those damn SRT-4's

i was waiting at an intersection to pull out on the highway a few days ago and this guy in a new dodge neon SRT-4 stops (with a whole bunch of cars behind him) and waves to me to pull out. I knew what he wanted me to do so I got on it up to about 90 mph. I knew right from the start that I didn't have a chance but I didn't think those things were THAT fast. That guys was so close to my ass and I never gained an inch on him. He passed me after a while and just took off. I think he might have had the mopar stage one kit on it but I don't know for sure. Well I'm gonna borrow my friends WRX in a few days and try to find the guy for a re-match. As long as it's dry out he'll still win but if it's raining the AWD will eat up his FWD screamer. Unfortunatly my friend wrecked his first 300 HP WRX and the one he got is still stock cause his old one would have eaten the SRT-4 alive.

I agree those little cars are fast, I love them IO want one so bad, I saw 2 of them run on friday at the track the first guy was a really shitty driver, when the light went green he sat there like he wasn't paying attention then hebogged the car, he pulled like 15.5 the second guy did MUCH better he pulled a 13.99, and at this elevation that is awesome, I have no idea what he had done to his car, if anything.

They are fast when it comes to power-to-weight ratio and they are relatively inexpensive for what you get. However, I don't like the design of Neons.

yeah.. but they still are just dodge neons... :grinno:

Actually, for stock 4 cylinders, Neons are pretty quick. My first car was a '95 Dodge Neon, and I raced my friend's '91 Honda Prelude (non v-tec), it was a stick, mine an automatic, and I won. I also raced my friend's Ford Contour (it was an automatic), beat that, and my friend's '90 Mustang (4 cylinder, and a stick, but still a win:). I also raced my friends 350 Chevy (not sure what model or anything, but it's automatic), we raced from a 20 punch, and I was keeping up with him, on his bumper the whole time until we slowed down at about 90 or 95. Oh, and I raced my friend's '00 Ford ZX2, also an automatic, and beat him. And BTW, all of these cars were stock, except for my friend's 350 chevy, he had an aftermarket exhaust (dual exhaust).

yeah.. but they still are just dodge neons...

Yeah...who gives a fuck...its a big slow piece of american made plastic.

However, I do have to admit I like the SRT-4, 13's out of the box, for under 20k, hard to beat that...but any other neon... :gay:

Well, more like small, kind of quick, American made plastic...But, whatever.

More like who gives a shit, its turbo charged four cylinder american plastic pos and an s2000 can keep up with its non-turbo four cylinder. Sounds like honda knows how to make sports cars a lil better than dodge, and thats except the dodge vipers. Now those are fast.

More like who gives a shit, its turbo charged four cylinder american plastic pos and an s2000 can keep up with its non-turbo four cylinder. Sounds like honda knows how to make sports cars a lil better than dodge, and thats except the dodge vipers. Now those are fast.


ok, well lets see, take the difference in price of the two cars, apply that to the SRT-4 in performance parts, and watch it scare the s2000 back the garage with its tailpipe between its tires.

mdorty there is no way u did that good against all those cars...unless yours is like magical...my del sol w/ d16z6 with CAI smoked neons all the time..especially autos....

but either way...SRT-4's are pretty damn quick i must say...I raced a yellow one the other day with my new GSR motor and he beat me by a lil more than a cars length.....i cant wait for my turbo set up next summer.... :iceslolan

mdorty there is no way u did that good against all those cars...unless yours is like magical...my del sol w/ d16z6 with CAI smoked neons all the time..especially autos....

but either way...SRT-4's are pretty damn quick i must say...I raced a yellow one the other day with my new GSR motor and he beat me by a lil more than a cars length.....i cant wait for my turbo set up next summer.... :iceslolan

Actually, it all depends on the motor he had on his Neon. The 150HP DOHC motor automatically made any Neon it went into a 15-second car, especially since the TQ-curve on that motor is quite similar to my SE-R's SR20DE...meaning it's flat as hell.

There were the lightweight ACR and R/T versions, which were mid/low 15-second cars, but unknown to most, the quickest stock, N/A Neon was the Neon Highline 4-dr, with the DOHC option...it was actually the LIGHTEST Neon made...even lighter than the 'lightened' ACR (the ACR's extra-bracing and suspension tweaks to make it a 'Club Racer' probably brought it over the top).

