How I hate the Focus...

Gee I wonder why Automobile Magazine has had the Focus as one of it's 10 Best cars since it came out. Does anyone know why this atrocity has happened?:eek: :D

Ford Could always design the Focus to look like this I guess.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=72030

Originally posted by sohowcome
Ford Could always design the Focus to look like this I guess.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=72030
That must be Uncle Ben's car.

hehhehe:frog: my uncle benny wouldnt be caught dead in that........

Originally posted by tommy saleen
Gee I wonder why Automobile Magazine has had the Focus as one of it's 10 Best cars since it came out. Does anyone know why this atrocity has happened?:eek: :D

Between the good press of the European Focus (which is a different car), and their limited test time with the vehicle, it is easily feasable.

Give them the POS and make them drive it as a family car for 40,000 miles, and they will slap themselves for being so stupid!!

i'm just wondering does anyone realize for the cost of a focus you can get a nice like 92 vette. Hell i just bought a mint condition 94 for 15,000

Now that´s a stupid comparison, a 10 year old Corvette to a brand new Focus? Did you think about people need the SPACE to carry FIVE people and a NICE DESIGN with all the EQUIPMENT??

I'll tell you why the North American Focus sucks, cause the real Focus is being sold in Europe with AWD and 300HP.



http://supercars.ifn.cx/focuscosworth/picture11.jpg
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/lancia/58/gallery/ford/focus_cosworth_front.jpg

This one is the RS version
http://www.focusrs.net/pictures/focus_rs_04.jpg

To all those guys who trashed the Focus in the looks department:
Do you think that this is ugly as well??

http://personal3.iddeo.es/marcus/cata/puma/imatges/gran5.jpg

http://pumagr1.l33t.ca/images/mp1.jpg

Take a look at www.ferociousfocus.com These are fun critters to play with.:D

Originally posted by p1700
To all those guys who trashed the Focus in the looks department:
Do you think that this is ugly as well??




actually, that is hideous. I like the focus' looks. its a great car, but that is an atrocity

would ther ebe a possioble way to (wow i can't believe i'm going to use this term while talkign about a ford...) import, the 300hp awd focusd to headquarters here in the good ol' USA? please say yes... anyway we TD'd the SVT today, i don't care what you haters think, it was pretty nice... later

i also got a focus about a month ago (zx3 (hatchback) dark grey), great handling, not very fast but that'll change. One of the best things about it is the legroom, I'm 6'5" and i fit in it perfectly. My head would be out of the sunroof if i had a civic or almost any other compact or sports car. What cars do you all have that are so amazing, that makes the focus a piece of shit that cost under 15 brand new w/ power everything?

Originally posted by p1700
To all those guys who trashed the Focus in the looks department:
Do you think that this is ugly as well??

http://personal3.iddeo.es/marcus/cata/puma/imatges/gran5.jpg

http://pumagr1.l33t.ca/images/mp1.jpg

thats an ugly POS! IMO, it resembles an older Hyundai Tiburon, and that isnt even right. they are nice cars, i guess, but that shit is UGLY

I just bought a 2001 Ford Focus SE Sport sedan about four months ago and it's great fun terrorizing all kinds of expensive machinery when the going gets twisty!! It's not too fast by any stretch but it handles like a dream!! (I also own a 1970 Pontiac Parisienne with a factory 300hp 350 that's exactly the opposite - real snarly in a straight line, not so much in a curve - lucky it's like 4000 lbs so traction's not a problem). I didn't much like the Foci at first, but the styling grew on me, especially the sedan, which looks good in silver with the alloys and spoiler. Those make a big improvement over the cheap-ass Focus LXs. Pretty decent factory stereo too, for an economy car. Lots of interior/trunk space, much better than Neon/Cav/Civic. As a matter of fact, my wife's ex-boss had a brand-new 2002 Civic coupe GIVEN to him as a company car, and he hates it SO much he wants to trade it for our Focus!! I told him to keep his junk LOL!!!

Wow..Well anyway I have a ZX3 and I love it! :flash: :flash: :smoka:

There is nothing ugly about it..

I guess people using the words "Focus" and "Quality" in the same sentence have never heard of an oxymoron!

13 recalls to date. 'Nuf said.

