Why does the SRT-4 cost so cheap?

The coilovers that are for the srt-4 are brand new and are made by KW.

Ah, OK. I wonder how different they are from the Dynamics? Maybe the Dynamics are Stage 2?

I'm pretty sure the one lap srt had the stage 1 upgrade because I believe it was put on there as a test for the upgrade. I could be wrong though.

Are you talking about suspension? It could be. I know that Erich said the suspension was the ACR parts. If that's the case, then the Dynamics are Stage 1. I dunno for sure.

If you're talking about the turbo upgrade, you're still right. But I thought I said that already... ;)

Both stage 2 and stage 3 coilovers are made by KW specifically for mopar specifically for the srt. For some reason, there is no stage 1 coilover, don't ask me why.

If you're talking about the turbo upgrade, you're still right. But I thought I said that already...

Looking back at your post about the one lap car you said other than the lsd and suspension, you thought it was stock, that's when I said it had the stage 1 turbo upgrade on it. Maybe I just misunderstood what you meant.

Both stage 2 and stage 3 coilovers are made by KW specifically for mopar specifically for the srt. For some reason, there is no stage 1 coilover, don't ask me why.

Weird. Maybe stock is "Stage 1". :lol:

Looking back at your post about the one lap car you said other than the lsd and suspension, you thought it was stock, that's when I said it had the stage 1 turbo upgrade on it. Maybe I just misunderstood what you meant.

hehe Just a miscommunication. You said it had the turbo, and I said I forgot to mention that and you were correct. I just didn't say what I wanted to say very clearly. :)

Ask any mopar mechanic not some idiot oil changing high school student and he'll tell ya not to get a dodge...

Bullshit! Ase certified master technician, been working on these babies for 10 years, and for me its MOPAR OR NO CAR

4. Where's this proof of a 500 whp Neon. Mod list? PICS

http://www.forwardmotioninc.com/html/news.htm
LOOK FOR YOURSELF...ARE YOU TIRED OF LOOKING AT DODGE TAILLIGHTS?

ALso check out the june issue of hot compact and imports page 45-47

4. Where's this proof of a 500 whp Neon. Mod list? PICS

http://www.forwardmotioninc.com/html/news.htm
LOOK FOR YOURSELF...ARE YOU TIRED OF LOOKING AT DODGE TAILLIGHTS?

I also know a guy on www.srtforums.com that has a t3/t4 setup pushing 416whp and 406wtq, but I just can't find the dyno chart. That is with gas though. Those numbers are both up around 500hp at the crank. It's a street driven car though, not strictly for racing. This engine is also in the mopar srt-4 that is driven by shaun carlson and he's pushing 950+ hp on the stock block, crank and bedplate, that should tell you something about this engine, oh yeah, that's at 44psi last I heard.

See? Now we're all starting to get along...can you just feel the love in this forum? :biggrin:

By the way, 93hybridaccord, since you own an SRT-4, could you tell me what you're paying for insurance? And you think you could give me a good guess about how much it would cost for somebody such as myself, with picture-perfect driving record? I'm 17 atm, but by the time i decide to buy an SRT-4, if i do decide, i'll be 18. I'm just looking for a good ballpark estimate, but what some people have told me scares me :uhoh:

The SRT-4 has taken the cake against the several cars that challenged it in road tests, suspension, engine, etc.

The SRT-4 is lacking on the leather and interior design. I didn't buy the car for that junk, I bought it for the performance and right now it is the best deal for your buck.

The SRT-4 has taken the cake against the several cars that challenged it in road tests, suspension, engine, etc.

The SRT-4 is lacking on the leather and interior design. I didn't buy the car for that junk, I bought it for the performance and right now it is the best deal for your buck.

As far as the interior goes, I kind of like it compared to the evo interior. Also, I've been in both an sti and an evo and I like the srt-4 seats a lot more. They fit me better and are more comfy.

As far as insurance goes, I've heard some pretty high prices for younger people. I'm sure for full converage at 18 years old, you will be looking at at least $200-$300 a month depending on your area. If you get an '03, it will be cheaper than if you had an '04 just because of the hp rating.

