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fatninja19
10-30-2003, 02:49 PM
fastest civic ive seen at a track was an 11 sec crx, it had a turbocharged integra motor in it, and it was street legal. i ve also heard about, but never saw at a track, an all motor 11 sec crx with a b18c in it, the guy took everything out to reduce weight, and replace a lot of parts with lighter ones. this was also street legal.

too bad that CRX isn't street legal here in CA...


Is it ok for other states to swap in dohc motors in cars who came with sohc motors from the factory?

mynismo
10-30-2003, 05:05 PM
as long as the engine going in is from a car that is newer than the car it's going in, and it was made in the states, you can put whatever engine you want in any car.

that's whats so great about the dodge colt / mitsu mirage swap, swapping in a '98 eclipse gst engine in it is 100% legal and will pass emissions. you gotta love that swap.

http://www.turbomirage.com - more info

go check out the video clips. awesome little cars.


wanna watch these guys laugh like lil girls after they beat a skyline?
http://www.kentallman.com/lilevo/lilevo_skyline.wmv

fatninja19
10-30-2003, 05:28 PM
Back in my phase of desiring a b16/b18 powered CRX, I was told that it'd be about 150 bucks to smog the car...

tha_new_guy
10-31-2003, 12:04 AM
Hmm... I wouldn't call those last two "sleepers" per se... especially the E55 AMG for example; definitely not a sleeper. :)
I don't know about that, man. Take an E55 AMG, strip off the badges, slap on some stock E-series wheels, and you got a fairly large silver 4-door sedan capable of beatin Porche Boxters. Sounds sleeper-like to me.

Twyzz
11-04-2003, 07:49 PM
Geez people, get off honda's ass! You see quick CRX's all the time. this is a topic about sleepers, not commonly known cars that can be fast. I'm talking about cars they don't sell body kits for and no one knows there fast.

OoNismoO
11-04-2003, 07:56 PM
Geez people, get off honda's ass! You see quick CRX's all the time. this is a topic about sleepers, not commonly known cars that can be fast. I'm talking about cars they don't sell body kits for and no one knows there fast.

hell yea!!

Polygon
11-04-2003, 08:14 PM
Geez people, get off honda's ass! You see quick CRX's all the time. this is a topic about sleepers, not commonly known cars that can be fast. I'm talking about cars they don't sell body kits for and no one knows there fast.

The point was that a CRX isn't fast stock. I'll not argue that with a swap and some work they can be made into a sleeper.

skilligan
01-03-2004, 11:19 PM
hi all, I was just wondering if anybody knows if you can throw a 2.5Lturbo into a dodge onmi, if any one has expieriance, please let me know.... yeah a NORMAL dodge omni, not a glh.. thanks .

MustangRoadRacer
01-04-2004, 10:33 AM
you can probably fit a chevy 350 in a dodge omni.I don't see why not.

topgear00
01-04-2004, 12:09 PM
I remember hearing about a turbocharged Vitz/Yaris that ran like 13 or 14...I personally wouldn't see that one coming.

Cbass
01-04-2004, 12:57 PM
An early 90s stock Civic hatch back with a 3 foot wing on the back and APC stickers.

Why would this be considered a sleeper? People would be too busy laughing to race, and nobody would expect it to be fast ;)

Anyone mention a AE86 4A-GZE yet? Or a Thunderbird SC? Or the alltime best sleeper.

A late 70s V8 Vega.

SpaceManSpiff
01-04-2004, 02:54 PM
If you have the money, how about an IS300 with a 2jz-gte in it?

And no one's mentioned the fastiva yet... festiva with a b6t in it.

Hondas make decent sleepers because while most people know they can go fast, most people don't expect a civic with a body kit and wing to be running low 13s or faster. How about an h22 accord?

Turbo shadows? How about a dodge spirit r/t?

Bunta
01-04-2004, 03:23 PM
Sleepers can mean different things I guess. It might be a fast piece of shit, or a car nobody recognizes as fast. Since everybody I want to race thinks that their car is the fastest thing on the road, I vote my 1972 BMW Bavaria to be the best sleeper from my experience. It weighs 3000lbs, has four wheel disc brakes (that are the best I or the previous owner have felt on a stock car), dual downdraft carbed 3.0 liter that makes about 190hp and more torque. This thing is great on the freeway and no slouch in the cornering department. It's not tricky or anything, really stable, good road manners. Plus it is beige with the stock chrome hubcaps (BBS coming).

