How I hate the Focus...

Im sorry but I hate this car... I really wish someone would tell me something impressive in any means that would justify the dorky looks of this horrible car....

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Yeah..It is pretty goofy looking. But think of it this way, at least its not as bad as that Echo..

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Mike
1991 Black Dodge Stealth R/T TT

Definitely can't touch the Echo in terms of dorkiness!

I kinda like the hatchback, kinda, but really dislike the rest (I just have a soft spot for hatches :D)

Once the Focus RS is upon us, all will change..

As a Service Tech in a Ford dealership, I love this car. I wouldnt own one myself, but the simple fact that it has replaced the Contour makes me love the car. A lot easier to work on , and a lot less problems

Hey well now that the SVT focus is coming out it will go to 60 in an impressive 7.0 seconds...Thats what they reported. Which would make it a pocket rocket...However i still don't like the looks.

They should produce a focus that looks like Ford's Focus GT(I think that's what it is) concept. That car looked sweet, even for a Focus.

the focus is a great example of a ugly car with good marketing and maybe some subliminal messages. Otherwise I don't understand why someone would buy one

Well, I'll agree with everybody. The focus is one DAMN ugly car, but I've just recently seen one that I really really like. They showed on on TV, it was at the Detroit car show, I think, But they had made the hatchback into a cube van design, and I tell you, impractical as they come, and it doesn't sound like to would change it enough to make it look good, but it did. If anybody finds a picture, they should post it. I'd like to see what everybody thinks.

I'm not a big fan of them either, especially the sedan (ick!). However, at the Ford dealer I'm currently working at, they modified one that is now for sale. A black hatchback with a subtle bodykit, small spoiler at the top of the back window(Dodge Caravan Sport style), custom exhaust (rumbly, not weedeater), cold air intake, 5-speed, tinted windows. It's actually really nice (and sounds good driving by). 16 inch 6-spokers and lowered suspension as well.

Yeah it is ugly as hell ....i never thought that i would ever like a focus ..but their is one it was in car and driver or something ....but it had 300hp and it was decked out . The only time i can ever say that it was actually nice

i think it's ok looking, but it's a ford which makes it awful

at the seattle auto show my Dad convinced me to sit in it. It was comfy [the sporty one i sat it], but i sure hope noone saw me sitting in a cheap Ford!

It is ugly and slow it is the biggest POS I see on the road. :D

Let's just say it has potential. (hatchback only)

I would take a Focus coupe or hatchback over the slightly more highly regarded 2001 Civic. They look the same, so I would rather have the Ford.

I like Foci. I bought one and it has been great!

Originally posted by honda_guy
I would take a Focus coupe or hatchback over the slightly more highly regarded 2001 Civic. They look the same, so I would rather have the Ford.

Focus Coupe??? That might actually look good....

No offense to the Civic lovers here, but i'd take Focus over Civic anyday, it looks much better.

I'd take one like this:

Well you could only see what the rest of the world has to offer in the name FOCUS you would probalby look for you nearest Ford dealer. I myself love and live by Honda! I have owned 3 Accords 2 used 1 new. I will now own a Focus completely loaded ALL OPTIONS under $15,000 delivered! HELLO? Civic? Neon? (my wife has a new one) Civis 127hp Neon 135?(where?) Where is Hondas' World Rally Car? Where is Dodges'? Oh yeah and for Subaru WRX, well maybe you should look up the Colin McCrea and Martini Racing. Ford ahs been racing in more forums than you priceless Chevy, Dodge, Subaru, Porsche, Nissan(owned a 280 and loved it), Ferrari(PUKE) and Lambo lovers. You want to see real performance look over in Shelbyville Homer there is life outside of Springfield and they are ready to eat you V8! Mits EVO series is coming to America if the WRX sells good and I know a lot of pissed off NSX owners that will not take their cars out on weekends to be terrorized by some EVO VII or a Pug 206WRC that cost half as much and can't even go light to light! So when I return to the states with my Focus RS, Please IF I beat you in an unlawful street race don't come after my car, it just did what it was told to do and what it was bred for racing. World Rally Car Rules! Long live small cars with big HP and all wheel drive. Oh yeah here is a pic of the Focus RS at Nurnburgring GE stretching its legs!

didn't take Well will not let me attach it. Hope this will give some people the ability to look outside to what else is in the world. I have talked to a few people with Audi's and they did not know that the A4 came with a V8 here in Europe! 3.6sec 0-100KPH(61MPH) STATIONWAGON! Lets see a Porsche feed a family of 5 in one trip!

Oh, I've already looked...I'm deep into European and Japanese home market models. I like Focii now. Except the sedans. Europe has a 5-door hatchback, like the ZX3, only with 2 more doors. WRC rules.

Now. Some people (not me, but that's irrelevant) happen to like V8 American cars, even if they are slower. That's their opinion and they are entitled to it. You have yours, and I respect it. Just keep that in mind next time you post, please...we don't want flames here.