I was just commenting, hondaracer. No need to be a prick. I thought I would just let everyone in on my knowledge of the car, since most people on this forum most likely have not driven one, seeing as its a Honda/Acura forum. '95 was the first year for Neons, and they didn't have any different trims or anything, just the basic 4 dour, perhaps a 2 door, I can't remember, but the engines are all the same. 132 hp.

And Venom, yes, there is a way I did that well...Nothing done to the car, completely stock. Maybe it was magical, it was the only neon I've ever driven before. I'm just telling you what I've experienced, I'm not trying to show off what I did in my dad's nine year old Dodge Neon...I always thought it was slow until I raced people, I realized it was kind of quick, for the engine size and hp output. But, Neons are very light cars.

alright guys i am about to admit something that i am not proud of... I was once a '96 neon driver :disappoin actually i'm driving my neon right now until i finish working on my teg

but seriously when i bought the car 3 or four years ago i thought it was great :disappoin and quick :disappoin . I installed an intake and exhaust lowered it, and believe it or not i could keep up with 94+ gs-r's from a rolling start(never tried from a stop). unfortuneately dodge's poor engineering during those years led to that car being slower than a one legged kid on a bycicle now. with the bolt ons the computer started throwing engine codes, and shit, 5spd tranny blew a hole right through the case and left the tranny fluid all over the high way. The car is just put together cheap, and it feels like it will fall aprt around you when driving.anyway to make a long story short even if they are kinda quick the fact is it is just a 10,000 dollar economy car and it won't stay quick for long...
did i mention that mine only had 70,000 miles on it...

as for the new srt-4 i have no idea I still have yet to see one...

Heh, I wouldn't think a Neon would have any part that was engineered to be able to handle more hp :grinno: But on my '95, it never had any aftermarket parts put on it, and it was never driven hard (except for the few times I raced with it), and it hasn't broken down once since my dad bought it in '95 (he bought it brand new). It was also well taken care of, though. Regular oil changes and all of the maintenance. But yeah, I imagine if my dad drove it hard all of the time and raced it alot, it probably wouldn't have lasted very long at all.

Oh, something funny I thought I'd mention :lol2: My friend just bought a '96 Neon, and it has an intake, exhaust, and a turbo. But wait, here comes the real funny part, those are all of the parts that are on it, no bov, no intercooler, no wastegate, no nothing. No upgraded engine parts, completely stock besides the cold air intake, exhaust, and turbo. This thing is a 5 speed, but it doesn't have a tach, and it doesn't even have a pressure gauge for the turbo :disappoin , I'm just waiting for the thing to blow up like a nuclear bomb :evillol:

haha thats funny, yeah mine didn't have a tach either, and it didn't even have a passenger side view mirror, I guess dodge made the second mirror an option :screwy: ...

but, you were keeping up with 94 gsrs, with intake and exhaust and im assuming 5 speed, and the gsr was stock. but an automatic stock neone must be slow as he!!. and you listed slow cars that you beat. even the chevy with a 350 and dual exhaust, probably an old 1 ton huh?

one more thing.

wouldnt anything, especially the superbly engineered neon, having intake, exhaust and a turbo wiht no fuel management, no intercooler, no BOV or wastegate have blown up on the drive home after buying it if the seller had just put it on before he bought it???


I bet he took a cheap turbo form a junkyard, bearings were froze, and he knew it wouldnt boost anyways so he just threw it under the hood to get extra cash when he sold it.

one more thing.

wouldnt anything, especially the superbly engineered neon, having intake, exhaust and a turbo wiht no fuel management, no intercooler, no BOV or wastegate have blown up on the drive home after buying it if the seller had just put it on before he bought it???


I bet he took a cheap turbo form a junkyard, bearings were froze, and he knew it wouldnt boost anyways so he just threw it under the hood to get extra cash when he sold it.

