My double JL sub box
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P11GT
11-27-2001, 08:15 PM
Here are some pictures of the construction of it. Ive yet to install it in the car, but will post up the finished results here.
P11GT
11-27-2001, 08:16 PM
next bit
P11GT
11-27-2001, 08:17 PM
next bit.....
P11GT
11-27-2001, 08:17 PM
next bit..........
P11GT
11-27-2001, 08:18 PM
next bit.................
P11GT
11-27-2001, 08:21 PM
last one of this series.
P11GT
11-27-2001, 08:22 PM
hmmmmmmm......how come the jpegs arent uploading?? anyone???:confused:
Swonder67
11-27-2001, 09:13 PM
looking good, as usual.
AznVirus
11-27-2001, 09:27 PM
dont forget about me! :D my subs are probably coming in this week, the check cleared last friday.
P11GT
11-28-2001, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by AznVirus
dont forget about me! :D my subs are probably coming in this week, the check cleared last friday.
Dont worry, i haven't:D
dont forget about me! :D my subs are probably coming in this week, the check cleared last friday.
Dont worry, i haven't:D
P11GT
11-29-2001, 04:32 PM
AND HERE IT IS!!!! :D
P11GT
11-29-2001, 04:33 PM
Veiw from the front.
ragt20
11-29-2001, 06:35 PM
:) nice looking box Kev.......whens it going in the car....:hehe:
P11GT
11-29-2001, 07:35 PM
Just as soon as i get the damn car back!!:D
AznVirus
11-29-2001, 09:10 PM
looking damn nice, hope mine turns out as professionally looking as yours. :bloated: putting the terminal on the side or back doesnt matter right? im wondering if i should point them inward or outward?:confused:
frogg
11-29-2001, 09:43 PM
!! Where are all the LED's !!! :( :( :(
P11GT
11-29-2001, 09:47 PM
AH MAN!!! i knew i forgot something:D I might put blue lighting inside the box and have it coming out the ports, good idea???
hybridamp
11-29-2001, 11:58 PM
Very clean looking enclosure, nice design with ports and sub trim.
Should sound well also, what freq did you tune the ports to?
You should be happy with that!
Should sound well also, what freq did you tune the ports to?
You should be happy with that!
frogg
11-30-2001, 12:33 AM
Ya, I think lights would be really cool!
Would match the rest of your car too :D :D
Would match the rest of your car too :D :D
Anthony
11-30-2001, 10:43 AM
Looking good! Have you got the car back yet to install the new sub and test it out?
P11GT
11-30-2001, 12:12 PM
nope:(
SkylinesKillAll
11-30-2001, 04:41 PM
y didnt u make a normal box over the shape u chose?
P11GT
11-30-2001, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by SkylinesKillAll
y didnt u make a normal box over the shape u chose?
Well, the basic idea was to keep as much trunk space as poss, without compromising storage space, and also to get the biggest size box so that i could port it. The ideal box size is 2 CuFt for each sub, so thats 4 CuFt for both, and beleive me, its a damn bog box!! I originally had a double box for the JL's, it come with the second sub i bought off my cousin second hand, but that was just a square sided oblong box, measuring at just over 1.0 CuFt sealed for each sub. I tried it in the trunk and found that it was basically the maximum width, height and depth that i could allow and compromise for, but there was some extra space i could use, and that was the slope of the rear seats. So i set off designing a new box, based on the original one, but included the slope which gave an extra 1.0 CuFt overall. So now each sub has 1.5 CuFt of air space and i can now port them. The old box i used for the single one was 1.5 CuFt and it sounded reallly good, so now ive got TWO really good sounding subs:D I hope this answers your question.
y didnt u make a normal box over the shape u chose?
Well, the basic idea was to keep as much trunk space as poss, without compromising storage space, and also to get the biggest size box so that i could port it. The ideal box size is 2 CuFt for each sub, so thats 4 CuFt for both, and beleive me, its a damn bog box!! I originally had a double box for the JL's, it come with the second sub i bought off my cousin second hand, but that was just a square sided oblong box, measuring at just over 1.0 CuFt sealed for each sub. I tried it in the trunk and found that it was basically the maximum width, height and depth that i could allow and compromise for, but there was some extra space i could use, and that was the slope of the rear seats. So i set off designing a new box, based on the original one, but included the slope which gave an extra 1.0 CuFt overall. So now each sub has 1.5 CuFt of air space and i can now port them. The old box i used for the single one was 1.5 CuFt and it sounded reallly good, so now ive got TWO really good sounding subs:D I hope this answers your question.
