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mynismo
09-10-2003, 01:50 AM
i pulled out all the stops and got an '85 300zx with a v8 400ci/300hp small block. engine is out of some pontiac muscle car, i think a 71 gto (http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/pontiac-gto/pontiac-gto-history.shtml). red, ttops, needs a lil body work but who cares, i got a deal.

i will get it sometime next week, getting it shipped because i cant take off two days to drive to wisconsin and back. 700mi, yea right. id rather sit at home watch tv, football and eat some wings and chips.

it's time for the 240 to go. if anyone wants it you can "buy it now" $4000 with rims and tires. everything. it needs to go. im in cleveland, ohio. it runs a 16.4 with a perfect .5 reaction time. auto.

the 300zx v8 will be my daily driver :licka: it's supposed to run high 13's. automatic baby, the z manual cars are supposed to be slower, so you know how that is...

not many of them out there, i know a place called scareb did the conversions back in the 80's for $20,000. the car should be just about as fast as a twin turbo z32, only without the high insurance. ill give it a pro paint job in the spring. it will be a classic... i think im gonna hang onto it for a while. the rb plan is on hold for now.....

latenightrider
09-10-2003, 03:16 AM
Dude that sounds like a super sweet car your gettin..lol...i gotta see some pics of that. A V8 in a 85 300zx oh baby....wish i could buy your ride but i got no cash...lol....anywho im gonna get a 91 coupe anyways :)...good luck on selling your car.

ShinRekka
09-10-2003, 06:53 AM
i wanted to buy that beast but i couldnt sell my sho fast enough. i think by the time the Z31 came out or the 280ZX's, the manual cars were faster. Oh and it its 6.6litre I think some oldsmobiles had them and i know the 70's and early 80's f-bodys had them. Some light mods and you'll do 12's and thats faster then the new corvettes.

mynismo
09-10-2003, 09:53 AM
i wanted to buy that beast but i couldnt sell my sho fast enough. i think by the time the Z31 came out or the 280ZX's, the manual cars were faster. Oh and it its 6.6litre I think some oldsmobiles had them and i know the 70's and early 80's f-bodys had them. Some light mods and you'll do 12's and thats faster then the new corvettes.
a lot of people were looking at it, i bid with 2 seconds left. i knew i would get it when someone bid before me about 10 min and it didn't upbid the previous guy's bid. i was dancing at 3:00 in the morning right after i placed it, i'm so happy. not sure about the auto vs manual... i believe the z31's still had a problem with stick, they were slower. anyways this has a GM 700R4 transmission, that thing will never die! i heard they are awesome inexpensive trannys. yea 6.6L compared to 2.4L or 2.0L with the sr, I can't go wrong.

how much do you think it will cost me to run 12's in it? I think it runs a flat 14.0 stock. i read that thats the easiest possible engine to buy parts for since it's so popular and has tons of displacement. 6.6L, have you heard of anything that big? lol

i researched and i think its out of a 71 gto. that is the only one that had the 400/300 ratio that the guy said it had. but i'll see, could also be out of some kindof firebird.

if i can run 12's that would rock, it would be a really good sleeper besides the fact that it would sound like a freakin old firebird. i have vidclips of a 280z with a v8, it sounds awesome.

i also wanted to get this car because i think it's one of the few perfect hybrids. an import with american muscle, you can't beat that. plus insurance will be like 1/2 has much as the 240 since it's so old.

mynismo
09-10-2003, 10:02 AM
couple vidclips of one of the older z's with a v8

http://showcase.netins.net/web/kms/images/burnout.mpg

http://showcase.netins.net/web/kms/images/donut.mpg

the other one i have is on my computer but can't find the link to it, it has a chevy engine and sounds a lil louder and meaner.

dayna240sx
09-10-2003, 10:14 AM
Remember, a "Z" car with a V8 may as well be a "Z28"

So are you going to grow a mullet and let it flap in the tee-top breeze?

sacriledge!!!! :disappoin :screwy: :confused: :shakehead :headshake :banghead:

mynismo
09-10-2003, 10:48 AM
So are you going to grow a mullet and let it flap in the tee-top breeze?