Everything Polygon says is true and only certain years of the pre SRT neons had problems and to be quite honest after 96-97 years they were alot better crash rating wasnt so good but i had a 98, 4 door, Plymoth neon, 5-speed, only mod it had was an intake that wasnt even for my model it was for the sport it was a hand me down and that car was balls, i smoked a IS300, reg. Lancer, 99 Civic SI sedan, and my friends 99 neon sport that had about 10g's in the engine alone and i burnt him too so that neon pulled its weight and now i own a SRT-4 and tell me how your gonna hate on it, the neon has always been a good rally car and drag car front wheel drive doesnt matter as long and the LSD is good doesnt matter and you know what it was stated that if it was drop 25mm more then the way it comes stock and it would perform way better cause lets face it neons always come stock pretty high esp. in the back but you know what you pull up behind one and its ass is in the air saying come butt fuck me and then you try to step and it shits all over you. i'm not hating on EVO's and STI's but all i'm gonna say is beware because you can drink your haterade but once you get smoked like a splif passed around at rap concert, are you remeber that you got put in your place by a "NEON" or a "SRT-4".

Dude. Why did you bring this up again? It's been like 6-7 months since anybody posted on it. Do yourself a favor as well as everybody else in here, don't bring up dead threads.

If it costs cheap, I wouldn't complain. I don't like spending money.

one thing to learn... i work at a dealership one reason so cheap is not a lot of people dont even want to pay 21k for a neon people come in everyday and look at and then walk away cuz its 21k even though its freakin nice as hell they think its not worthy of 21k..... the motor not lasting who ever said taht the 2.4 is a very relialbe motor of course it wont last as long as a naturally asperated car because of all the pressure the motor has to push but still it will last quite a long time i only seen one come in to are shop so far and thats cuz the idiot but a boost controller and boosted the turbo up to 20 something lbs and blew the headgasket and he still deny's he didnt but ohwell he got it warrented..... the neon srt-4 is worth every 21k penny lol from interior to exterior its a beautiful car!

I also know a guy on www.srtforums.com that has a t3/t4 setup pushing 416whp and 406wtq, but I just can't find the dyno chart. That is with gas though. Those numbers are both up around 500hp at the crank. It's a street driven car though, not strictly for racing. This engine is also in the mopar srt-4 that is driven by shaun carlson and he's pushing 950+ hp on the stock block, crank and bedplate, that should tell you something about this engine, oh yeah, that's at 44psi last I heard.


this guy i believe your talking about is a really good buddy of mine....i just saw him for nopi at mir(in maryland) and he was running 11's...the guys that are helping him with his car are the same ones who are helping with mine...so soon there will be two of us,and who knows maybe even more!


BTW: did the car have blue reverse flame graphics on it??


:nono: oh and also,im not even going to respond to some of the coments made by some trolls in this thread,its not worth it...i kow the truth about srts and thats all that matters!

What are you talking about? It's the truth. Go to the topic listing and see for yourself.

This coming from the guy who asked if the SRT4 engine is a Mercedes engine :lol: :screwy:

you're a mod :rolleyes:

http://www.lemonlaw.com/lemonlist.html

The SRT-4 is lacking on the leather and interior design.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/11366/Picture%20059.jpg
http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/11366/Picture%20060.jpg

hehe :biggrin:

This thread still lives? Let it rest.

Nice fucking seats Viscous! Thats beautiful!

Everything Polygon says is true and only certain years of the pre SRT neons had problems and to be quite honest after 96-97 years they were alot better crash rating wasnt so good but i had a 98, 4 door, Plymoth neon, 5-speed, only mod it had was an intake that wasnt even for my model it was for the sport it was a hand me down and that car was balls, i smoked a IS300, reg. Lancer, 99 Civic SI sedan, and my friends 99 neon sport that had about 10g's in the engine alone and i burnt him too so that neon pulled its weight and now i own a SRT-4 and tell me how your gonna hate on it, the neon has always been a good rally car and drag car front wheel drive doesnt matter as long and the LSD is good doesnt matter and you know what it was stated that if it was drop 25mm more then the way it comes stock and it would perform way better cause lets face it neons always come stock pretty high esp. in the back but you know what you pull up behind one and its ass is in the air saying come butt fuck me and then you try to step and it shits all over you. i'm not hating on EVO's and STI's but all i'm gonna say is beware because you can drink your haterade but once you get smoked like a splif passed around at rap concert, are you remeber that you got put in your place by a "NEON" or a "SRT-4".

First off, puncuation. Come on man.

So you say it doesn't matter if its FWD or not as long as you have LSD.......um........um..........yea you're a moron. Take a physics class and then return to the board a slightly more educated man. In fact, why don't you try some english 101 class too, since you are obviously in dire need of that also.

