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bmoney153
09-13-2003, 02:46 AM
does anyone think he will return today? according to the 7 theory, today is the day for his return, september 13th 2003. I am skeptical, but hopeful that he will return. what do you all think?

-The Stig-
09-13-2003, 02:49 AM
whats the 7 theory?

HogieGT-R
09-13-2003, 02:50 AM
:eek7: :sly: :eek7: :sly: :eek7: :sly: :eek7: :sly:

Jimster
09-13-2003, 02:58 AM
Who gives a fuck? :screwy:

SkYLiNeFrEaK
09-13-2003, 02:58 AM
Anyways,

Umm, the 7 day theory, nobody knows about it around here except a few of us Bmoney, sadly those 2 memebers that know about it do not post anymore. But anyways...Im skeptical too, but no one here has any idea what you are talking about because MOST of the people here are Anti rap.... :headshake :headshake :headshake :headshake :headshake




Edit: Jimmy STFU n00b! :eek: :rofl:


































*waits for yogs to come in here with his pathetic Anti rap comments*

-The Stig-
09-13-2003, 03:06 AM
That doesn't answer my question... whats the 7 theory?

Enlighten us Non-Rap lovers what your theory is on 2pac.

SkYLiNeFrEaK
09-13-2003, 04:25 AM
Its not his 7 day theory, its some that were made up by thousands of people after he had died.

Theres wayyy to many things involved with his death and ppl, actually made several theories about the day he died, and his age and stuff like that. Its on the web, do a search, if your to lazy, i will do it for you.


Edit: Here is all you need to know about the 7 day theory

http://twtr.8m.com/7day.htm

integra818
09-13-2003, 04:48 AM
OK, here's how it went..tupac was shot and he died 7 days later and theres some religios conection there but I don't know what it is...and he's supposed to be resurected or something

A lot of people say he faked his death and he's staying on the downlow for 7 years becasue suposedly if you don't comit a crime for 7 years, your criminal record is clear, or some rubbish like that.

The rapper 'Snoop Dogg' mentioned something about having a big suprise for everyone soon, and everybody is waiing for tupac to show up on stage or something...I dunno.

He was anounced dead, but no one has ever seen his dead body. He supposely had his ashes scattered in the ocean.

:dunno:

I'm pretty confused with the whole tupac story, since I don't really follow what happens in the rap world, so don't quote me on anything I said :smile:

TheNotoriousMogg
09-13-2003, 04:58 AM
I think it would be cool, but I am not banking on him coming back

Neutrino
09-13-2003, 05:33 AM
do you guys think he'll pick up Elvis on the way too?











:grinyes:

SkYLiNeFrEaK
09-13-2003, 06:32 AM
*Note to sarcastic posters*



Please keep your sarcasm to a Minimum.



thank you

drive through :headshake

Jimster
09-13-2003, 07:02 AM
*Note to sarcastic posters*



Please keep your sarcasm to a Minimum.



thank you

drive through :headshake



No thanks hold the fries :rofl: :shakehead

Neutrino
09-13-2003, 07:46 AM
*Note to sarcastic posters*



Please keep your sarcasm to a Minimum.



thank you

drive through :headshake

me sarcastic.........nooooooo


i was just thinking that is he is coming back the least he could do is pick up elvis on the way back...it would be rude otherwise








:wink:

esp
09-13-2003, 09:08 AM
I think it would be cool, but I am not banking on him coming back


ya it would be cool,


there is also the fact that he was murdered, and likey supposedly did an autopsy and then burried him like 2 days later. so tell me how gets burried 2 days after they are murdered? usually isnt there some sort of investigation before they can bury him.


to tell u the truth i enjoy rap, and i hope he comes back, but there are a lot of reasons that he could not be dead, like the fact the the car he was in was shot 13 times or so and Suge Night wasnt hit once? well enough with the therorys and lets just see what happens

Amish_kid
09-13-2003, 09:21 AM
.... but no one has ever seen his dead body. He supposely had his ashes scattered in the ocean.