Yes w/o a waste gate the turbo would over boost. And you don't have CAI with turbos :rolleyes: I feel a little BS comming on :sly:

I was just listing cars that I had raced and beat, to show that they aren't the slowest car in the world. And as for my friend's neon with the turbo, all I know is what he told me...and what I saw under the hood. Actually, I don't think he has a cold air intake, just a scoop to catch air, but it isn't very big, and it isn't noticeable unless you pop the hood. I would think that it would've blown by now...he said he got a ticket for going 120 in it, so you'd think he would've had to at least go over 4k rpm's...and by then the turbo would (should) be kicked in...it would be pretty funny if they guy he bought it from just put it in there, but made sure it didn't actually do anything :lol: I want to race him, because he thinks it's so fast...I bet I'd win :loser:
Oh, and the only car I raced that I expected to lose to (besides the 350) was the Prelude, and that was just because it was a stick. I knew it didn't have a lot of power, being a Honda non-vtec. But I expected even a non-vtec Honda to be able to beat an automatic Dodge Neon. Maybe he just sucks at shifting...I've never ridden in a car with him before, so who knows. Like I said, I'm just telling you what I've experienced, I'm not trying to show off. I think if I was trying to show off I'd be talking about the new gsr I just bought and put a turbo on and blah blah blah...yeah :sunglasse

but you could be a dodge fan/honda hater and come on the honda forums to say that stock neons are quick and stuff like that, not saying you are but theres always a chance. and I did test drive 97 i think neon 2 door 5 speed, it had no tach, so I had no idea where the engine was at but it never cut fuel so i must not have been overrevving it, and I mean it was fairly quick, but I had drove a 97 civic LX as well, sedan 5 speed, I/H/E. It felt a little quicker than the neon, and the neon was stock, made me consider the neon cuz then wiht boltons it would be pretty quick, but then i remembered 2 things, dodge isnt the best quality and the "laugh at me I drive a neon" factor. so I didnt buy it.

Yeah, good point. But I'm not :smile: I plan on saving my money for a while so I can buy an 8k or so gsr, and have money left over to put stuff on it. I just bought a '92 BMW 318 is, and it was only $4800. It should last me a really long time, and I should be able to pay it off really quickly since I just got a new job that pays a really good amount.

cool, thats what im in the market for right now. a 3rd gen GSR. good choice :biggrin:

I am going to find a combvo of the cheapest/nicest one in the entire US and fly there with friends and drive it back. like 8k gets you nice stock ones here, 7k gets you lowered, I/H/E rims/tires, spoiler, and similar ot lower mileage on the east coast.

Yeah...who gives a fuck...its a big slow piece of american made plastic.

All I read was... http://home.earthlink.net/~lastyear/myweb6/blah.gif

More like who gives a shit, its turbo charged four cylinder american plastic pos and an s2000 can keep up with its non-turbo four cylinder. Sounds like honda knows how to make sports cars a lil better than dodge, and thats except the dodge vipers. Now those are fast.

Says alot about the S2K doesnt it, huh? A $30K+ Car keeping up with a $20k car? :smooch:


Excuses, Excuses... Its always hard to admit when one car is faster that people have to resort to childish actions. :disappoin




Im still waiting for my encounter with an SRT-4 :naughty:

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Says alot about the S2K doesnt it, huh? A $30K+ Car keeping up with a $20k car? :smooch:
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yeah but its a VERY nice 30k+ NA "HONDA" keeping up with a 20k dodge still nice looking car that is FI.

How fast does the stock '03 Mustang GT do the 1/4 mile? The SRT-4 does it in like 14 something...

SRT4's can dip into the high-high 13's.

How fast does the stock '03 Mustang GT do the 1/4 mile? The SRT-4 does it in like 14 something...
They generally run the same times as an Srt-4. Theres been some drivers that dip in the 13s with stock 99+ Mustang GTs just like theres SRT-4 drivers running high 13s as well. It all depends on the driver. In ideal conditions with "good" drivers both cars should run high 13s. The norm should run in the low to mid 14s :)

I was at New England Dragway tonight saw 2 SRT-4 neon. Both ran mid to low 14's. Very impressive considering the get out of the hole like absolute shit.