As for that wagon...I'm assuming you mean the RS4. It has a 2.7 twin turbo V6, not a V8, and Audi claims 4.9 0-100. If there is a different, faster model, please enlighten me. :D

That Focus coupe idea inspired me....it has a few rough spots, but I tried. :D

Well like I said there IS such a monster HERE IN EUROPE. I hav talked to a lot of Audi people and they all say the same thing. No it doesn't exist, well IT DOES. I live in Europe and for the last 5 years have been enlightened on how much we Americans get left out on the good stuff! NA get a gas motor AllRoad while the europeans get a diesel and gas motor for the allroad. Trust me when I say that NO RS4 can pull away from my BMW with that kinda speed. I have only see that with Ruf Porsche, BB512 Ferrarri, and Lambos and 1 McClearan F1. I will look for some pics for the RS4+4 at Audi next week after I pick up my new Focus I have been waiting for for 5 months now on Monday.

What kind of Focus are you getting? Ghia? Zetec? Etc...

Getting a ZX3 with all options except Advance-trac and Automatic and US specs not european. Hope to keep it a year and sell it to buy an RS or a Cossie Focus. I am in Germany checking out all the Ford shows they have in Europe this year.

in response to this quote from adam:
"i think it's ok looking, but it's a ford which makes it awful

at the seattle auto show my Dad convinced me to sit in it. It was comfy [the sporty one i sat it], but i sure hope noone saw me sitting in a cheap Ford!"

Are you that much of a yuppie? What a way to embarass yourself to the web public.

Well, 90% chance he's either a GM lover or an import lover. That should explain it.

Its possible that he's a yuppie, but I kind of doubt it.

A yuppie or a "Brand Whore".

'79 Town Car....hmm...got any pics? :D

dude.. focus replaced the escort, not contour. Infact if you dig deep and find someone made an article in 1998 about the next escort.. and they decided to change the name to gain more support from the aftermarket. I live in the US.. and im sick of seeing my money go overseas.. so THANK F'n GOD a domestic is out that can finally own its class here in the usa.. I Love automotive technology, but id hate to see my hard earned money(yes mommy or daddy didnt buy my car for me) go elsewhere just so people can be unique and drive an "import"

People would be shocked to know how many motors are engineered in the us, and by US companies.. then sold under an import name. Be happy that ford is pushing something that is NOT a gas guzzling POS.. like every other company.. they don't even promote the mustang as much.. which is completely diffrent than a focus.

If you really are a car buff.. and you really are pasionate about technology, performance, and all the other goodies.. stop being so biased. Theres not enough time.. and to many good ideas!

my friend has one running a supercharger and nitrous ... 211hp 180lbft..

http://www.fiero.nl/uploads/hocusspray.jpg

another is just running nitrous and has been for over 30,000 165hp 225lbft 13.8@102

the s/c cars owner works at a dyno tuner shop here in atl. the other nitrous only and myself just work there part time (weekends as-needed)

I own a focus Sedan and I love it
there is lots of stuff out there for the focus and they can be just as fast as any other car
I also don't know any car in the US that handles as well as the focus for under 15K
No one thing I will say is that the DOT focus looks really bad
the euro focus got much better bumpers and tail lights along with lots of other goodies that ford left off the DOT focus
my plan stick the euro bumpe on my focus and improve the looks 100% maybe even the RS kit(not the bumper on the focus RS)

By the way good to see someone I know(Jinstall) from www.focaljet.com

:flipa: What's wrong with the focus? Ya'll just dont know what youre missing!

You all say that the focus is fugly, well. . . . . . . . you're right. But If I had to pick I would say the Aztec is the winner of the award for fugly car of the year with the echo in a close second, and the focus in third.

Originally posted by 1FST2M6
my friend has one running a supercharger and nitrous ... 211hp 180lbft..

another is just running nitrous and has been for over 30,000 165hp 225lbft 13.8@102

the s/c cars owner works at a dyno tuner shop here in atl. the other nitrous only and myself just work there part time (weekends as-needed)

I would have to say those figures are pretty crappy. No offense. But supercharged with nitrous and he can barely pull more than 200 HP. I only have a turbo my car, which is stock, and I can pull 205 HP and 240 ftlb.

A focus is not focused on performance I see.

those numbers are crap
A friend of mine who is down the street has his up to 180 at the wheels all N/A tunning

the Jackson racing super chager should get you to at least 220hp at the flywheel, whithout nitrous

and the supercharger kits get to to 240(flywheel) and up

you want real info go to www.teamfocaljet.com

You know, The Focus hatchback has really grown on me since I last posted in this thread. Maybe it was all the World Rally Championship coverage Speedvision has been showing ;).

Originally posted by Polygon
A focus is not focused on performance I see.

As far as I know, neither are its competitors. Besides, except for two people, everyone I see driving a Focus is a middle-aged man or woman. Same with the 2001+Civic(which also resembles a Focus).

I drive a focus and I am only 18

Originally posted by focalBlur
I drive a focus and I am only 18

Yeah, but what I meant to say was that Ford knew exactly who the majority of potential Focus buyers would be, and that there was a helluva good chance they wouldnt bitch about a lack of power(middle aged people looking for a commuter car).