You can try as hard as you want to put me in your place when you race my 951.. Let's roll, we'll see FWD vs. RWD in all its glory.

I really didnt bother reading the thread just the title I just wanted to say everyone who has contributed to this thread good job cause this has to be the longest thread in the neons sections history............lol

cause its a ricer straight out of the box

Highway to the Ricer Zone

This thread sounds more like imports vs domestics. People will like what they see. And if they want to be stupid and listen to what they hear then thats on them. Now me i kno my neon was one nice little highly underated car. Smoked a few of everything but now its gotta go. The way i see it is if you dont take care of your car whether import or domestic it is going to have promblems and thats where these fan relays and fan problems and other problems come in. Its not the car's fault that it just sits in the driveway and can't move. Its your fault because you were the one who forgot about the maintenance. But imports are nothing but a domestic car until they get the motor swap from some jdm company. And wow i have seen my fair share of high mileage neons but i have also seen imports with the same amount of miles. Neons are great cars. And one last thing they dont need swaps to be fast.

Neons are great cars. And one last thing they dont need swaps to be fast.

:iceslolan

you're a mod :rolleyes:

http://www.lemonlaw.com/lemonlist.html


Your point?

I like how you just say that without offering any evidence to disprove anything I said. Maybe that's why I'm a mod, I back myself up with facts?

4. Where's this proof of a 500 whp Neon. Mod list? PICS

http://www.forwardmotioninc.com/html/news.htm
LOOK FOR YOURSELF...ARE YOU TIRED OF LOOKING AT DODGE TAILLIGHTS?


Interesting how I asked for proof of a 500 whp 99 Neon street car that is in this guys hometown and you show an SRT4 drag car that has nothing to do with him?

Nice try though :screwy:

Your point?

I like how you just say that without offering any evidence to disprove anything I said. Maybe that's why I'm a mod, I back myself up with facts?

Are you sure you got your facts straight buddy? You sound a bit biased...heres some food for thought500whp srt (http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35621&highlight=steve)

Are you sure you got your facts straight buddy? You sound a bit biased...heres some food for thought500whp srt (http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35621&highlight=steve)

:lol: Are you actually reading or just skimming over everything? Maybe you should slow down a little... Here's a hint, try reading my post directly above yours if you want to know why showing me a video of a 500whp SRT4 has nothing to do with anything I've said in this thread.

I mean c'mon, it's the post right above yours. Not like it was hidden several pages back or something.

P.S. 500whp FWD economy car = not my idea of performance.

not to jump in your guys is party but len ayailas first gen neon is hitting 10s in his daily driver.....but again this might not have anything to due with the argument..........uhhhhhhhh......so carry on....

Dont worry he is blind to the fact he drives around a 225hp economy car too :grinno:

Dont worry he is blind to the fact he drives around a 225hp economy car too :grinno:

Little history lesson:

Neon - designed as a base model commuter car to turn a profit for Dodge in the mass market by being cheap. Fast forward to now and they stick new rubber, a bigger sway bar, and a really nice engine in it. It's still a tin can chassis with nothing else significant to it. I challenge you to take a base model Neon and point out a spot Dodge could have done something differently and saved some money, bet you can't.

Impreza - Subaru used to rally with the Legacy. When they decided they needed a better platform to rally with, they designed the Impreza from the ground up to fit that purpose. "Detuned" versions were then mass produced to homologate the chassis. Even the most stripped out FWD base model 93 Imprezas still have all the chassis bracing and all the things Subaru could have dropped to make a cheaper car with a bigger profit margin, but they chose to make a better product instead. 11 years of further platform development in the most demanding type of motorsport on the planet. Might I add it's also the form of motorsport that most closely resembles real world conditions.

Is the Impreza an economy car? Yeah... but it's in another league from the SRT4.

Oh, did I mention all modern Subarus are AWD, which was really my main point to begin with. 500 hp and FWD is not a good recipe for performance. 300 is really pushing it for a FWD platform, even with LSD.

:owned:

http://www.arimport.com/pics/srt4.JPG

wow man you really have a hard-on for you impreza eh? Well what is so significant about a base model impreza that you have to shit all over a base model neon? Nothing really....I have a lot of respect for all cars, but seriously man you come off as an asshole.

