peopel know there fast. I"m talking about cars that look shitty but are fast as fuck with a little internal work. Omni's are sleepers, an honda mini van with nos is a sleeper (my friend hooked pu prelude got his ass handed to him by a Odyessy that sprayed him). The sleepers I'm talking about are cars that are not meant to be fast, but people make them that way.

www.getawayinstockholm.com

has NTSC DVD's but they cost like $34 (i just bought GIS4 for this price)
awesome.

so number 3 has the volvo?? that place looks cool, i might get all 4 right now.

later,
-mark

Old ass Cavalier Z24 Hatches. Damn now thats my kinda sleeper (or my car also).

ALL my cars in GT3 are sleepers, no body kits, no nothin, jus extremely high horsepower! but where i live, i have heard of a 11 sec Supra singo turbo. I kno like 5 DSM sleepers including one 3000GT VR4...very scary sleepers. but those cars rarely come where i street race, i call them the Wanderers.. :iceslolan

civics aren't sleepers, peopel know there fast. I"m talking about cars that look shitty but are fast as fuck with a little internal work. Omni's are sleepers, an honda mini van with nos is a sleeper (my friend hooked pu prelude got his ass handed to him by a Odyessy that sprayed him). The sleepers I'm talking about are cars that are not meant to be fast, but people make them that way.

1. Civics aren't sleepers because they aren't fast.

2. So you're saying that you can't have a sleeper from the factory? The Omni GLH came like that from the factory, all the turbo Dodges did.

On another note, I don't see you guys can call The Eclpise/Laser/Talon and the 3000GT/Stealth sleepers. Do you even know the defenition? A sleeper is something that you don't expect to be fast. When you see those cars you do expect them to be. Hell, I know people that think the new Elcipse is fast.

:sly: Civics.... faaaa-st??? :eek7:












:rofl:

:sly: Civics.... faaaa-st??? :eek7:












:rofl:
fastest one i've seen was one that ran a 13.3 at the track. he had his helmet on so he was hoping to get into the 12's... that didnt happen :p

fastest civic ive seen at a track was an 11 sec crx, it had a turbocharged integra motor in it, and it was street legal. i ve also heard about, but never saw at a track, an all motor 11 sec crx with a b18c in it, the guy took everything out to reduce weight, and replace a lot of parts with lighter ones. this was also street legal.

fastest civic ive seen at a track was an 11 sec crx, it had a turbocharged integra motor in it, and it was street legal. i ve also heard about, but never saw at a track, an all motor 11 sec crx with a b18c in it, the guy took everything out to reduce weight, and replace a lot of parts with lighter ones. this was also street legal.
Civic SiR's, B18c Integras and H22a Preludes are very unassuming- especially in thier JDM trims

The Peugeot 306 GTi-6 looks like something Granny would be drive- but beware- don't let it catch you off guard

The MINI Cooper S, Renault Clio RS (Esp. with a Tuned ECU, Intake and exhaust- honoured by the factory warranty) and the Peugeot 206 RC180 all look like little City cars- but can go to 100 km/h in less than 7 seconds.

How about a Holden Commodore SS (a VY one) with Executive bumpers, headlights and badges- and chuck on Hubcaps- or would the V8 rumble give it away??

Nissan Laurels powered by RB25's and A#1 Cefiros in a decent state of tune are also vey sleeper like- especially if you make them look like diesels :lol:

The Lancer GSR looks like any other Lancer- but is shockingly fast- basically a detuned Evo........

The Alfa ROmeo 156 GTA is scorchingly quick but looks like just another Q car- as does the Subaru Legacy GT (latest model that was in EVO a few months ago)

And we can't forget the Audi S4 and Mercedes-Benz AMG Cars..........

And we can't forget the Audi S4 and Mercedes-Benz AMG Cars..........


Hmm... I wouldn't call those last two "sleepers" per se... especially the E55 AMG for example; definitely not a sleeper. :)