Focus, that's what should be written on the walls of the design office at Ford, so designers can remember to focus on what they're doing. The Focus is pretty high priced for a domestic car put together with bungee cords. How embarrasing. The focus already has 14 recalls, just follow this link if you think I'm just some basher:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2002-11-04-focus-recall_x.htm

http://consumeraffairs.com/news02/ford_focus.html



FORD: QUANTITY IS JOB ONE. how pathetic, not even GM is this bad:mad:

Just remember, however, the TYPES of recalls some of those are: an A-pillar trim clip, Sony Subwoofer defect, etc. Then think of the manufacturers that HIDE their recalls, or don't admit it. Look at the Mitsubishi fiasco, where there were 30 years of complaints hidden away in a locker. Look at VW, who finally had to admit a long standing problem with their coil packs, that could strand owners or cause fires, and their window regulators, that took 5 years to redesign a simple clip. I'd rather see a company redesign a part and retrofit it, than one that steadfastly refuses to admit their cars have problems.

I know more than enough Focus owners who have no problems with their cars. A recall does not mean the car WOULD have that problem, but that the factory thought it might, so redesigned the part.

For example, the SVT Focus only had one recall, for a throttle cable/cruise control cable that could stick. The recall affected less than 600 cars, most of which got fixed before they even hit the dealerships. Most Focii have had the required work done to them, and should not be problematic for their owners.

Originally posted by Adam
i think it's ok looking, but it's a ford which makes it awful

at the seattle auto show my Dad convinced me to sit in it. It was comfy [the sporty one i sat it], but i sure hope noone saw me sitting in a cheap Ford!

You must be a highly biased person to refer to "fords" as awful vehicles. An uneducated person would say aweful, when someone who is educated would just simply say "GT40" maybe. Lets take a look at the Le Mans history....Ford beat Ferrari so bad they QUIT!!!! I dont see you saying Ferraris are aweful...Speaking of quit, if Ford were so horrible, dont you think they would have stopped production in the last century sometime? I mean, they are only the longest standing vehicles in the production line. I bought an '88 Mustang with 153,000 miles on it when I was 16 and was waxing greeenwood edition Corvettes, and various other cars, without any maintenance! I have since sold the vehicle and purchased another mustang, a focus, and a limited explorer, all without issue. On another note, if the Foc sucks so bad, then why are there more body kits being produced for the ford Focus the the famed HONDA CIVIC??? (courtesy of import tuner!!!!) Think before you speak, it was a hard lesson for me to learn...

Hey i drive a focus. its the sport version or whatever (ya know with the spoiler and all) and i think for the price of 'em they're pretty good cars. I like the looks of 'em. this is my second car. and i'm only 15. (lol my parents bought both of my cars hehehe) i think thats saying alot about the price and stuff like that. they run good and last and everything. so stop dissin on 'em! : flipa :

the focus is a great car. there are three main complaints i here about the focus. the first two are its ugly and its slow, thats because ford basically needed to replace the ageing contour and escort. although the current focus is slow the future is bright. already in california and maybe other states i'm not sure you can get a much faster 2.3L engine and in 2005 the focus will get a face lift. the third complaint is that the us version uses cheaper parts than the european version but i would still put it up against any 4cyl dodge or gm has. soon the "tec" battles will heat up as the zetec becomes a competitor. down with the vtec! :smile:

u cant put th focus down, its the only car that if u look back on still looks newish, think of all the s regs out there ibn the uk that look so young? ;)

gollum

the ford focus is a nice domestic car but if ur wanting a good car that will beat the fcuk out of anything then dont get 1, they r shit.

there have been a few zx3s that people have put v8s in.

ur talking shite hinds, the focus is fuly modifiable, u can get up to a 2.0 litre engine, and modifying is very good, u can add loads of stuff to the focus, so dont think it cant beat the shit out of anything, once ive finished with mine itll thrash yours biatch!

tvr

you can get a 2.3L in california.

niiice u gotta pic, btw not suprised th americans fuckin eat all the worlds fuel anyhow :(

gollum

Thrash my Supra, my arse......... It just so happens i can get a Supra for 8,000, a focus against a Supra only a dumbass would say the focus would win!

supras suck, id thrash u if i was in a 2.3 focus supachipped 2 th fuck

tvr

Unbelievable how brainwashed people are over this POS.

My 91 Escort GT will run circles around the Focus (I owned one) The Escort handles better, stops better, gets better gas mileage, rides better, the motor is quieter, and guess what!?