I've seen the pictures of the autopsy it really was him, I remember them being on rotten.com I'm not too sure if they are still there.

esp
09-13-2003, 09:30 AM
I've seen the pictures of the autopsy it really was him, I remember them being on rotten.com I'm not too sure if they are still there.


yep i to have seen the pics, but everyone says that it is photoshopped

Amish_kid
09-13-2003, 09:34 AM
yep i to have seen the pics, but everyone says that it is photoshopped

Very sad to people who beleive he really is coming back, plus I don't think a Photoshopped pic from 7 years ago would look that real.

esp
09-13-2003, 09:36 AM
Very sad to people who beleive he really is coming back, plus I don't think a Photoshopped pic from 7 years ago would look that real.


yea thats true, but think of all the records he would sell, if he did come back, i personally think that it would be cool if he did, but i am a tupac fan and i enjoy his music, plus that would make for some cool colaborations

Graphik Styles
09-13-2003, 09:59 AM
at school i told my friends this, and they said that he wouldnt come back. And im a big fan of tu-pac and all, but i dont think he will come back. I think that theres maybe a 20% chance he'll come back, and a 80% chance he wont. But im gonna say he is coming back just because i am a fan of his.

esp
09-13-2003, 10:02 AM
at school i told my friends this, and they said that he wouldnt come back. And im a big fan of tu-pac and all, but i dont think he will come back. I think that theres maybe a 20% chance he'll come back, and a 80% chance he wont. But im gonna say he is coming back just because i am a fan of his.


same here, i think that it would be sweet if he did come back, and everyone would be like woaa, and wonder where he has been hiding for 7 years. But like u said it is unlikely, however it would be cool

Neutrino
09-13-2003, 10:59 AM
Wow i've just done some research and its clead that 2pac was an alien and he was shot by a rival alien gang.....those darn east hemisphere martians.....bunch of thughs i tell you

Shiftlock
09-13-2003, 11:39 AM
I just got the latest info,according to the Ceo of Decease records BUddy Holly,Tupac will be releasing a cd later this year.Their will be guest appearences by Elvis,Jonny Cash,Big Pun,Jam Master Jay,John Lennon,Bob Marley,and a few other guests.The record is being produced by Jam Master Jay,and the hit song will be hitting radios later this week.It is called Dead Mothafu**az by Tupac ft Elvis,and the second track off of the album will be called Accept The Death ft Elvis and Jam Master Jay,with the recently passed Johnny Cash singing the chorus.The album is expected to be the greatest selling album ever,so look out for it.Their is also some secret guest appearences.

TexasF355F1
09-13-2003, 11:41 AM
First off, let me say I am a 2Pac fan. The 7 Day Theory is an interesting one, and while I'd like to believe it I have trouble doing so. It just doesn't seem feasible(sp?). ANyways, my friend had a book about 2Pac with those autopsy photo's and they didn't necessarily looked photoshopped, but they didn't look real to me. Just something about it. I think it would be cool if he was alive and did return to do some songs with Eminem/50 Cent/Dr. Dre/ and Snoop. I doubt a return so therefore R.I.P. 2Pac and everyone will continue to embrace his old and new music just as if he were still here. (**Tips 40**)

Amish_kid
09-13-2003, 11:58 AM
I just got the latest info,according to the Ceo of Decease records BUddy Holly,Tupac will be releasing a cd later this year.Their will be guest appearences by Elvis,Jonny Cash,Big Pun,Jam Master Jay,John Lennon,Bob Marley,and a few other guests.The record is being produced by Jam Master Jay,and the hit song will be hitting radios later this week.It is called Dead Mothafu**az by Tupac ft Elvis,and the second track off of the album will be called Accept The Death ft Elvis and Jam Master Jay,with the recently passed Johnny Cash singing the chorus.The album is expected to be the greatest selling album ever,so look out for it.Their is also some secret guest appearences.


Show some respect you asshole, he just died yesterday. He had more of an influence on music than any rapper will ever have.