ive spent the last two weeks growing a nice beard and letting my hair grow out. it's currently 1.5" long :iceslolan

HATER :loser: seriously think about it. its faster. its cheaper. not everyone has one (in fact, almost no one has one). it sounds better. i can't find a reason to NOT cross the line.

dayna240sx
09-10-2003, 10:55 AM
how about fuel economy?


by next summer I'll be able to out run it, and still have 25+ mpg

ShinRekka
09-10-2003, 11:05 AM
Yeh pontiac and chevy are pretty much the same, im gonna do some research and get back to you on the 12's. I kinda got part of my toe taken off today so i wont be back to work in awile and have some free time on my hands. My friend just put a crate engine in his 83 camaro from enginefactory.com it came with 350hp and he added hooker headers and from that back was 2 1/2" pipes to borla mufflers and then smoothly bent out infront of the rear wheels. Its crazy fast and it sounds so mean. He even somehow got it to shoot flames out the pipes like those nitro (or alcohol?) drag cars. I've even seen him smoke the tires at 40-50 mph. Im not sure how much weight your engine adds because its 455cui. So i think it weighs somewere in between a mustang 5.0 and a 80's camaro/firebird, a mustang 5.0 you need around 300hp to the rear wheels with good gearing to hit 12's, not to mention good traction. So you probaly need around 350hp to the wheels and torque wont be a problem with that engine. Now if i were you I would add a nice cam with a rough idle, a performance carb, i think because the firebirds have them, you can add a shaker scoop for some extra power but you'll have to cut the hood, also do the exhaust go to a place were they can make you an exhaust, 2 1/2 inch pipes should be w/ borla mufflers, you have a big block so it should sound a bit meaner then what you've herd in other v8 z's.. Go to the pontiac or chevy forums they would know more then me. Also edlebrock.com is a good place for performance parts. Those engines were much simpler then what we have today and they have much more parts availble for cheap because they have been used in many different cars by chevy/pontiac/oldsmobile and years of redneck technology have gone into making them go fast. Will be much easier/cheaper then building an import engine. I'll come back with more info later. oh yeh i forgot to mention, a V8 z31 especialy with a big block, is incredibly rare. Much more so then a 240sx with a RB. I think if you swich to the 240sx with an rb you will be dissapointed, theres just something about the tire melting power of a classic american V8, you wont have any problem getting replacement/performance parts for this engine. Do yourself a favor and get the car dynoed, some gto's came with 400hp and some firebirds only came with 200hp and they both had that engine.

stealthj
09-10-2003, 11:07 AM
thats a pretty cool car, but i always wantes a small block 350 in a old 240Z, why didint u jus get that?? !

hope it all goes well selling your 240, hope u stay around on these forums and keep the same username!

enecks
09-10-2003, 12:20 PM
what's in the works?

how about fuel economy?


by next summer I'll be able to out run it, and still have 25+ mpg

mynismo
09-10-2003, 12:33 PM
So you probaly need around 350hp to the wheels and torque wont be a problem with that engine.
400 ft-lbs of torque.
you have a big block so it should sound a bit meaner then what you've herd in other v8 z's..
i have a chevy small block.
Those engines were much simpler then what we have today and they have much more parts availble for cheap because they have been used in many different cars by chevy/pontiac/oldsmobile and years of redneck technology have gone into making them go fast. Will be much easier/cheaper then building an import engine.
yep i heard they are real easy to work on. i will have to research, i really don't know anything about any other engine besides nissan. rednecks rule!! thank you rednecks for the cheap parts... :icon16:
oh yeh i forgot to mention, a V8 z31 especialy with a big block, is incredibly rare. Much more so then a 240sx with a RB. I think if you swich to the 240sx with an rb you will be dissapointed, theres just something about the tire melting power of a classic american V8, you wont have any problem getting replacement/performance parts for this engine.
again i have a chevy small block. 400ci, its a huge one, the biggest one they've ever made. it is still very rare, i tried to find a similiar one online and i couldn't anywhere. all they have in z's are 327's and such. i will have absolutely no problem getting parts, summit is 40 minutes away from me, and i know the owner of a big muscle car performance shop so he could probably cut me some deals.