P11GT
12-07-2001, 09:35 PM
Following from frogg and Swonders comment, ive been busy again working on the box to make it that little bit better, plus i need a decent boot light, so here it is, MORE LED's!!
Firstly, i had to remove the subs, to remove the ports.
Firstly, i had to remove the subs, to remove the ports.
P11GT
12-07-2001, 09:37 PM
then with each port, i made a collor out of paper, with evenly marked lines for each LED and slid it over the port and marked the holes.
P11GT
12-07-2001, 09:39 PM
After drilling the 4.5mm holes for the 5mm LED's, i then sprayed the ports with silver car paint. Then inserted the LEDs ready for wiring.
P11GT
12-07-2001, 09:40 PM
heres a close up.
P11GT
12-07-2001, 09:41 PM
Next came the wiring, and as before, i wired them in set of 3 then paralleled them onto 12 volts.
P11GT
12-07-2001, 09:43 PM
And heres how it looks powered up.
note. yes i know, i did use blue and white cable, this is because thats all i had lying around.
note. yes i know, i did use blue and white cable, this is because thats all i had lying around.
P11GT
12-07-2001, 09:44 PM
Lastly, i then repeated everything for all 4 ports, re-assembled everything and powered it up. Heres the finished product.
sorry, forgot ther pic, next page please:D
sorry, forgot ther pic, next page please:D
P11GT
12-07-2001, 09:47 PM
Oooops! helps if i do this:D
P11GT
12-07-2001, 09:47 PM
Well......whatcha think???
Swonder67
12-07-2001, 11:12 PM
That'll go great with your new rear bumper and front end. :o)
Mrcoilover
12-08-2001, 10:05 AM
You should be winning some SHOWS about any time now. Man you really know what you're doing. Seems we have similar taste in the sub area. Are those W6's?
P11GT
12-08-2001, 11:05 AM
Yep, sure are. both 12W6's. I originally just had the one, but a good opportunity come along, and i got the other second hand at less than half price:D
b-b00gie
12-08-2001, 11:55 AM
Wow, you definately have some passion and creativity.
I'm not sure what line of work you're currently in, but its time to quit your day job!
Great job.. again! :)
I'm not sure what line of work you're currently in, but its time to quit your day job!
Great job.. again! :)
frogg
12-08-2001, 12:57 PM
Holy.. That looks better than I could have ever imagined.
Another good job! :)
Another good job! :)
ragt20
12-08-2001, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by b-b00gie
Wow, you definately have some passion and creativity.
I'm not sure what line of work you're currently in, but its time to quit your day job!
Great job.. again! :)
He runs a restaurent if I can remeber correctly.........
Kev that sub looks awesome.....top job m8......http://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gifhttp://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gif
Wow, you definately have some passion and creativity.
I'm not sure what line of work you're currently in, but its time to quit your day job!
Great job.. again! :)
He runs a restaurent if I can remeber correctly.........
Kev that sub looks awesome.....top job m8......http://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gifhttp://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gif
P11GT
12-08-2001, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by ragt20
He runs a restaurent if I can remeber correctly.........
Not quite G, i have my own Chinese takeaway, its a family thing.
He runs a restaurent if I can remeber correctly.........
Not quite G, i have my own Chinese takeaway, its a family thing.
AznVirus
12-09-2001, 04:55 PM
looking good, where did you put all the wiring for the leds to? did you just splice it into the sub wiring?
P11GT
12-09-2001, 08:47 PM
On page 1, there is a picture of the side of the box showing the double terminal ive used on the box. Because of the way ive wired up the subs, i actually only need one set of terminals to power the subs, therefore i have used the other set to power the LEDs. Theres a boot courtesy light nearby, which i can hook it up to. All the wiring for the LEDs are internal as the LEDs are. I just drilled a small hole thru the partition to feed the wires from one air spcae to the other, then sealed up the hole.
nismo_gt
12-10-2001, 03:06 PM
Kev man, that box looks the dogs bo**ocks
Nice to see the digital camera working overtime ! :D
Nice to see the digital camera working overtime ! :D
P11GT
12-18-2001, 08:53 AM
Heres the box all finished and installed, along with the split charging system, which i need cos im always flatening the car battery.
nismo_gt
12-18-2001, 03:41 PM
Looks sweet :coolguy:
Swonder67
12-18-2001, 09:59 PM
Don't the magnets from the speakers touch the sub when you close the trunk? Or, "boot" as you call it.
nis.k.a.
12-19-2001, 01:08 AM
What kind of amp do you have running those? I'm assuming you wired them in series.