TexasF355F1
09-13-2003, 12:05 PM
Show some respect you asshole, he just died yesterday. He had more of an influence on music than any rapper will ever have.
W3RD! How can anyone have the balls to mock the dead?

rsxer45
09-13-2003, 12:05 PM
to tell u the truth i enjoy rap, and i hope he comes back, but there are a lot of reasons that he could not be dead, like the fact the the car he was in was shot 13 times or so and Suge Night wasnt hit once? well enough with the therorys and lets just see what happens

I thought the reason Suge wasn't shot was because it was Suge Knight himself who orchestrated the hit. Supposedly, 2pac was planning to leave Death Row Records and Suge Knight owed him millions of dollars in royalties.

All the resurrection theories just don't make sense. Sure, there are some coincidencences but why would tupac go into hiding while in was in his prime, racking in the big bucks. Talk about :screwy:.

esp
09-13-2003, 12:15 PM
I thought the reason Suge wasn't shot was because it was Suge Knight himself who orchestrated the hit. Supposedly, 2pac was planning to leave Death Row Records and Suge Knight owed him millions of dollars in royalties.

All the resurrection theories just don't make sense. Sure, there are some coincidencences but why would tupac go into hiding while in was in his prime, racking in the big bucks. Talk about :screwy:.

true if suge orchestrated it, but how can a car get shot 13-14 times and suge not even get grased by one bullet? cause tupac got hit like 9 times or something, and suge didnt get touched? wtf is up with that.

benchi44
09-13-2003, 12:22 PM
if you look at the autopsy picture theres no thug life tattoo,or his tattoo with a ak that says 50 niggaz,kindof odd,and in his video for i think hail mary,not really sure,but the time on the clock is the exact time he died in real life,4:03

benchi44
09-13-2003, 12:26 PM
ohh i was wrong the 4:03 on the clock was in the video for i wonder if heavens got a ghetto

esp
09-13-2003, 12:33 PM
yep there are many reasons to say he is alive, like the fact that one of the videos was made in like 92 or something and he is clearly driving a 94 bmw. i think that might be the same video u were talken about, and if u listen to some of the songs on his latest cd, like the first intro, talks about the question how is tupac still making songs that relate to life now. listen to it if u havent very good. its on the newest cd better days, and it is on the first cd first song. interesting


perhaps this thread should be in philosophizing but i think it will get better traffic in OT

Shiftlock
09-13-2003, 12:52 PM
W3RD! How can anyone have the balls to mock the dead?

Hmmm....I'm not the only one,lots of comedians do it as well,it's just light hearted and get's straight to the point.Some people have a hard time swallowing facts,but it is the truth.My whole point was that people need to accept death,it sucks,but no theories can change that.

freakray
09-13-2003, 01:44 PM
do you guys think he'll pick up Elvis on the way too?



And then Elvis and Eminem can do a duet :lol:

TexasF355F1
09-13-2003, 02:53 PM
Hmmm....I'm not the only one,lots of comedians do it as well,it's just light hearted and get's straight to the point.Some people have a hard time swallowing facts,but it is the truth.My whole point was that people need to accept death,it sucks,but no theories can change that.
I know comedians do it, I just thought you were talkin' shit. Theres some people that get on here and disrespect so I wasn't sure. My bad.

tazdev
09-13-2003, 06:39 PM
hes dead hes not coming back and for that we are all truely gratefull

2strokebloke
09-13-2003, 09:22 PM
Maybe I'm just a tad crazy, but usually (IMHO) dead people remain dead. Besides, if he did come back to life, somebody'd just shoot him again anyway(I know I would - I mean it'd be pretty freaky to see a zombie.)
Maybe Amelia Earheart will fly him back to us along with the Lindberg baby and DB Cooper. And ah heck, maybe even Andy Kaufman (who faked his own death, and should be coming back any month now - everybody knows that.)

integra818
09-13-2003, 09:27 PM
I've seen the pictures of the autopsy it really was him, I remember them being on rotten.com I'm not too sure if they are still there.

You actually think that's him??? Why is he facing the other way??? It's not him man, it could be some black guy with fake tatoos and his body could look just like Tupacs.

grimmy
09-13-2003, 09:47 PM
look if he faked his own death, he did it to get out of the industry. he would not come back, its to risky. besides he might not even be able to survive in the industry anymore.