The 1.8L in the Escort out runs ever Fuckus on the road.

As you sit there with this look on your face:eek7: and get ready to dispute me, I will tell you straight up that the American Focus is mis geared. That's why the Escort out runs it.

Yes, you can do a lot of mods to the Fuckus, but the racing engines that have been built around the 1.8L doch Mazda motor are endless, and far less expensive than that boat anchor Ford calls a Focus..

Yeah- if Fords focus was on building a real American front driver that can keep up with the competition, someone needs to change their eyeglass perscription, cause they sorely miss the mark by a long shot.

I had, a terrible 2000 Lx-4door, but have driven a 03 similar and is was ok, and why can't we get the european stuff over here?
The IKON thing based on it is supposed to be here in 05, maybe that'll be better , and may have SOME resale value too

the focus, in my opinion, is fords lame attempt to compete with some of the import people such as honda. they are so similer to the civic,imo, its uncanny. i mean i would take a honda civic ex over any ford focus just because they are such big pieces of crap.

Ford sucks!!!!!!!! The Focus sucks!!!!!!!!!! The Dodge SRT-4 Rocks!!!!!!!!! :rofl:

I am an automotive consultant to law firms in lemon law cases and to this day, I have been involved in more Ford Focus cases than any other vehicle. That should tell you something.

Kurt Clark
http://www.kurtclark.com

Unbelievable how brainwashed people are over this POS.

My 91 Escort GT will run circles around the Focus (I owned one) The Escort handles better, stops better, gets better gas mileage, rides better, the motor is quieter, and guess what!?

The 1.8L in the Escort out runs ever Fuckus on the road.

As you sit there with this look on your face:eek7: and get ready to dispute me, I will tell you straight up that the American Focus is mis geared. That's why the Escort out runs it.

Yes, you can do a lot of mods to the Fuckus, but the racing engines that have been built around the 1.8L doch Mazda motor are endless, and far less expensive than that boat anchor Ford calls a Focus..

Yeah- if Fords focus was on building a real American front driver that can keep up with the competition, someone needs to change their eyeglass perscription, cause they sorely miss the mark by a long shot.



I will ESCORT you to the finish line anyday in my Focus! You said that your motor is quieter? Why would you want a quieter motor in a fast car? You are boring. Can you out run a probe GT? (the turbo) I can, and I can out run you in your little Escort clown car.

Last year I saw a Focus on the side of the road, I stopped to help the woman because the wheel had fallen off!!! I got the spare but I couldn't put it on!! The original wheel had come off along with the hub and the bearing!! :nono: what the hell is Ford doing? This car was only a year old!!!

Last year I saw a Focus on the side of the road, I stopped to help the woman because the wheel had fallen off!!! I got the spare but I couldn't put it on!! The original wheel had come off along with the hub and the bearing!! :nono: what the hell is Ford doing? This car was only a year old!!!


I have to admit, the focus has had it's problems. I guess I have been lucky with mine. It is soooo much fun to drive. I wish Ford would get their act together and fix some of the weird problems with the Focus!

I have to admit, the focus has had it's problems. I guess I have been lucky with mine. It is soooo much fun to drive. I wish Ford would get their act together and fix some of the weird problems with the Focus!

The problem is that the "bean counters" at Ford have too much control over he company. If the company was run by sport enthusiasts...it would be a different story.

The problem is that the "bean counters" at Ford have too much control over he company. If the company was run by sport enthusiasts...it would be a different story.

Amen to that! They could learn a lot just by cruising through this forum, don't ya think?

Amen to that! They could learn a lot just by cruising through this forum, don't ya think?

Totally...someone send Edsel an e-mail!

Dont think I would recomend a focus to anybody.Bought a 03 zx3 premium 3 months ago,shortest honymoon I've had with any car.Nothing but problems. :banghead:

i will beat you all in my .... Aspire!

olny a select few understand who the focus was aimed for in the begining ... middle aged people who drive 85mi per day to work and back. if you wanted performance get a vette, stang, 911, lotas elise, gti, gt-40, ...