More like who gives a shit, its turbo charged four cylinder american plastic pos and an s2000 can keep up with its non-turbo four cylinder. Sounds like honda knows how to make sports cars a lil better than dodge, and thats except the dodge vipers. Now those are fast.

vipers aint that fast.. i downloaded a movie about streetracing on kazaa,, it was a civic hatchback vs a dodge viper, it was a 1/4 mile race ,, the civic won that race. at the end u can see that the viper was catching up but it wasnt enough

vipers aint that fast.. i downloaded a movie about streetracing on kazaa,, it was a civic hatchback vs a dodge viper, it was a 1/4 mile race ,, the civic won that race. at the end u can see that the viper was catching up but it wasnt enough

Oh please not that video agian..... A Viper lost to one Civic that the guy had put over $15,000 in engine work. Yes and now all of a sudden Vipers are slow and all Civics can beat them cause of that 1 video.

vipers aint that fast.. i downloaded a movie about streetracing on kazaa,, it was a civic hatchback vs a dodge viper, it was a 1/4 mile race ,, the civic won that race. at the end u can see that the viper was catching up but it wasnt enough
:worshippy Now Ive been shown the light... WTF was wrong with me thinking Vipers were fast? All hail the Killer of Vipers, TeH CiVik!111 :worshippy

:screwy:

vipers aint that fast.. i downloaded a movie about streetracing on kazaa,, it was a civic hatchback vs a dodge viper, it was a 1/4 mile race ,, the civic won that race. at the end u can see that the viper was catching up but it wasnt enough

I would watch what you call slow around these parts, mang. Especially with your 2002 Civic EX.

If you had a car that can do better than a 12.0 quarter, then I can see where you can call a Viper slow but, saying that while driving a 16-second 'screamer' well, that's just stupid.

Hell, you can't even say that you'd beat him around the corners...you just have no room to talk...

Oh please not that video agian..... A Viper lost to one Civic that the guy had put over $15,000 in engine work. Yes and now all of a sudden Vipers are slow and all Civics can beat them cause of that 1 video.

i think vipers and muscle american cars are way too heavy cars which is bad for 1/4 mile racing.. they might be better on high ways ,, civics are light weight which is great for high boost forced induction .. my younger bother carlos has a 98 civic ex the mods he has done are a 200hp+drag turbo kit from overboost.com that he put on himself ,, also he has a gr eddy exhaust system ,injen cold air intake system, 50-75hp shot of nos and all kinds of sh it under that hood .. he got all that for almost 8000 dollars, he bought the car like 10 months ago for 7900 dollars... on the street racing events we have hea in hartford during summer time.. one nite carlos ate a vette for like half a car.. a 16 000 dollar vehicle or better yet a 4cyl car ate an american muscle with a v10 or v12 i guess.. thats why i think imports are better .. if u guys are lookin' for some fast and affordable cars, buy an import and hook it up..

I would watch what you call slow around these parts, mang. Especially with your 2002 Civic EX.

If you had a car that can do better than a 12.0 quarter, then I can see where you can call a Viper slow but, saying that while driving a 16-second 'screamer' well, that's just stupid.

Hell, you can't even say that you'd beat him around the corners...you just have no room to talk...

yo carnutt last month i called the toll free number of overboost.com looking for a200hp+ or 300hp+ turbo kit or more if possible.. they told me it hasnt been realeased yet.. i cant wait for that turbo kit to be released, so far i have an exhaust system a cold air intake lets see how i do after i put that turbo charger..and nos system on my car..

if anybody knows when a turbo kit is gonna be available for an 02 civic ex vtec let me know please

ok, vettes arent v10's 12's they are v8's. the viper is the v10. and american musclecars are heavy, but also have huge displacement AND RWD which is a big plus for drag racing, you can get all the power you want to the front wheels but it isnt as easy to make em hook up. and you can get a 94+GT for the price he bought his civic for and the same amount of cash he put into his civic you could put into the GT and stomp on that civic. I am not saying that as a domestic fan, I am more of an import guy myself but I am not against domestics at all, I like the style of the mustang but having owned one of fords "quality" mustangs, I dont think ill own another ford for a long time, unless i find a nice deal on a cobra or something.

my younger bother carlos has a 98 civic ex the mods he has done are a 200hp+drag turbo kit from overboost.com that he put on himself ,, also he has a gr eddy exhaust system ,injen cold air intake system, 50-75hp shot of nos and all kinds of sh it under that hood

Listen here NooB.

I doubt you're little Civic EX with a turbo slapped onto your motor will take out a Corvette... I'll explain why I think this from your post above... how can you have a Turbo kit and CAI from Injen? The Drag kit comes with a K&N filter for the Turbo...