Do yourself a favor and get the car dynoed, some gto's came with 400hp and some firebirds only came with 200hp and they both had that engine.
i will get it dynoed before i touch the engine or do anything performance wise. either that or i'll run a gtech on it. i asked the owner and he said the only thing he knows is that it has 300hp with a 700R transmission and it is very fast. i wonder what it runs... i seen another z31 with just about the same engine but something was really messed up on it, like a cam, and it still ran a 14.8. this should run close to a 14.0 do to the horsepower calculator i use, it is very accurate.
thats a pretty cool car, but i always wantes a small block 350 in a old 240Z, why didint u jus get that?? !
it wasn't for sale :smile: i got this car for $2550, get that :smile: :smile:
hope it all goes well selling your 240, hope u stay around on these forums and keep the same username!
yes, i wont change any username here, i just got purple stars! :p

stealthj
09-10-2003, 01:43 PM
damn thats a hella good deal, u got LUCKY!!!!

r u gonna get another fastback anytime soon?

klohiq
09-10-2003, 03:26 PM
I don't care how fast an auto or semi-auto (ferrari paddle shifter style...not nsx psuedo semi-auto) is...I love manual and nothing with ever stop me from using a clutch...

and I hate V8s....only thing good about them is how throaty and mean they sound, but an I6 can sound just as badass and it's not weak like domestics so it can handle turbo or bi-turbo setups and still not fall apart.

And one last thing...300zx front end will always remind me of a saturn because it looks just like it from many angles...almost the same styled lights. if you get projectors you might be able to change that...

Traitor :P

RalphCare
09-10-2003, 04:13 PM
I don't care how fast an auto or semi-auto (ferrari paddle shifter style...not nsx psuedo semi-auto) is...I love manual and nothing with ever stop me from using a clutch...

and I hate V8s....only thing good about them is how throaty and mean they sound, but an I6 can sound just as badass and it's not weak like domestics so it can handle turbo or bi-turbo setups and still not fall apart.

And one last thing...300zx front end will always remind me of a saturn because it looks just like it from many angles...almost the same styled lights. if you get projectors you might be able to change that...

Traitor :P

#1) v8's can make immense power, more than just about any other engine on the planet (Bud King anyone?)

#2) v8's can handle turbo's. there is a chevy with 4 turbos that does a wheel stand in second gear AFTER the turbos kick in. and a GSX with a super and turbo charger.

#3) he has a z31, not a z32. And the Saturn lites look like the Z lites, not the other way around :icon16:


oh yeah, the attached pics aint workin at all.

SR20DETpower
09-10-2003, 04:35 PM
dunno if you know but this site is pretty cool forum wise and good reading.


Hybridz.org .com .net some shit lol......

basically its older 240'z etc with v8 swaps or other Nissan swaps. They talk about other cars as well and have a lot of different sections, defintely worth checking out.

mynismo
09-10-2003, 04:35 PM
the af forum isn't working that great lately, that's prolly why you can't see em. here are some more

http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_625604ea4e7bd6084832e9a7017fb879/i-1.JPG
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_625604ea4e7bd6084832e9a7017fb879/i-2.JPG
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_625604ea4e7bd6084832e9a7017fb879/i-3.JPG
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_625604ea4e7bd6084832e9a7017fb879/i-4.JPG
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_625604ea4e7bd6084832e9a7017fb879/i-5.JPG
http://ebay3.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_625604ea4e7bd6084832e9a7017fb879/i-6.JPG

the headlights aren't the best in the world, i was thinking about changing them to something else. they must have conversion kits for the z31 because i'm not sure if a lot of people like them anyways. they aren't TOO bad...

mine also has one of those mini hood-scoops, hehe

he sent me other pics, the paint isn't that good. the dash needs some work and the carpets do too. it'll be a lil project, i'm going to try to look for an all-black interior and get it decked out with some recaro racing seats. then in the spring im getting a paint job for it.

im not touching the engine or anything performance-wise unil i know exactly how fast i want it and what i will do to it, completely. i want to run mid-12's, and it shouldn't be too hard. twin turbos on the chevy 400ci small block? haha i can only imagine the power that would make.

i will have the car (hopefully) by the end of next week. i will take some digital's and a vid of how it sounds and post em here...

it already has a complete 3" exhaust system. hopefully it has a cat, otherwise i'll have some work to do.

ttops! yay

the engine looks real clean and good. only 22,000 mi. i don't know how i found this car.