Toksin
09-14-2003, 07:28 AM
He's dead.

Deceased.

Non living.

INERT.

He ain't coming back.



BTW Shiftlock, fucking bad taste.

taranaki
09-14-2003, 07:59 AM
perhaps this thread should be in philosophizing but i think it will get better traffic in OT

You can't be serious.This is not philosophy,this is a mixture of wishful thinking and recording industry hype.

Hopefully now the much-touted 'return date' has passed without any magnificent ressurection,perhaps even the diehard conspiracy theorists will start to accept that Tupac is dead,and won't be coming back.


Not that I care,he wasn't even a musician,he was a rapper. :2cents:

YogsVR4
09-14-2003, 09:27 AM
*waits for yogs to come in here with his pathetic Anti rap comments*

My comments are never pathetic. :thefinger

I've never heard of the 7 theory. I'm sure its been created by the same people who think the moon landings were fake.

If he comes back then joyous occasion for those who give a rats ass and we'll just wait for him to be killed again. I don't wish rappers to die, but its comical with what happens after they do.

Kerbie
09-14-2003, 10:26 AM
Most of you guys aren't getting the theory right. i know it wasn't really explained very well so here goes:

Before tupac died, he had been reading a book called the "the seven day theory" written by someone name Mcaveli(sp?).
Right before he died he changed his rap name to Makaveli and an album was released under that name 9 months after he death.
In many of his videos and albums there is many refferences to the number 7.
Tupac fortold his death in many of his songs, and even his movies.

As for the autopsy, there was alot of controversy over that picture. i remeber reading that it had been confirmed a fake and the woman that published it had been sued or something. i dont know where to find that now.
The pic was missing several of 2pacs recent tatoos, as mentioned in this thread.


For a long time i thought, maybe, just maybe it would be true. now im skepticle. it would be really hard to go into hiding and not be seen for 7 years. i know everyone thinks that he is dead and all, but how can you not get seen, or have any trace. What about bank records? You cant survive without money. etc.

Even though i think its just hope from a few hardcores, i dont believe that the theory should be bashed. There are many reasons why people believe that he may come back. Who are you to say what they should think?
If you dont have anything to contribute, dont post anything. No one here wants to hear about an elvis and tupac album.
Elvis is dead. Tupac never had an autopsy, and his killer was never found. There is potential for such an elaborate hoax. albeit its not very likely.

Neutrino
09-14-2003, 11:13 AM
I'll tell you what gives us the right to mock.....common sense.




have you guys even think about what would happen if he would come and say:Yes i fakes my death.....he would be arested for fraud....

and if that would not happen then (and there is no maybe here) he would go to prison for tax evasion....IRS doesn't forgive anyone

taranaki
09-14-2003, 04:28 PM
I'm getting MAJOR deja-vu with this thread. :disappoin

We've had the topic on AF more than once,and it has always come back to the 'magic date',the Holy Grail of all Tupac Is Alive followers.Well the date has passed,and no Tupac.Time to face up to facts.
1/Not everything thatyou read on fansites is true
2/Tupac is dead.
3/He's not coming back.Ever.

Anybody who persists with the 'yeah,but the photos,the autopsy,the blah blah blah'afterhe failed to appear on the alleged 'magic date' is only showing how gullible and stupid they are.He's dead,get over it.For most of the world's population,he was,and is,totally fuckin' irrelevant.

grimmy
09-14-2003, 05:43 PM
:rolleyes: well, you obviously never saw those photo's :biggrin:

taranaki
09-14-2003, 06:02 PM
:rolleyes: well, you obviously never saw those photo's :biggrin:

He's dead.End of story.Get over it. :banghead:

grimmy
09-14-2003, 06:16 PM
but naki you cant just overlook the scientemifical factuals.
1 he was reading a book for 7 days
2 he changed his name
3 suge night is a fat ass mo fo, and tupac isnt that great of a bullet proof vest
4 he rapped about dying and death and some other shit too
5 somebody took a pic af a dead black man and put it in a book
6 he never got his autopsickle

so i dont know about you kiwi's but its pretty obvious over here that he is coming back.

jon@af
09-14-2003, 06:38 PM
but naki you cant just overlook the scientemifical factuals.
1 he was reading a book for 7 days
2 he changed his name
3 suge night is a fat ass mo fo, and tupac isnt that great of a bullet proof vest
4 he rapped about dying and death and some other shit too
5 somebody took a pic af a dead black man and put it in a book
6 he never got his autopsickle

so i dont know about you kiwi's but its pretty obvious over here that he is coming back.