You're statement says to me you're a 14 year old kid who knows only what he see's in bad movies and gets lists of parts out of catalogs.

Also, you say you've got NOS... where did your brother use the spray? Meaning, What gears does he use it?

Why don't you give us a complete list of what was done to your car with pictures of it as well?

he got all that for almost 8000 dollars, he bought the car like 10 months ago for 7900 dollars... on the street racing events we have hea in hartford during summer time.. one nite carlos ate a vette for like half a car.. a 16 000 dollar

But, I'm glad you spent $16,000 on your car, makes me happy that i've only spent about $7,000 on my car total. Knowing that you've got a cocky attitude and think that you'll beat me is funny. All I can say is stage it up. Bring lots of cash.

i think vipers and muscle american cars are way too heavy cars which is bad for 1/4 mile racing.. they might be better on high ways ,, civics are light weight which is great for high boost forced induction

Have you ever been to the track Son? Have you ever noticed that 90% of the fastest cars at the track are RWD and they're usually some sort of Muslce car? Like a Corvette, or a Camaro...? You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

Carrrnuttt, Remember that Civic EX at your buddies shop? what did it run after it got the Drag kit installed?

I didnt even notice the turbo and INJEN CAI :grinno:

Carrrnuttt, Remember that Civic EX at your buddies shop? what did it run after it got the Drag kit installed?

Yep...PROFESSIONALLY installed complete DRAG turbo-kit, on a '00 Civic EX. He ran it at the track on street-tires, and ran a 14.8 on street-tires. Maybe it had more, but the FWD drive-train just wouldn't hook-up...but it was lighter than the disadvantaged domestic V8's...so it should've went faster? :rolleyes:

Anyhow...yah, what gear does your "brother" hit the juice at? I'd like to know...you know, for future reference? :uhoh:

Also, we have quite a few Civic owners in here from CT in general...and they seemed to know about each other pretty well. Care to describe your "bro's" car? I'm sure they would've heard of this "Corvette-beating-Civic" in such a small scene...right? Better yet, post pictures...not unless your fictional "brother" used-up all your family's money that you can't buy a camera anymore?

I'm sure they would've heard of this "Corvette-beating-Civic" in such a small scene...right? Better yet, post pictures...not unless your fictional "brother" used-up all your family's money that you can't buy a camera anymore?


hahahahahahaa

Damn, jose22_hartford, I wish I could just spend $8k to just run high 14s :worshippy

Too bad I do better than that stock :( :shakehead

Hmm, let's see how much it takes to make a civic a nice street burner.
Welp, this is an estimate on what I've spent so far. So much for my savings on a 2003 cobra. Just didn't have the money to throw out 35k at one time on a car. This one is paid for! It's all mine and not the banks.

1998 civic EX 5 speed with 87k mile. $6000 Good deal on it.
Wings west body kit. $800
Paint and body work $1000
Edelbrock Turbo Kit $3100
Spec stage 3 clutch $310
Firdanza flywheel $275
Wheels/tires $900 Chromes :D hehe dare to be different
Tint $140
Guage pod with A/F guage, Oil pressure$150
Custom instrument cluster $80
Apexi World sport exhaust $400
Water pump, tensioner, timing belt $80 Off ebay
Zex dry N20 kit with purge kit $550
Optimum battery $100
Nology spark plug wires $120
AEM fuel rail,FPR, and filter $250-300 I forget
Unorthodox pully set $275
Strut bar $125
Tein Super sport suspension kit $900
Walboro 255lph fuel pump $100
Powerstop slotted rotors $130
AEM HP brake pads $50
CK headlamp/ tail lamps $500
damn extra bulbs $35
Alpine 9815 Head unit $400 Insurance too.
Alpine R 6 1/2 front 6X9 rear $400 Insurance:)
Cometic Head gasket $120
ARP headstuds $110

Few other things like mobile one oil and so forth but this comes out to $17,400.

So, for 17.5k I purchased a nice reliable little street setup that gets 30mpg when I drive normal and 26 when I don't. It's nothing that will run 10's at the drag strip but it's just a fun car to drive around. Maybe another 5 grand into the motor and some slicks then it'll hold it's own at the drag strip :D So for 22k I could have an easy 12 second car.