SR20DETpower
09-10-2003, 04:39 PM
also on side note, since it has a big block, forget about handling. I suggest getting a big ass solid rear axel and a 9" or so diff.... stick some wide ass meat or E/T slicks on that bish lol..... gotta be able to use that torque. probably with good traction like that you would be in the 12's alone...

this may sound stupid to you Import guys, but if I had a big block I wouldn't be running it through a IRS and a R200......
:screwy:

mynismo
09-10-2003, 05:09 PM
for the last time... i dont have a big block :headshake

its a 400ci chevy small block out of a pontiac gto. its the biggest possible small block they've ever made, and has more hp then most of the big blocks, but without the weight.

mynismo
09-10-2003, 05:16 PM
also on side note, since it has a big block, forget about handling. I suggest getting a big ass solid rear axel and a 9" or so diff.... stick some wide ass meat or E/T slicks on that bish lol..... gotta be able to use that torque. probably with good traction like that you would be in the 12's alone...

this may sound stupid to you Import guys, but if I had a big block I wouldn't be running it through a IRS and a R200......
:screwy:
irs? r200? what are those...

also, good traction alone wouldn't get me into the 12's.... i highly doubt that.

mynismo
09-10-2003, 05:24 PM
this may sound stupid to you Import guys, but if I had a big block I wouldn't be running it through a IRS and a R200......
:screwy:
im guessing those are body styles... what's wrong with that. whatever's faster..................... :sunglasse
ill be faster than an sr and prolly an rb20 with this. a couple upgrades... 4000 total including car... im low 13's. you can't find a faster cheaper car to run 13's with ANYWHERE... besides maybe the old granny's grand national

ghostchild316
09-10-2003, 05:37 PM
irs? r200? what are those...


IRS - Independant Rear Suspension

R200 - Same type differential found on the 240SX

SR20DETpower
09-10-2003, 06:01 PM
R200 is the diff Nissan uses in most its cars with power to the rear wheels, Z31's, Z32's, S13-15 and I even think the GTR. Good diff for nissan type shit, wouldn't want to run the Torque of that motor through one though. Also the IRS might be strong, but sooner or later its just going to eat axels like it ain't no thang. And yes, with a 455 or whateva running in a Z31, with a good setup on traction alone you would be in the 12's.... thats almost half the ballgame on domestics.... awesome traction.... big ass slicks lol. Either atleast some 275 drag radials or something like a E/T Street Micky Tompson drag slick...... legal on the streets, wouldn't take a corner hard or go in rain though lol.


do you have any idea what kinda numbers that engine puts out or stock ones?

mynismo
09-10-2003, 10:32 PM
R200 is the diff Nissan uses in most its cars with power to the rear wheels, Z31's, Z32's, S13-15 and I even think the GTR. Good diff for nissan type shit, wouldn't want to run the Torque of that motor through one though.

do you have any idea what kinda numbers that engine puts out or stock ones?
should i upgrade to an lsd? i thought the z's already had one...

300 horsepower. 400 ft-lbs of torque. 400 cubic inch. v8. chevy small block. gm 700r4 transmission. 3" exhaust.

stock z turbo runs 15.7. there is a guy with a similiar chevy engine in his z31 and he ran 14.7 with a bad cam. im hoping to do at the very least low 14's on the stock motor and tranny.

if anything i can fix it up and turnaround and sell it. but i really do want to hang onto this for a while. i already found a bra for it on ebay to cover up the paint spots on the front, still looking for the center taillight piece thing to replace. the worse part is around the spoiler, its kinda discolored. i'll see if i can just get a $50 mayco job for that one spot to make it look halfway decent until i get a paintjob for it in the spring.