Since BMW used the same basic motor from '69-'94, I could easily drop in a 3.5 (with triple side drafts, or FI) and get around 250HP with a five speed. Did I mention it's beige? My 2002 is rusty and poop brown (paint soon) but it rocks. Of course, this car wasn't bad either (drove it from Tacoma WA to Shelton)

http://www.hctc.com/~pmauto/boss02motor.jpg

Yes, that is an S14 M3 motor in a 2002.

Cbass
01-04-2004, 06:47 PM
That's your 2002? :sunglasse

Nice to see another German car nut on this board, can't let people forget who makes the best cars :iceslolan

boosted331
01-04-2004, 07:29 PM
Go find a picture of lee howies LX, he drove it on the street a lot, looked like a mustang hatchback with a 1.5" cowl, and a 28x10.5 E/T street, not horribly uncommon on a typical 10 or 11 second street mustang, but it went low 8's @ 170+.

01venom_
01-04-2004, 08:22 PM
thats hardly sleeper speed is it?

Volvo S70 T5 runs 14.5
i bet the new S60 R does 13 something or less. (it has 300hp)

The new s60 r runs a 14.0 in the 1/4 because of its high safety ratings and all that extra weighted shit on the car.

The Ford Fairmont has to be the best sleeper ever. It looks like a heavy beast but really weighs somewhere around 2900 I think, correct if wrong, but a very good sleeper.

Cbass
01-04-2004, 09:36 PM
Yeah, the Fairmont is a classic sleeper. I saw a nice buildup on one using a 392ci stroker, made around 450hp.

beast2.0
01-19-2004, 10:30 PM
What about a mk1 mk2 gti with a turbo vr6? A little old vedub with over 300 hp. Or the 60-70s beetles with some money thoes will pull the front wheels off the ground and run 10s. Who has seen a 10 sec beetle? Just check the mag hot vws or something like that. There are tons of 10 sec beetles out there. I am not sure if they are street legal though. It still would be fun to smoke a nice new vett in a rusty beetle. I can't believe anyone has talked about these yet.

Chavez408
01-20-2004, 12:18 AM
maybe a geo metro?

89Turbo944
01-20-2004, 03:57 AM
A turbo Geo is pretty quick, also V6 pinto, Ford Coswerth, 190E 16valve AMG tuned, Galant

Polygon
01-20-2004, 01:21 PM
hi all, I was just wondering if anybody knows if you can throw a 2.5Lturbo into a dodge onmi, if any one has expieriance, please let me know.... yeah a NORMAL dodge omni, not a glh.. thanks.

Of course you can. You fit can a 2.2L TBI, 2.5L TBI, 2.2L T1, 2.5L T1, 2.2L TII, 2.2L TIV, or a 2.2L TIII into ANY Omni. The mounts are all the same. If you're going to do a swap make sure you get an A-520, A-555, or A-568 transmission to bolt onto the engine along with ALL the underhood wires and computer. If you need any help just ask.

you can probably fit a chevy 350 in a dodge omni.I don't see why not.

That would just be a bad idea.

1969Stang
01-20-2004, 05:22 PM
buick century with the l67 3.8 liter supercharged engine swap. build the motor 500 hp in a car that could be less then 2700 pounds. 1989 weights under 3000...so there its done...sleeper 4 door...not as good as the mini van though

1969Stang
01-20-2004, 05:29 PM
or a pinto with the thunderbird turbo coupe engine.

PunkAlex
01-20-2004, 06:04 PM
or a pinto with the thunderbird turbo coupe engine.

that was in SCC! heh runnin 13s on street tires

king4you
01-20-2004, 10:25 PM
Best sleeper has to be my 91 Nissan Stanza Xe with a Pulsar Gti-R SR20DET swap. Pushing 250 at the wheels right now. E/T 13.5

carrrnuttt
01-20-2004, 11:16 PM
Best sleeper has to be my 91 Nissan Stanza Xe with a Pulsar Gti-R SR20DET swap. Pushing 250 at the wheels right now. E/T 13.5

Nice! Another Nissan sleeper on AF...