Haters , haters , no offense to but the US spec focus is SHT. Go to Europe and you be stanned . The Euro spec focus's look better and get much more BHP. You can even get REAR wheel drive conversions. That right. The EUROPEAN FOCUS RS (218bhp)(0-60MPH 5.9sec) this car comes standard with Sparco interior , 18X9 RIMS bi-xenon lights etc it would crash US SVT everyway. If the model below the RS the ST would below. If you think the SPORTS COMPACT is hard site side. Go to euro theirs a long list of motors the BLOW in if the brought to the States.The compact in posh inside and run like MotherFers.here a few compacts that are blazing euro Vauxhall (corsa,Astra),SEAT (ibiza,leon), Renault (CLIO, Megane) ,Alfa (147,156/157) etc. The dogde Neon is [email protected] by the way just because your FOCUS version is trash doesnt mean its the same on the other side.

But a motor like Mustang would sell out in EURO cause they are many affordable rear drive motor.But ugly interior.

And Citroen SAXO, MG ZR160/180,PEUGOUT 206/306/7 ETC

Americans are all the same. You lot need to come to the UK and you'll see what a focus can do. Its fast, it handles, its gorgeous and can only be appreciated by someone who can drive properly, which outlaws most people!?!

a us focus and a euro focus are essentualy 2 different cars w/ the same apperance and name, you really cant compair them

dont bring up old posts guys....

All i have to say is look up the thread in this forum entitled "Inferiority of Focus?" to see my opinion this little car.

I'll drive nothing else in the compact market. When i make my millions, i will have a ZX5 with a 5.0L V8 and rear-drive conversion, available from Ford. I'll pick on BMW's infamous M5 with that set-up!

:devil:

20k+ to run 11's? what ar eyou retarded? get a 89lx mustang, full build up and SC and you in 11's under 20k. puting a v8 in a focus is the stupidest think i have ever heared of

To transform a stocker focus into a car that runs 11's, could probably do it under 10-15k really. Turbo/blower set up with a timer, exhaust, headers, high flow cat, new wheels and tires, new chip cams and gears, and a stage 1 weight reduction, your lookin 10-12k with the weight reduction. BUT you could also do the weight reduction yourself, rip out the backseat, carpeting, spare tire, seatbelt brackets, spare tire trunk liner, headunit and speakers, passenger seat with brackets, jack, loose some fuel in the tank (a general rule of thumb for racers is to fill up with only a quarter tank when heading to the track). Plus not to mention all the stuff a stage 2 would do.

20k+ to run 11's? what ar eyou retarded? get a 89lx mustang, full build up and SC and you in 11's under 20k. puting a v8 in a focus is the stupidest think i have ever heared of

Me retarded and stupid in the same post... i'd pursue this but after such an ignorant post i think you already proved the point i was going make.

Why would i have a suped up Mustang when every tom, dick, and henry knows at least 1 person that has one? A V8 Focus makes a great sleeper car, thus that much more fun to take racing. Plus, can't you just see the look of horror on the face of an M5 driver when he can't get the thing off his tail? Hilariously fun!

I don't care if you think it's dumb or not. Being as ignorant as you are, i can see why you would, but you're entitled to your own 2 cents.

I'm done with this thread, there's too many foolish people (ie zx2srdotnet) on here to bother.

When you're done growing up, we'll have a conversation about this sort of thing. Until then, stop making yourself look foolish, that will only give me reason to make you look more foolish.

LOL, zx2srdotnet :loser:

spend 20k and get 11sec focus or spend 12k and get a 11sec focus, now who looks smarter? and teh 1 sec focus would be more of a "sleeper" cuz it would sound more like a i4 w/ header and exaust, and less like a roaring v8

You both make great points, and it really comes down to personal taste. I think landyacht would like something that not to many people have, and zx2srdotnet likes the traditional "build on what you have" approach.

im gonna have to agree w/ zx2srdotnet on this one, landyacht is a retard and who in their right mind would spend 20k on a fuckus. after you beat one M5, you're gonna look back on your wonderfull "investment" that you just wasted 35k on and be like "what the hell was i thinking, i don't even like focii and besides, they're ugly." spend money on a real car that you can enjoy for a long time like a chrysler crossfire or shit, you wanna spend alot of money on something fast, get a dodge srt-10. its the fastest production truck ever made. ultimately its your decision but don't complain to people when you figure out that you wasted a year of your life tuning a piece of shit.

Enough with the flaming guys, the next one I see flaming somebody else gets a week vacation.