Better gas mileage
Much much cheaper insurance
cheaper property tax.
That's why I built up a civic
.

but half of that 15k invested wasnt for speed, it was for added weight. Im not saying it was dumb cuz i like my car to look good as well as be fast, but for 17k youd be seeing 12's already if all you were going for was speed.

Hmm, let's see how much it takes to make a civic a nice street burner.
Welp, this is an estimate on what I've spent so far. So much for my savings on a 2003 cobra. Just didn't have the money to throw out 35k at one time on a car. This one is paid for! It's all mine and not the banks.

1998 civic EX 5 speed with 87k mile. $6000 Good deal on it.
Wings west body kit. $800
Paint and body work $1000
Edelbrock Turbo Kit $3100
Spec stage 3 clutch $310
Firdanza flywheel $275
Wheels/tires $900 Chromes :D hehe dare to be different
Tint $140
Guage pod with A/F guage, Oil pressure$150
Custom instrument cluster $80
Apexi World sport exhaust $400
Water pump, tensioner, timing belt $80 Off ebay
Zex dry N20 kit with purge kit $550
Optimum battery $100
Nology spark plug wires $120
AEM fuel rail,FPR, and filter $250-300 I forget
Unorthodox pully set $275
Strut bar $125
Tein Super sport suspension kit $900
Walboro 255lph fuel pump $100
Powerstop slotted rotors $130
AEM HP brake pads $50
CK headlamp/ tail lamps $500
damn extra bulbs $35
Alpine 9815 Head unit $400 Insurance too.
Alpine R 6 1/2 front 6X9 rear $400 Insurance:)
Cometic Head gasket $120
ARP headstuds $110

Few other things like mobile one oil and so forth but this comes out to $17,400.

So, for 17.5k I purchased a nice reliable little street setup that gets 30mpg when I drive normal and 26 when I don't. It's nothing that will run 10's at the drag strip but it's just a fun car to drive around. Maybe another 5 grand into the motor and some slicks then it'll hold it's own at the drag strip :D So for 22k I could have an easy 12 second car.

Better gas mileage
Much much cheaper insurance
cheaper property tax.
That's why I built up a civic
.

How's this:

1992 Sentra SE-R: 1,800 dollars (what mine cost...some have been found on EBay for 1,000)

SR20DE: came with car

Stamped-steel turbo rods: came with car

SR20DET crank (turbo app): came with car

Close-ratio five speed with LSD: came with car

SR20DET turbo manifold with the stock T28 that came with it: 500 dollars (my cost)

Supporting mods (fuel, engine management, etc.): 1,000 dollars

Ability to hold 14psi reliably on a daily basis: came with car

Sleeper status: came with car

12's-13's in a car you spent less than 3,000 dollars on: PRICELESS

have you run the SER since you boosted it?

have you run the SER since you boosted it?

LOL...I wish...

I was just illustrating above that his 22,000-dollar figure for his 12-second Civic is NOT anywhere cheap.

No boost yet, man. As cheap as it may be, I'm pretty poor until after I graduate college next May. When I get it done though, AF will be the first to know:).

BTW, $21,000 gets you this: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1253683#post1253683

oh, well, yeah Id like one of them neons, not my favorite looking cars but I dont think they are too bad, but with that much power stock, Id go for one. but I am HOPEFULLY getting this 94 teg I found with the 99 front end conversion, ITR lip and brand new black paint job and GSR rims, lowered, and a boosted B20, I havent gotten to talk to the guy but the answering machine is a shop called r and r racing down in southern cali so I hope it will all be installed cleanly/tuned properly.

Hmm, let's see how much it takes to make a civic a nice street burner.
Welp, this is an estimate on what I've spent so far. So much for my savings on a 2003 cobra. Just didn't have the money to throw out 35k at one time on a car. This one is paid for! It's all mine and not the banks.