Alright, I'll see if I can put some words of wisdom in here:

Tupac Shakur was wanting to get out of the rap business, and Suge Knight knew this. Suge was not too happy with this because he knew that if he lost Tupac, or more specifically Tupacs songs, he would lose the money made from those songs and albums that were put out. Suge Knight didnt die with Tupac because he wasnt supposed to. The drive-by done on the vehicle they were in was meant specifically for Tupac. Suge getting hit in any way Im sure was just something he had to deal with if he wanted the job done.

You may ask "how does Tupac Being dead make it so Suge doesnt lose money?" Well boys and girls, Tupac was bound to Suge Knight and Death Row records through a contract and in that contract all songs and lyrics produced by the rapper are in part property of the label as long as that rapper is with the label and doesnt leave for another one. If Tupac dies suddenly, the rights for all of his lyrics and tracks go to the label for which he worked, giving Suge Knight the power to keep putting out Tupac albums and tracks (which is why there were albums released after his death). Therefore, Suge gets what he wants out of the deal by making it look like a gang shooting. Ever wonder why they never found out who killed Tupac? Because they weren't meant to. Anyways, Tupac Shakur is dead, and he is not coming back. Coincidentally, his death was the reason Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg dropped the label shortly there after.

taranaki
09-14-2003, 06:41 PM
but naki you cant just overlook the scientemifical factuals.
1 he was reading a book for 7 days
2 he changed his name
3 suge night is a fat ass mo fo, and tupac isnt that great of a bullet proof vest
4 he rapped about dying and death and some other shit too
5 somebody took a pic af a dead black man and put it in a book
6 he never got his autopsickle

so i dont know about you kiwi's but its pretty obvious over here that he is coming back.

So....you accept all of that as fact,and up until now accepted that he'd be coming back on September 13th 2003 as fact too...?

Well that never happened,guess the rest of it is a crock of deadhead rapper shit as well.

In the words of the legendary Monty Python....

'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!


Come to think of it,the whole Tupac ressurection idea sounds a lot like a Python piece. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

grimmy
09-14-2003, 06:46 PM
wow naki you do a realy good impression of a british accent

anyhoo all of that was a joke i have never once believed he would be coming back. the whole idea is ridiculous, i was just trying to make fun.

2strokebloke
09-14-2003, 07:30 PM
In the words of the legendary Monty Python....


Belive it or not, John Cleese said those line, not "Monty Python" (who is not a historical figure, and John anyway is more "mythical" than "legendary" :biggrin: )

benchi44
09-14-2003, 07:45 PM
ilike2drivecars dr. dre left before the shooting,thats why the song to live and to die in l.a off of "Makaveli - The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory" he says in the end "LA, California Love part motherfuckin Two
Without gay ass Dre"

carrrnuttt
09-14-2003, 08:18 PM
Not that I care,he wasn't even a musician,he was a rapper. :2cents:

Just because you don't understand something doesn't give you the right to bash it. Same philosophy I apply for my love of cars.

Although I am not as big into rap as I used to be, Tupac's music, if you ever bother listening to it, contained a lot of wisdom...and though you might refuse to admit it, that man was a lot smarter than most people you would claim to be "musicians".

How many "musicians" do you know can claim to have based their philosophies off of classic literature?

A lot of rap mentality is based off the limited sphere that most rappers come from...they usually don't have the "worldly" knowledge you seem to enjoy, 'Naki.

Either way, they are a lot more successful with a "defective" product than a lot of people are with their "mainstream" "traditional" music...so who's smarter in the end?

taranaki
09-14-2003, 08:28 PM
Just because you don't understand something doesn't give you the right to bash it. Same philosophy I apply for my love of cars.