Im trying to say that imprezas suck at all, in fact i love em. I'll take two sti's please :biggrin: Just keep in mind that the srt-4 is on to something and yes the reason it IS so cheap is because of the wrong wheel drive...that tin can BS aint gonna fly. look up the one lap of america..an srt took first in its class, as well as mopar's drag team. And well here is some info on mopar's rally team since you say its soo demanding even a tin can neon can't handle it.....
im not trying to come off as an ass but rather trying to give repect where its due.
The Mopar/Dodge SRT-4 Pro Rally Car made it 5 for 5 in the 2004 season, winning the Group 5 Class at the Pikes Peak Pro Rally. Thousands of spectators peppered the mountain to watch Mopar/Dodge’s three-car effort of Doug Shepherd/Pete Gladysz and Paul Choiniere/Cindy Krolikowski in Mopar Stage 3 SRT-4s and Chris Whiteman/Mike Paulin in a Stage 2-powered SRT-4. Intended as a five-stage event with two complete passes to the top of Pike’s Peak, the race was thwarted by three inches of hail on the course toward the top of the mountain, causing the cancellation of the last stage of the race. The SRT-4 driven by Paul Choiniere/Cindy Krolikowski finished fourth overall and first in Group 5 in the Rally segment by 0.7 seconds over Doug Shepherd/Pete Gladysz who finished fifth overall. Doug Shepherd won the Hill Climb segment by 2.0 seconds over Paul Choiniere in the Group 5 Class. Chris Whiteman's SRT-4 finished fourth in Group 5 and 14th overall in the rally. Four-wheel-drive vehicles by Mitsubishi, Subaru and Hyundai finished first, second and third in the rally and hillclimb. Mopar/Dodge and the team of Doug Shepherd and Pete Gladysz now own the Rally Group 5 Pikes Peak Hillclimb record of 12.55 minutes for the 156 corner adventure to the top with an average speed of 59.37 m.p.h. Paul Choiniere won the second stage of the event overall with an average speed of 78 m.p.h. run on the asphalt access road and 3 miles of the hillclimb road, which was run at night over moist conditions intermixed with fog.

wow man you really have a hard-on for you impreza eh? Well what is so significant about a base model impreza that you have to shit all over a base model neon? Nothing really....I have a lot of respect for all cars, but seriously man you come off as an asshole.

Im trying to say that imprezas suck at all, in fact i love em. I'll take two sti's please :biggrin: Just keep in mind that the srt-4 is on to something and yes the reason it IS so cheap is because of the wrong wheel drive...that tin can BS aint gonna fly. look up the one lap of america..an srt took first in its class, as well as mopar's drag team. And well here is some info on mopar's rally team since you say its soo demanding even a tin can neon can't handle it.....
im not trying to come off as an ass but rather trying to give repect where its due.

While I agree the WRX is a better car all around, the SRT4 is a good car as well and deserves respect for what it is.

I said that yesterday, or the day before or maybe early today or something like that. Anyways, I never said it was a bad car. I just don't think it's the best car in it's price range, for the reasons I stated. For people impressed by drag or dyno queens, I'm sure it's great. And from my experience, most SRT4 owners are really cocky about their cars, so I tend to come out with both barrels blazing. I actually have a coupld of SRT4 owning friends in real life.

I said that yesterday, or the day before or maybe early today or something like that. Anyways, I never said it was a bad car. I just don't think it's the best car in it's price range, for the reasons I stated. For people impressed by drag or dyno queens, I'm sure it's great. And from my experience, most SRT4 owners are really cocky about their cars, so I tend to come out with both barrels blazing. I actually have a coupld of SRT4 owning friends in real life.

I hear you you about some owners being cocky....It just puts a bad name on us other owners. oh well what can you do. There are some in every crowd. Given the SRTs price range i bet there are a bit more in ours :lol:

whats up with turbo cars these days seems to me that everyone wants to put their paws on a turbo 4cly what happend to intake and moble 1.......jeeezzzz......forget you turbo heads......lol

:flipa: all u guys who talk so much shit. Why don't ya step into a srt-4 and see for urself that the car is truly magnificent!!! the reason the car is so cheap is because dodge knows how 2 fucken sell. Hasn't it ever occured to you the mitsubishi and subauru are robbing you idiots.:screwy: I mean, look the the chager, the msrp is only about 15k, and even celeberity's have that car with dubs & all that shit. & what's all this talk the srt will not last 100k, yeah// Once my car goes over that 100k, i'm gonna make eat ur fucken words

Maybe we can post with a little more information to prove points, instead of all the hostility... ya think?