mynismo
09-10-2003, 10:45 PM
here's that 300zx i was talking about...

http://www.comet466.homestead.com/Page4.html

scroll down to about the middle

SR20DETpower
09-11-2003, 09:04 AM
I would DEFINTELY upgrade the LSD. Even a turbo one of those years is not equipped with a VLSD, and if it were, that engine would tear it up rather quickly as they aren't the hardest piece of machinery around. an expensive Quaife would probably do the trick as its pretty hard to tear those up, they even fully warranty them under any conditions including racing, now thats standing behind your product, but they cost over a grand easy. You will still probably rip up half shafts and those little axels if you push 400 or more HP I would say and it could be a PITA.


so many people are always worried about having their engine make more HP... if your just wanting to go faster there are a lot of mods that you should do first. Make your chassis acceptable for the power first, so you can use it..... a 600hp car that runs 12's could be cool, but a 300hp car that runs 12's is even better.

I suggest a HIGH stall TC
Street Slicks or Drag Radials
Solid rear axel or other means of supporting lotta hp.
shift kit for tranny

do all this shit first and see where you are at, you probably already have enough power to be good enough for anyone, you just have to exploit it.


case in point, look at all the cars in my sig, Im sure they all run some nice HP numbers, but those cars wouldn't be anything close to what they are without all the supporting mods. They wouldn't be too competitive if they just dropped a 400hp engine into a stock chassis......

mynismo
09-11-2003, 11:15 AM
I suggest a HIGH stall TC
Street Slicks or Drag Radials
Solid rear axel or other means of supporting lotta hp.
shift kit for tranny

do all this shit first and see where you are at, you probably already have enough power to be good enough for anyone, you just have to exploit it.
im feelin ya, you are actually making perfect sense. i will save for that lsd (right here http://www.optauto.com/webstore/product_information.asp?number=Q-44309150&variation=&aitem=6&mitem=6&back=yes&dept=2885 ) and get some drag radials in the spring.

how much should labor be on that lsd if done by Nissan? im guessing around $400-500. i'll have enough for it right when i sell my 240, hell maybe ill do it soon.

also with engine mods, it puts additional stress on the engine and the engine will prolly last a lot less longer. an lsd has no bearing on wear and tear of performance, and even if it does that one lsd has a lifetime warranty, that sounds awesome.

yum.

SR20DETpower
09-11-2003, 10:34 PM
:grinyes:

are you just trying to have a straight line car?
If so getting some drag radials would be a good idea, they don't work good in rain you know, but if its an everyday driver or something I would get a nice set of regular styled tires, and get some cheap wide rims and mount on some Micky Thompson E/T Street slicks(read up on these)...

:rofl:

while you might do a LSD, upgrade to a better gearing for a little bit better off the line, not too wild of a ratio so it doesn't kill your top end..

that would be the ultimate setup for a Friday Night street race, cars with a regular set of tires won't stand a chance on the launch.. hahaha

:screwy:

SR20DETpower
09-11-2003, 10:36 PM
oh man everyone who gets those Quaife's said its the best thing they ever did and is worth the money. Its a popular mod to do on SHO's for the people willing to put out the money, one or maybe two guys broke theirs during hard races on tracks, some people don't see how they did, but the diff was replaced no questions asked

:icon16:

mynismo
09-12-2003, 09:36 AM
im going for sheer straight-line power. i want to be able to take out those muscle cars on the streets of ctown. there are way more many classic cars up here than imports. i have only seen about 2 modified hondas in town, hence another reason why i'm giving up the 240.

i'll get some street drag radials in the spring, and prolly get the differential soon. anyone know of a place that sells them cheaper than $1100?

mark

p.s. this af server blows. they better upgrade soon.

Dorikin
09-14-2003, 06:36 PM
Man hp is hp, timeslips are timeslips. Id rather have an out and out GTO or muscle car, but as I said above, in the end, you win thats what matters

R.W.240
09-14-2003, 08:01 PM
im going for sheer straight-line power. i want to be able to take out those muscle cars on the streets of ctown.