1998 civic EX 5 speed with 87k mile. $6000 Good deal on it.
Wings west body kit. $800
Paint and body work $1000
Edelbrock Turbo Kit $3100
Spec stage 3 clutch $310
Firdanza flywheel $275
Wheels/tires $900 Chromes :D hehe dare to be different
Tint $140
Guage pod with A/F guage, Oil pressure$150
Custom instrument cluster $80
Apexi World sport exhaust $400
Water pump, tensioner, timing belt $80 Off ebay
Zex dry N20 kit with purge kit $550
Optimum battery $100
Nology spark plug wires $120
AEM fuel rail,FPR, and filter $250-300 I forget
Unorthodox pully set $275
Strut bar $125
Tein Super sport suspension kit $900
Walboro 255lph fuel pump $100
Powerstop slotted rotors $130
AEM HP brake pads $50
CK headlamp/ tail lamps $500
damn extra bulbs $35
Alpine 9815 Head unit $400 Insurance too.
Alpine R 6 1/2 front 6X9 rear $400 Insurance:)
Cometic Head gasket $120
ARP headstuds $110

Few other things like mobile one oil and so forth but this comes out to $17,400.

So, for 17.5k I purchased a nice reliable little street setup that gets 30mpg when I drive normal and 26 when I don't. It's nothing that will run 10's at the drag strip but it's just a fun car to drive around. Maybe another 5 grand into the motor and some slicks then it'll hold it's own at the drag strip :D So for 22k I could have an easy 12 second car.

Better gas mileage
Much much cheaper insurance
cheaper property tax.
That's why I built up a civic
.

OK let me get this right, you are running a DRY Zex nitrous kit on a boosted car? WTF is wrong with you? Do you really have that or are you b.sing alittle? B/c dry nitrous kits and turbos don't mix at all!

did anyone else read the story about the people that rented a neon from a car rental place then rigged it with a temporary nitrous kit? they had a big bottle strapped into the back seatbelt and ran the nozzle right into the air box, the button to hit for the nitrous was the horn :naughty: basically they rented the car, rigged it up and took it to the drag strip... they kept running higher and higher amounts of nitrous until it finally blew up... somewhere in the 9 second quarter mile range. then they took the nitrous off and took it back to the rental place and acted like they didn't know what happened :evillol:

if anyone knows the link to the webpage that write up is on I would love to have it again!!!

found it!!! I was way off on the 9 seconds though... sorry!

here is the link

http://www.ag.auburn.edu/users/gparmer/articles/neon/

Give it a read... lol :grinno:

sounds kinda fishy but would be funy as hell to be there when they returned it(if you knew what was going on when you saw it) but would a neon even make it 1/4 of a mile ONCE with the size of a shot it would take to hit 9's

The dry nitros kit works extremely well with the Edelbrock turbo setup. Why is that? Because how that turbo kit works. Dry kits use your stock FPR to raise the amount of fuel shooting in with the N2O. The Edelbrock doesn't touch the stock fpr system. It only controls the secondary injectors when the Elink contoller starts to read boost. Therefore, you'll get the right amount of fuel corresponding to the shot of N2O your using. A 25 shot really is great with the turbo application. No such thing as lagging off the line.

How's this:

1992 Sentra SE-R: 1,800 dollars (what mine cost...some have been found on EBay for 1,000)

SR20DE: came with car

Stamped-steel turbo rods: came with car

SR20DET crank (turbo app): came with car

Close-ratio five speed with LSD: came with car

SR20DET turbo manifold with the stock T28 that came with it: 500 dollars (my cost)

Supporting mods (fuel, engine management, etc.): 1,000 dollars

Ability to hold 14psi reliably on a daily basis: came with car

Sleeper status: came with car

12's-13's in a car you spent less than 3,000 dollars on: PRICELESS

to boost a sr20 it's closer to 2,500 to turbo, 3,000 to turbo it perfectly (if you wanted higher than stock boost)
jwt ecu
act clutch
370 cc injectors
piping for intercooler
intercooler
boost management system
misc. oil supply parts
bov, i know i'm forgetting some other stuff.
no way you get into the 12's without 3-4 grand into the car
cheap way for an se-r to boost would be a redtop bbdet transplant with stock tmic, and jwt ecu. still about 2300-2500, but it's plug and play, instead of having to piece together a kit for the usdm sr20de.

The dry nitros kit works extremely well with the Edelbrock turbo setup. Why is that? Because how that turbo kit works. Dry kits use your stock FPR to raise the amount of fuel shooting in with the N2O. The Edelbrock doesn't touch the stock fpr system. It only controls the secondary injectors when the Elink contoller starts to read boost. Therefore, you'll get the right amount of fuel corresponding to the shot of N2O your using. A 25 shot really is great with the turbo application. No such thing as lagging off the line.