And as far as the SRT4 not lasting 100k... I don't own one, but I know for a fact that Mopar built that specific engine (especially the valvetrain and the bottom end) to be able to withstand over 3 times what it actually produces as far as power. In fact, the motor is built for strength, the tranny is proven, the equal-length CV-shafts are built, etc etc... none of the SRT4 drivetrain is the same as a normal Neon. If I had to take reliability, I honestly think a stock SRT4 might just hold up better than a normal Neon, and WELL PAST 100k.

:flipa: all u guys who talk so much shit. Why don't ya step into a srt-4 and see for urself that the car is truly magnificent!!! the reason the car is so cheap is because dodge knows how 2 fucken sell. Hasn't it ever occured to you the mitsubishi and subauru are robbing you idiots.:screwy: I mean, look the the chager, the msrp is only about 15k, and even celeberity's have that car with dubs & all that shit. & what's all this talk the srt will not last 100k, yeah// Once my car goes over that 100k, i'm gonna make eat ur fucken wordsWhy did you post in a thread that was almost 2 years old? Most of the original posters aren't even on here anymore.

Why did you post in a thread that was almost 2 years old? Most of the original posters aren't even on here anymore.

Maybe the only way he can win an argument is if no one is around he he j/k.

I'll say I own a 95 neon for more than five years now. I love it and I''ll never sell. after 2 rebuilts 1st one was a dodge fault 2nd one mine, I think if you want a inexpensive car to mod, the neon is the answer. on the other hand if you like real performance the subaru is the way to go. I only dream to get my hands in a SRT4 because I fell in love with my neon, but I tend to agree with LjasonL on most of what he is posting. neons are economic cars and even tho we love them, they are not close to the performance of an STI or so.
400hp to a FWD=nice drag car.
400hp on a FWD track car= beter get the best suspenssion out there and fine tune it!!!!!!
400hp on a street FWD=suicidal!!!

-I make a sad face and think about all wrecked SRT-4 neons showing on ebay every week-

neons are economic cars and even tho we love them, they are not close to the performance of an STI or so.What did you say :grinyes: ...
http://www.integycorp.com/greg/dom/neondyno.wmv

And I know another guy who just pushed 599HP and 473 lbs of torque out of his first gen neon...
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246626

All you need is some know how and boost!!!

What did you say :grinyes: ...
http://www.integycorp.com/greg/dom/neondyno.wmv

And I know another guy who just pushed 599HP and 473 lbs of torque out of his first gen neon...
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246626

All you need is some know how and boost!!!

power is not all there is about performance.

power is not all there is about performance.

Ha ha ha. Yeah, you're right... it comes down to the driver too. But, anyone that would post what you just said without an explanation, show's immaturity and jealousy.

I out-drove a Mustang GT one night in a 4-cyl Probe because I was getting SHOT AT. Now, don't get me wrong, that was pure adreneline combining with instinct to push that car to it's limits, cornering, braking, etc... but keep in mind at the same time, that there is a VERY fine line between adreneline, skill, and stupidity. You can push any vehicle to the envelope, and make any novice believe in you... but to a veteran, it can look much different. Looking back at some of the fancy driving I did, yes I won, but at the same time I am glad I didn't kill someone or myself, or that a little kid didn't run out in front of me...

But anyway, making that quote and leaving it at that is arrogant. We all know performance applies to EVERYTHING. Don't watch a video of a Neon making more horsepower than yours and posting a quote that simple. I would love to have the $ to put into my Neon to make 300+ hp, but until then, I admire those who do. And let's face it, most people won't build a 300+ hp Neon unless they already know what they are doing. A novice makes a 800 hp Mustang or Skyline and pays someone to do it. A pro builds a 300-400 hp monster out of a used Neon and drives the f*** out of it... so driving skills are almost a given in the Neon category.

And as far as driving SKILLS, I would bet my 150 hp in city driving to anyone's 200 any day, except for a straight-out 1/4-mile. Maybe one of these days, I'll be lucky enough to give myself the chance to drop more hp into my Neon. But until then, I'll smile in admiration of those who do, because I completely understand why... :grinyes:

power is not all there is about performance.True, but they also have modified suspensions and drivetrains!

sheetmagnet you didn't get it. I think das2123 understands better what I said.
and you said that those kids pay someone to midify their cars??? yeah, so what???
don't get me wrong I love neos, but I understand reallity and I'm not going to blind myself from realizing threre are far better cars out there.
I really like the performance package of the SRT-4, but every time I watch a touring turnament, they are far on the winning lists. I think they are extraordinary cars, but side by side a modified neon and a modified subaru are far appart one from the other.