Technically you have a muscle car too. :eek:

Anyhoo ive heard quaifes are better for turning and clutch types like Kaaz are better for drag... and that solid axle conversion someone was talking about a few posts back probably isnt a bad idea i doubt a 15 year old Nissan IRS and Diff would be able to handle 450ft/lbs and wide ass tires. :2cents:

mynismo
09-14-2003, 10:05 PM
Technically you have a muscle car too. :eek:
yea, but in a nissan shell :naughty:

i prolly wont touch this car until spring, only thing im getting for it is a bra to hide that ugly ass front end. already ordered :smile:

i want to get a nice digital camera soon and couple other things first......... plus a winter will give me time to think of what to do to it.

mynismo
09-14-2003, 10:25 PM
also, for the debate between auto vs. manual for the z31, a turbo stick does 17.2, while an auto pulls a 15.7.

yes... the auto is that much faster. the sticks were screwed up back in the day. anyone know why?


edit: i finally found out how much a 300zx weighs, i was looking everywhere and was unable to find it.

http://www.missouri.edu/~apcb20/cars6.html#86300ZXTurbo

3000 lbs (v8 weighs 100 more, but the a/c was removed so it's right around stock)


using the quarter mi calc
http://www.mrccfl.com/quartermile.html?lbs=3000&hp=300&submit=Get+Results

300hp should get me to run in the mid to low 13's..... wow, i was expecting to run high 14's if not a flat 15.0. this gives me some inspiration.

i cant wait until it comes at the end of the week!!!!!!!

SR20DETpower
09-15-2003, 07:20 PM
yep just a pair of wrinkle wall slicks will put you in the 12's... Its a totally different ballgame with slicks vs street tires. I dunno what u been smoken, but a 5spd Z31 will run it in 14.9...... this is from 1983 in a magazine, forget which, where they compare it to the Corvette of that era, I think the corvette was about a tenth of a second quicker in the 1/4 mile but the Z just bashed it up and down the streets all day and all night lol, better breaking, traction, road holding...i ain't telling you anything you don't know lol..

If it were my car, Mynismo

1) Quaife Diffrential.
2) Tires
3) Turbo 400 tranny with atleast 2500 rpm stall Torque Converter

and I also dunno about that radiator, I would get a better one myself...

SR20DETpower
09-15-2003, 07:27 PM
with those 3 things you will EASILY be in 12's with a great launch


practice it lol

stealthj
09-15-2003, 10:47 PM
SR20detperformance.....

i love your sig pictures..... its like all my dreams coem true

mynismo
09-16-2003, 12:25 AM
with those 3 things you will EASILY be in 12's with a great launch


practice it lol
it shouldn't take much. in an auto all you do is give it some gas :lol2:

700r tranny is better than a stock 5spd, no question. i dont want to put more money into it to convert it to a high performance 5 spd, that would cost so much more money.

14.9..... where are you getting your info? i got the 15.7 from c&d, they usually post times that are higher than the fact. you could be right.

SR20DETpower
09-16-2003, 07:27 AM
turbo 400 is GM's strongest transmission they ever made, its like a fuckin tank.... if you blow up a turbo 400..... if you had any other Chevy tranny it woulda blown up 5 times by the time a turbo 400 woulda faulted. Bad thing though is it only has 3 speeds and will kill your top end. Good thing is you can run MASSIVE amounts of power hard all day and not worry about drivetrain breaking. There is not a GM tranny stronger then this, of any year, auto or manual.

mynismo
09-16-2003, 10:23 AM
who needs that unless your pushing over 500hp...

i read up and a LOT of the muscle cars for sale have the 700r tranny, so it must be decently good.