Are you using it under boost or just to spool the turbo? And I know how dry nitrous kits work, I ve been around nitrous for a long time now. I fyou are using it under boost then you can kiss the motor good bye soon!

to boost a sr20 it's closer to 2,500 to turbo, 3,000 to turbo it perfectly (if you wanted higher than stock boost)
jwt ecu
act clutch
370 cc injectors
piping for intercooler
intercooler
boost management system
misc. oil supply parts
bov, i know i'm forgetting some other stuff.
no way you get into the 12's without 3-4 grand into the car
cheap way for an se-r to boost would be a redtop bbdet transplant with stock tmic, and jwt ecu. still about 2300-2500, but it's plug and play, instead of having to piece together a kit for the usdm sr20de.

My statement is sort of an exaggeration but isn't. I was trying to illustrate the point that his 22,000-dollar Civic is NOT a performance bargain, by any means.

I say it's not an exaggeration, because I have the advantage of being able to purchase things at shop/wholesale price, directly from Japan. My friend's shop supplies all the other local small shops with JDM engines, parts, and even whole cars. I will be paying close to those prices when I have that extra cash to start the project, although, instead of just turbo-charging the stock motor...like I've said before...there is still that red-topped GTi-R motor waiting for me for a mere 1,400-dollars (not including what my friend will charge me for installing it, of course).

My statement is sort of an exaggeration but isn't. I was trying to illustrate the point that his 22,000-dollar Civic is NOT a performance bargain, by any means.

I say it's not an exaggeration, because I have the advantage of being able to purchase things at shop/wholesale price, directly from Japan. My friend's shop supplies all the other local small shops with JDM engines, parts, and even whole cars. I will be paying close to those prices when I have that extra cash to start the project, although, instead of just turbo-charging the stock motor...like I've said before...there is still that red-topped GTi-R motor waiting for me for a mere 1,400-dollars (not including what my friend will charge me for installing it, of course).
yeah 22,000 is alot of money, i haven't even spent half of that, and at the risk of sounding like an asshole if i DID put 22 grand in my car i'd be pullin some 10 second slips or better.

Notice my buddys new SRT-4 next to my black civic. This is on the way back from Nopi. He normally runs mid 14's in the 1/4 and no his isn't faster than mine. Also, mine is actually cheaper at 17k; plus it's not a dodge. I had a 91 Daytona ES with 20k miles and it blew the head gasket 3 times in 1 vacation trip. After I got to the destination and on the 4th blown head gasket, Dodge finally replaced both heads on the car. Same trip my altenator goes out and it cost 380 bucks for a new one. That was my first and last Dodge.

http://bas-co.com/jade/images/dagang.jpg


http://www.cardomain.com/id/98civicrider

as a side note, your car looks a million times better than the SRT-4

I'm just not feelin the style on those things

If the Elink monitors boost and adds extra fuel, it still wouldnt work for N2O would it, because when you spray, it isnt read as boost at all is it?

Actually, for stock 4 cylinders, Neons are pretty quick. My first car was a '95 Dodge Neon, and I raced my friend's '91 Honda Prelude (non v-tec), it was a stick, mine an automatic, and I won. I also raced my friend's Ford Contour (it was an automatic), beat that, and my friend's '90 Mustang (4 cylinder, and a stick, but still a win:). I also raced my friends 350 Chevy (not sure what model or anything, but it's automatic), we raced from a 20 punch, and I was keeping up with him, on his bumper the whole time until we slowed down at about 90 or 95. Oh, and I raced my friend's '00 Ford ZX2, also an automatic, and beat him. And BTW, all of these cars were stock, except for my friend's 350 chevy, he had an aftermarket exhaust (dual exhaust).

Well, I've been in a stock 4-cyl Neon. The power-to-weight ratio is better than VW Golf and Jetta III GLs and they cost less. However, the first generation Neons has nasty problems. I was in a modified second generation Neon and it was pretty quick with two people in the car compared to other 4 cyl cars. I don't like the appearance of the headlights... Dodge's idea of making a happy looking car.