Anthony
12-19-2001, 08:04 AM
How come you decided to relocate the battery to the boot? Or is that a second battery? Do you get any problems with the stock alternator charging them both if that is the case?
P11GT
12-19-2001, 09:52 AM
Nah, it looks kinda close doesnt it? but theres about an inch clearence between the magnet and box, plus, ive recessed the subs, so they actually sit flush. The excursion of the subs aint that much so hothing to worry about.
Heres a picture of the back of the box, and how ive made it to maximise the room available, its a bit blurry but you get the message.
Heres a picture of the back of the box, and how ive made it to maximise the room available, its a bit blurry but you get the message.
nis.k.a.
12-19-2001, 06:27 PM
Excursion depends on the power put to them. JL's have one of the longest excursion's in the business.
P11GT
12-19-2001, 08:01 PM
maybe, the excursion (Xmax) on my JL's are 0.438 iches or 11.9 mm so theres plenty room there. In my experience, Celestion subs have a bigger excursion length, as apposed to my JL's
nis.k.a.
12-19-2001, 08:46 PM
Really?.....My 10w6's (in old G20) knocked the grilles straight off the box. Not just PLOP.....more like shot them off the box. I measured about 1 and 1/4" from woofer to grille. I don't know if you've ever seen the JL demo where you apply progressive frequency to the woofer. Those suckers will jump a good 1 and 1/2" to 1 and 3/4".
I take that back. It would throw 1 and 1/4" to 1 and 1/2". I just measured 1 and 3/4" that was way off.
I take that back. It would throw 1 and 1/4" to 1 and 1/2". I just measured 1 and 3/4" that was way off.
Swonder67
12-19-2001, 11:46 PM
I guess it just depends on how much bass boost you set your amp at.
nis.k.a.
12-20-2001, 12:59 AM
More like how much power your amp is putting out. Maxed out gains sound nasty.
Mrcoilover
12-20-2001, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by P11GT
Heres a picture of the back of the box, and how ive made it to maximise the room available, its a bit blurry but you get the message.
If I'm not mistaken, the soundwaves are supposed to bounce of the back of the trunk. Wouldn't having the subs so close to the magnet or top of the trunk distort the sound? It has no room to travel and create optimum bass.
Heres a picture of the back of the box, and how ive made it to maximise the room available, its a bit blurry but you get the message.
If I'm not mistaken, the soundwaves are supposed to bounce of the back of the trunk. Wouldn't having the subs so close to the magnet or top of the trunk distort the sound? It has no room to travel and create optimum bass.
P11GT
12-20-2001, 11:36 AM
nope.
Mrcoilover
12-20-2001, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by P11GT
nope.
I don't know. I really don't think your getting the best bass out of those JL's. But the set-up is nice and as long as your getting the thump then it's all good. I guess you can't keep W6's from sounding bad. But the thing I said about the soundwave travel is very true indeed. You probably don't notice but the sound from your 6x9's or whatever is above the subs is distorted by the bass from the subs. Looks good. I can tell you like LED's.
nope.
I don't know. I really don't think your getting the best bass out of those JL's. But the set-up is nice and as long as your getting the thump then it's all good. I guess you can't keep W6's from sounding bad. But the thing I said about the soundwave travel is very true indeed. You probably don't notice but the sound from your 6x9's or whatever is above the subs is distorted by the bass from the subs. Looks good. I can tell you like LED's.
nis.k.a.
12-20-2001, 06:30 PM
Standard square boxes should be avoid. His set up is good for the way his car is designed. I also found that my 10W6's are best utilized by the woofer shooting straight up and not "bouncing" off the back of the trunk like most people think. Enclosures are for optimum use of the speaker, in different ranges (sealed, ported). But the facing the enclosure towards the trunk is not always the answer. I also messed with my JL enclosure to get the best sound out of it. Shooting straight up was indeed the answer for my G20. Facing rearward, you only were able to hear the lower frequencies; it sound pretty shitty.
Mrcoilover
12-21-2001, 10:01 AM
No soundwave travel, no soundwave travel, no soundwave travel. I'm right, you're wrong. j/k
I got my info from many car audio stores.
I got my info from many car audio stores.
nis.k.a.
12-21-2001, 03:53 PM
soundwave travel differs between all cars.:D
Mrcoilover
12-21-2001, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by nis.k.a.
soundwave travel differs between all cars.:D
True, but we have a big trunk and the rule still applies.:D
soundwave travel differs between all cars.:D
True, but we have a big trunk and the rule still applies.:D
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