SR20DETpower
09-16-2003, 11:04 AM
trust me, my father runs a mechanic shop for a couple decades lol, Turbo 400 is the strongest tranny and best if you want to run some power, over 300hp or about 380-400lbs of torque. most v8's aren't really that strong, even mid 80's corvettes had like 215hp.....

they are even way more stronger then a newer t5 or 56...

newer autos like the 4l60e are whats in camaros, corvettes, and the Impala ss(Lt1, LS1 generations).... its rated for 360lbs of torque my bro says, hes gone through 3 of them so far on his SS lol.... They are basically an electronic version of the 700.....and his has shift kit, modified valve body, and every hardened part you can buy better then stock put together professionally and it still breaks down every few months or so. Hes about ready to drop in a T56 or a Turbo 400, hes tired of that cheap shit called the 4l60e....

my opinion on the subject is he shoulda bought another Nissan

even though the Impala is pretty nice and I do like to drive it. I am surprised at how good it handles, it will easily take out a Camaro, C4 vettes, and probably anything but a ballsy import like a NSX, Supra, 300zx or 240sx modded to the hilt.

mynismo
09-16-2003, 01:10 PM
i wonder how this tranny will hold up then. my car stock is 300hp, 400 lbs of tourque. hmm.

what do you guys think it will run? 13s?

SR20DETpower
09-16-2003, 01:22 PM
it all depends on your traction, the first time you run it I say you get a 15 or 16...... with months of practice on an open diff and 7" wide stock z31 rims I bet it will run low 14's or high high 13's... with slicks, diff, and a high stall TC, it would defintely be in the 12's if launched right...

and thats just on stock engine, which is more reliable and all.....

or you could keep the traction setup, spend that money on carb, head cam whatever, get 12's with a less reliable engine and walking a fine line of a 12second perfect pass or a tire smoking 16 seconds of fun down the 1320.

mynismo
09-16-2003, 04:07 PM
it all depends on your traction, the first time you run it I say you get a 15 or 16...... with months of practice on an open diff and 7" wide stock z31 rims I bet it will run low 14's or high high 13's...
arg

DUDE, FOR THE LAST TIME... it's an auto. i do not have to perfect any launch. every launch is good....

im thinking it will do about an even 14 on the track bone stock.


my plans for this car now include: bra, dash cover, paint job. total cost = $2200. im sure i can sell this quickly if it looks awesome and does a 14.0 stock. or i'll just run it into the ground for the next 6 or 7 years.... :grinyes:

SR20DETpower
09-16-2003, 05:25 PM
you obviously don't drag race much then


in racing the launch is all of it, you need a perfect launch, you have an auto so what, all that means is your acceleration given constant traction will be consistent and you don't have to shift the car manually....

you can still have an auto and fucup every launch and get high numbers, this is something that doesnt happen just on manuals. You will hit the throttle just right and go, too much and spin em and either have to let off or keep spinning them until it catches, or you will not hit it enough and get RIDICULOUS 60' times and probably 15 or 16 second passes, like I said your first run with it at an actual drag strip will probably be 15 or 16 second time slip.... a few later it will start to get better. you have to get the feel of the car, and this can't really be done on the street, if you have ever driven on a drag strip you know the strip has diffrent traction, its almost sticky and feels like its slowing down the car it has that much of an effect, its not like slick smooth concrete.

I wish we had some people into drag racing on here lol, so you would get another opinion on this......no offense just most people on here don't give a shit about it or even know anything about it.

mynismo
09-16-2003, 11:54 PM
common sense to let go of the throttle so your tires dont spin.... come'on dude.

ive been down the track quite a few times, maybe i never noticed it because of the eagle f1 tires :naughty:

i will take it to the track as soon as i get it.

SR20DETpower
09-17-2003, 07:32 AM
its not always that simple, come on post your first timeslip you get of it for me on here, I will be shocked or won't believe its the first run if its not a 16 second time slip haha

no offense to you, its just usually how it goes, and your no Don Garlett. And you don't have much experience, actually none at all, in that car... even after a year of driving it you probabably still will have room for improvement. Don't expect perfect shit the first time you go out.


oh and as far as spinning the rears, whats a SOHC got like 150lbs of torque? 400lbs of torque on normal tires with an open diff is going to roast your tires like a fucking rotisseree, it will be much harder to launch and you will have a lot to figure out, even after probably 20 passes you will still be dumbfounded on how to get the best times.

mynismo
09-17-2003, 10:21 AM
oh and as far as spinning the rears, whats a SOHC got like 150lbs of torque? 400lbs of torque on normal tires with an open diff is going to roast your tires like a fucking rotisseree, it will be much harder to launch and you will have a lot to figure out, even after probably 20 passes you will still be dumbfounded on how to get the best times.
i believe you there. with my 240 and stock tires they spun pretty good, but once i popped on the f1's it just took off. i think i will have to get some kind of drag radials or i'll be going through tires left and right.