No, I completely understand what you said. Believe me, I don't have anything against the Subaru at all. Stock vs. stock, I think the Subaru is a better package than the SRT4. I think there is also more potential (given the $) for modifying the Subaru over the Neon. Of course then again, I think the Evo's are better stock platforms than both of them...

Maybe I misunderstood, but it just seems like when faced with the big horsepower numbers posted by das', you weren't impressed... maybe the opposite, which I thought was a bit biased against the car. And please don't imsunderstand what I said about modifying the Neon... I am not suggesting that there are a bunch of punk kids out there paying everyone else to do the mods for them. I am sure that some of them are, just like with any car or culture. But the point I was trying to make was that most people that throw 400 or 500 hp into a regular Neon probably are pretty knowledgeable about their car, and have taken the time and payed attention to detail to achieve that. It's not like saying "hey my mustang has 400 hp." Yeah? That's not hard to do... most backyard mechanics can pull that off in one day with a small amount of $. What I was saying was that I have more respect for the guy that can do the same or better with a Neon... cuz you know it's a hell of a lot harder to accomplish.

thank you for your raply. I agree with what you said!!!! I also will like to add that I respect and admire any one that take the time to mod a car I don't care if it is only a few horses what I really like is to see people get passionate about a car....

:lol:

I don't care where you read it. If I make a post that says the Porsche Boxster uses a supercharged Range Rover engine, are you gonna believe that too?

haha, you made this post in that thread:



Uhh... the WRX is about a full second faster than the SRT4 in the 1/4, and the WRX and 350Z are even and it'll come down to the driver.

I would think that some day you'll realize you look like an absolute tool with all the misinformation you try to pass off as fact, but no, it just keeps coming.

Dear ljasonl
i created this account just to retort to the above quote of yours.
so, i proceed with the retorting.
you, ljasonl, my dear friend, you are an automotive fuck-tard. do you really think that a stock for stock 350z can beat a srt4, or that the 350z is anywhere near the sti in performance? because, if you do, then you are truly automotively ignorant. i know , i know, this thread is very old and maybe you grew up a little since this post but just in case you didnt know, let me break it down for you

all times recorded by C&D (that means car and driver little ljasonl they are what we big kids call an automotive magazine and all the editors and journalist are automotive engineers and at one time were professional mechanics or drivers aka they are professionals and are highly skilled, accurate,consistent drivers)

2005 350z 30th ann. edtion with performance 6spd short throw and factory upgraded suspension 0-60 ( 5.8) and 1/4 (14.3)

2005 srt-4 acr 0-60 ( 5.3) and the 1/4 (13.8)

2005 sti 0-60 (4.6) 1/4 mile ( 13.2)

and just in case if you didnt know (because it sure seems like you don't) the wrx and sti are not the same vehicle , that is like calling the mustang gt and the cobra the same vehicle. a stock wrx (not sti) is even with the factory modded 350z and the 350z gets destroyed by a srt4 and the srt4 gets destroyed by the sti. now when you start modding the cars youll find that it really depends on the pockets. and the srt4 comes with a world 2.4l engine and a mitsu turbo, you ignorant fucker.:banghead:
you really suck ass when it comes to arguments too, hope you are not a lawyer or something.
ps
you suck

I was going to delete the above post simply on the fact that you joined just to make the one post...but since you made such just and valid points, I shall leave it be.

well i was never a big fan of chrysler (dodge). but i own a 1986 Ford Mustang SVO that comes with a 2.3 Tubro pushing 200 hp stock and 15 lbs of boost. 17 years after the svo came out dodge put out the srt 4. it pushes the same amount of boost and it has almost the same scope on the hood. well not really but it came from the same idea. the scoop in the SVO goes to the intercooler and the scoop in the srt 4 goes to the turbo. but as all the ford fans love fords they hate dodges and chevy's. but i got to say that the srt 4 is a good car. probably the best of chrysler. i would rather own the srt 4 than the evo. i own a SVO and my dad has a 84 SVO and a srt 4. when i drive the srt 4 it sounds like its got more balls than a honda and even the evo. It threw my against the seat just like my svo.

to devil who said a srt4 wouldnt last past 100k i have 161k on my neon srt4 so i think you were wrong as long as you do regular maintnance like your suppose to a car will last forever

Just love driving this car hope others got the same experience.