Pics?

ac427cpe
01-20-2004, 11:58 PM
oooooooo that'd probably give my 3sgte powered mk1 mr2 a run for it's money :D

we need to do an AF meet/race sometime...

king4you
01-22-2004, 01:07 PM
I'll meet up alright, if your in Sacramento, CA.

http://www.teamnse.com/forum/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=70070286 1;start=30

carrrnuttt
01-22-2004, 01:36 PM
I'll meet up alright, if your in Sacramento, CA.

http://www.teamnse.com/forum/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=70070286 1;start=30

Got this from your link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2454089596&category=6401

THAT's my goal this coming year for my SE-R :D.

jon@af
01-22-2004, 02:16 PM
Got this from your link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2454089596&category=6401

THAT's my goal this coming year for my SE-R :D.
I want that car, that's a pimp little ride.

Turboaddict
01-25-2004, 03:13 PM
90 grand prix 4 door STE Turbo I paid 1000 for the car and have around 500 in mods and I'm in the mid-upper 14's add another thousand to that and I'll be in the 13's

stock specs 3.1L v6 205hp 220tq with a little t25= full boost by 2000rpm




marcus

Chavez408
01-25-2004, 03:34 PM
maybe a wheel chair with a enzo engine in it and rollin on dubz with a 150 shot of NAAAWZ and with a chrome beer holder and a bumper sticker that says "i live my life a 1/4 mile a day", oh oh and dont forget the green lime body color...think bout it wink wink

wingsofwar
01-25-2004, 03:35 PM
72 Nissan 240z with RB26DETT with RB30 head.

or

Liquid Shwarts Powered Winibego with nice Giant wing...literally :lol: :rofl: :evillol: :lol2:

hybridsol
01-25-2004, 06:39 PM
a primered 89 CRX. :biggrin:

bad360rt
01-25-2004, 07:26 PM
See avatar and sig :biggrin:

Altho, the exhaust and blower whine make it hard to really be a sleeper LOL But people still don't expect it from a truck, I love that.

Chavez408
01-25-2004, 08:54 PM
thats a nice truck bad360rt :thumbsup:

bad360rt
01-25-2004, 09:14 PM
Thanks Chavez. Awesome avatar :iceslolan

pod
01-25-2004, 11:37 PM
for stock a probe gt 5 spd v6

for modded a subaru wrx with a twin turbo h6

-The Stig-
01-26-2004, 02:12 AM
for stock a probe gt 5 spd v6

for modded a subaru wrx with a twin turbo h6



WRX has a Horizontally opossed 4-cylinder... Where are you getting the H-6 motor from?

Does anybody make a twin turbo setup for a WRX? I'd prefer a single large turbo since it's already plumbed into the system.

89Turbo944
01-26-2004, 02:15 AM
That is very strange. 4 and 6 are to far apart to accidentially hit one meaning the other. So its a H-6 TT. Intresting, never heard of it before. You got pics of it?
Id love to see them.

Neutrino
01-26-2004, 05:25 AM
for stock a probe gt 5 spd v6

for modded a subaru wrx with a twin turbo h6


by H6 i presume you mean boxter engine

but i don't recall any subaru 6 cyl boxters only 4 cyl

the only 6 cyl boxters i know of are in porsche

-The Stig-
01-27-2004, 01:31 AM
by H6 i presume you mean boxter engine

but i don't recall any subaru 6 cyl boxters only 4 cyl

the only 6 cyl boxters i know of are in porsche



Actually, suprisingly enough the Outback has a 3.0L H6 engine.

212hp @ 6000rpm
210tq @ 4400rpm


I was informed by a long time friend... after calling me lots of bad names. :mad:


Stupid HybridSol... :grinno:

Neutrino
01-27-2004, 01:51 AM
Actually, suprisingly enough the Outback has a 3.0L H6 engine.

212hp @ 6000rpm
210tq @ 4400rpm


I was informed by a long time friend... after calling me lots of bad names. :mad:


Stupid HybridSol... :grinno:


cool did not know that :)

broddie50
01-28-2004, 03:58 AM
how bout a datsun b210 with one of those r2d2 c3po engines wit naaaawz! just count the frickin sheep...

magik_medicine
01-29-2004, 08:12 AM
Old Caravans, Dodge Shadows, Omnis, Old Probes, AE86, Regal T-Type. any others?

best mod sleeper- 1992 Camaro iroc with a 554 RWHP 88 vette engine

best stock sleeper- Cadilac seville STS, any year with a northstar will work, even wih their cosiderably bulky asses and 32 cow interior and a slushbox will pull 14.5s completely stock

magicweed
02-02-2004, 03:02 PM
i think the toyota cressida would be a hell of a sleeper
pump up the 7mgte it has to about 400hp and youd have one hell of a fast sedan

plus it looks like something my grandfather would drive

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