SR20DETpower
09-17-2003, 11:06 AM
a lsd will help some, Id just recromend a set of wide ass Kumho's or something, they are fairly cheap and z rated with soft tread. Want to go drag racing? get yourself some cheap ass wheels like a 15x10 from summit catalouge for a hundred bucks and get you some slicks, then you would be owning lol, this would be if your looking for low times, if your just wanting to have fun and don't give a shit, keep what you got....

that is probably your best bet since its also a normal street driven vehicle. Drag radials will wear out quickly, and won't be too much fun in the rain...

or try out a pair of BF Goodrigh Traction T/A KDW, these are their performance tires for dry and wet...... they still have some big tread patches and still work good in the rain..... they grip pretty damn good compared to other tires on a track as well. They are not as cheap as the Kumho's though.

mynismo
09-17-2003, 03:32 PM
im getting some cheapass slicks yo

:lol:

im going to see if this car is worth it (and it will be...), and when i have exhausted up all of my stock fun im heading up to summit to get some rims, slicks, etc.

what size can i fit on this z? i dont know nothing about slicks. i just need some bitches to grip.

stock tires are 215's.

http://store.summitracing.com/section.asp?d=17&s=73

mynismo
09-17-2003, 03:33 PM
http://store.summitracing.com/product.asp?d=17&s=73&p=951&searchtype=ecat

oooooooooo

SR20DETpower
09-17-2003, 03:55 PM
nope I belive 16' is the biggest they make

and they only make big ass slicks in 16" size cause that is what alcohol powered dragsters must use in NHRA.......

you won't really need a monster sized slick, any slick is better then about any street tire you have to realize.....

I would take some measurements, maybe even get a smaller wheel then a 15" like a 13 or 14...... and since its not everyday tires they could stick out the fender a lil bit and that wouldn't kill ya....
:naughty:

mynismo
09-17-2003, 04:16 PM
found some 17s... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2433202518&category=33745

they look a lil wide :icon16:

SR20DETpower
09-17-2003, 05:41 PM
no those aren't too great, better then a street tire, but its not a drag racing slick

what you want is a wrinkle wall slick, and they make em in smaller diameters because you want a big sidewall that flexes, im sure you seen pics of this on a hard drag launch from a high torqe car.....

that E/T slick was real good....

those tires on ebay that fit 17's are more like a racing track tire, they would be badass for that no doubt.. something kinda like what NASCAR or INDY uses

mynismo
09-17-2003, 10:09 PM
i think i got a deal on some corvette rims and slicks, that would rock. im waiting for the guy to respond to me. they are almost new.... still had sticker goo on them and nipples

:naughty:

street legal real slicks... im hoping they fit. a lot easier to find wheels for 5 lug

americanmusscle
03-28-2004, 10:29 PM
man ok if ur still wanderin what that engine is out of it is an old truck. chevy only put the 400 small block in trucks. its a shitty big block in the firebirds

J_Spec_NiTeMaRe
03-28-2004, 10:33 PM
This thread hasnt been opened in 6 months. Read the AF guidelines. Don't bring back dead threads.

J SPEC SilEighty
03-28-2004, 10:39 PM
and he also sold this car a couple months back

J_Spec_NiTeMaRe
03-28-2004, 10:57 PM
and he also sold this car a couple months back


wtf, it says Mark's banned. the hell? you know the story on this?

J SPEC SilEighty
03-28-2004, 11:09 PM
wtf, it says Mark's banned. the hell? you know the story on this?

what the hell? i haven't heard anything about this. i just looked at his most recent posts and it's not like they were bad or anything so i can't think of a reason why he would get banned.

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