Although I am not as big into rap as I used to be, Tupac's music, if you ever bother listening to it, contained a lot of wisdom...and though you might refuse to admit it, that man was a lot smarter than most people you would claim to be "musicians".

How many "musicians" do you know can claim to have based their philosophies off of classic literature?

A lot of rap mentality is based off the limited sphere that most rappers come from...they usually don't have the "worldly" knowledge you seem to enjoy, 'Naki.

Either way, they are a lot more successful with a "defective" product than a lot of people are with their "mainstream" "traditional" music...so who's smarter in the end?

A bite! A bite! I got a bite!

tHANKS,Carnutt,you made my day.


Oh God,I LOVE teasing rap fans,they get so.....precious.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

jon@af
09-14-2003, 08:37 PM
ilike2drivecars dr. dre left before the shooting,thats why the song to live and to die in l.a off of "Makaveli - The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory" he says in the end "LA, California Love part motherfuckin Two
Without gay ass Dre"


My bad dude, thanks for clearing that up.

benchi44
09-14-2003, 08:48 PM
no problem

carrrnuttt
09-14-2003, 09:16 PM
A bite! A bite! I got a bite!

tHANKS,Carnutt,you made my day.


Oh God,I LOVE teasing rap fans,they get so.....precious.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm not exactly a "rap fan" per sé...I enjoy most forms of music. I just happen to personally know somebody that's trying to get into that business, and his penchant for putting his sometimes deep, sometimes swift, thoughts into words would be something I would be hard-pressed to match, even though I used to write poetry, and am a big literary fan. I highly-doubt if you can, either.

To stereotype "rap fans" and rappers the way you do is like me saying that all rock is the same. There are different artists, and different styles, and different messages...and different types of "fans".

What you are doing is in bad taste, IMO.

Ricochet
09-15-2003, 01:09 AM
If he wasn't a rapper do you think it would be the same? No, he's just another human being like the rest of us, and when you get riddled with bullets there's no 'rapture' because everybody has your cd. You're dead.

SkYLiNeFrEaK
09-15-2003, 03:52 AM
Yogs, i have tons of respect for you, but seriously....what would you think if somebody thought it was comical if some of your favorite music artists got shot? Prolly try to defend yourself from ppl making fun of you for thinking that your music was in great tastes, and im sure it is, but.


The anti rap comments need to stop...Everyone here should just let everyone have their musical tastes whatever it may be...dont just diss on a genre of music just because it doesnt suit your tastes...everyone's tastes are different..



But on another note... :evillol:


Somebody shut this thread down and close it.

Ssom
09-15-2003, 04:15 AM
Yogs, i have tons of respect for you, but seriously....what would you think if somebody thought it was comical if some of your favorite music artists got shot? Prolly try to defend yourself from ppl making fun of you for thinking that your music was in great tastes, and im sure it is, but.


The anti rap comments need to stop...Everyone here should just let everyone have their musical tastes whatever it may be...dont just diss on a genre of music just because it doesnt suit your tastes...everyone's tastes are different..



But on another note... :evillol:


Somebody shut this thread down and close it.



Will do!..........................Errrr......No I won't

YogsVR4
09-15-2003, 07:55 AM
Yogs, i have tons of respect for you, but seriously....what would you think if somebody thought it was comical if some of your favorite music artists got shot? Prolly try to defend yourself from ppl making fun of you for thinking that your music was in great tastes, and im sure it is, but.


The anti rap comments need to stop...Everyone here should just let everyone have their musical tastes whatever it may be...dont just diss on a genre of music just because it doesnt suit your tastes...everyone's tastes are different..



No can do. Must make fun of stupidity. The theory of him coming back from the dead is the same as the fake moon landing bunch. Its just too dumb to let it pass. I am not making fun of the dead - I am making fun of how some people are reacting to that death.

The music I like can be ridiculed by anyone here who wants too. Anyone here want to rip on AC/DC or perhaps ZZ Top? Be my guest. Won't make a bit of difference to me and I bet it won't make a bit of difference to them either.

Its so easy to get the goat of rappers and their fans (for the most part). They put to much stock in what other people think.

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