I'm twenty and I have a ZX3. Most of the people around where I live who drive foci are younger..it's pretty popular. :rolleyes:

Hate to pop you Fuckus owners out there's bubble...

But the Fuckus is the biggest POS Ford has EVER rolled off a production line

00 SE
Z-tech motor
40,000 miles

Gave the pile of worthless shit back to Ford. I've owned Escorts and Pinto's that I was happier with.

That car did NOTHING exceptional, and most stuff was well below mediocre..

What a waste of metal and money.

and how does that make you feel? LMAO.. if your so pissy about your car get a honda or a POSaturn.

Actually, my 95 SW2 has been the best car I ever owned.. And it ate Honda's (non V-tech) for a snack. And got 36 mpg while doing it.. :D

my wife got a new 97 SC2 and wen tthrough 3 entirely new "power modules" in the 4 years she had it.. she's got a 01 TDI New beetle now.. best car we've owned!! 50mpg, 160hp/235lbft at the wheels.. god i love that thing... just wish i didn't look so girly driving it..

Removing the flower from the little flower vase would help!!!!

:p :p :p :p :D :D

I´ve got the hatchback but Have to admit that i like the sedan very much too. Anywise there´s not one thing, but lots of things that makes this car great. NO WONDER IS THE #1 VEHICLE IN SALES IN THE WORLD

Originally posted by Euro19
. NO WONDER IS THE #1 VEHICLE IN SALES IN THE WORLD
I thought that honour belonged to the Toyota Corolla or VW Golf, and I'm sure the Holden Astra sells more units.....

No no no, I´m sure the Focus is #1 in sales worldwide, I just read it in the MotorTrend magazine, I´ll scan the page for you as soon I find this damn magazine I don´t know where I put it. :eek:

You know, a buddy of mine has a 2000 Focus ZX3 hatch. Forget how many miles he has on it, but not that many. Under 40k still.

Spends it's life in the dealership. He typically puts on 20k -per year-. Every time he turns around, SES light is on or the car isn't running right. Three different dealerships have been through the thing, and he already got two or three PCMs, and a whole new -cylinder head- when it started making valvetrain noise. That's not including seven cam position sensors and that thing for the exhaust cam variable timing.

Personally, I'd never touch one of those. I'm done buying Fords anyways.. that pissed off that they killed the Escort, still unhappy about the 96-97 redesign and subsequent elimination of anything resembling performance. :P

GoinRallyin!
-95 Escort HB - KitFox Rally MkIII
-01 Silverado 2500HD

Yeah I don´t like the 1997 restyling of the Escort either. They should have keep the Escort and brought the Focus as a non replacement for it.

Originally posted by GoinRallyin


Spends it's life in the dealership. He typically puts on 20k -per year-. Every time he turns around, SES light is on or the car isn't running right. Three different dealerships have been through the thing, and he already got two or three PCMs, and a whole new -cylinder head- when it started making valvetrain noise. That's not including seven cam position sensors and that thing for the exhaust cam variable timing.



Sounds to me like the dealership is the problem. I have seen virtually no engine/emission problems from this car. I hate the car, but mechanically, it seems very sound.

I still think the focus is the best under 18K car that money car buy and it's even better then most $20K cars out there


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Focalblur:

I would have to thoroughly disagree with you. I have owned other vehicles that were well under 20g's new that I was far more satisfied with, that were in most aspects superior to the Focus.

i am talking about car currently on the market
the only other car i can think of the would compare is the mazda protege

Yes, I am talking about cars currently on the market too.

what would you compare it to then?

Hyundai
Saturn
Malibu
Grand Am
Just to name a few.

Originally posted by Tireburner
Hyundai
Saturn
Malibu
Grand Am
Just to name a few.

personally the only car on that list that I think can compete is Hyundai

I do no like anything GM produces with the exception of SAAB, every experience with a GM car I have had has been negative

Wow! I see the e-mail pop up with your reply.. I keep opening it waiting for a flame... and there is none... Thank You!!

Hyundai has come a long way, and I must congratulate them.

As far as GM goes, I am impressed with both the cars I listed. Longevity still hasn't been proven for the new models, but I don't see a lot of owners complaining about them, so they can't be too bad

Although Saturn is under the GM corporate umbrella, I don't consider them as a part ... probably because the vast difference in dealer experiences... anyway, when I purchase another new car it will be either an S series or an L Series. Saturn won my loyalty with all aspects of ownership. I don't know why I strayed and tried the Focus, probably because I have been a long time Ford owner, and loyal Ford fan. Love my F-150.. hated that Focus.

Originally posted by focalBlur
I still think the focus is the best under 18K car that money car buy and it's even better then most $20K cars out there


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No wonder is #1 in sales worldwide.
Other big rivals are the Nissan Sentra, VW Jetta, Daewoo Nubira, Mitsubishi new Lancer, in USA and worldwide too (there´s some more too)

An even more refined Ford Focus for 2002/3 :eek: :D

too bad the USA wont ever see those changes :(

ours stays the same untill the total redesign in 2004.5