Trans fluid in coolant res. Replacing radiator
Venessa04
09-17-2015, 01:19 PM
Hi my name is Venessa sorry havent searched forums for answers yet. I have a 2000 Windstar and pretty sure my trans cooler in radiator busted as my coolant res is full of tranny fluid. But no coolant present in transmission I was wondering where the fluid was going with no obvious leaks. .. I was going to do it myself but seeing as I'll have to go get standS and bigger jack on top of still maybe needing help pushing radiator back up and securing as my husband will be at work unable to help. I have a coolant leak as well near water pump possible o ring? as well as my ac cuts off when we speed up....
My main issue is the radiator. Can I just replace the transmission oil cooler itself or the whole radiator needed? Thanks for the help.
My main issue is the radiator. Can I just replace the transmission oil cooler itself or the whole radiator needed? Thanks for the help.
Mustang_Driver
09-17-2015, 07:16 PM
best thing would be to replace the radiator but my transmission guy said that you can bypass the radiator cooler and install a separate trans cooler. my van did the same thing hopefully you caught it before it got too far as i had coolant in my transmission fluid and it wiped out the transmission not that it was the only issue but one of them
12Ounce
09-17-2015, 09:56 PM
I installed a separate cooler for the tranny ... and disconnected the radiator from tranny. I never understood the risk that auto designers take on this issue.
Venessa04
09-17-2015, 10:06 PM
I installed a separate cooler for the tranny ... and disconnected the radiator from tranny. I never understood the risk that auto designers take on this issue.
Can you tell me how hard this is to do.? I'm scheduled to have my radiator replaced tomorrow morn. But know the trans cooler is hundred bucks cheaper.
Can you tell me how hard this is to do.? I'm scheduled to have my radiator replaced tomorrow morn. But know the trans cooler is hundred bucks cheaper.
Venessa04
09-17-2015, 10:11 PM
best thing would be to replace the radiator but my transmission guy said that you can bypass the radiator cooler and install a separate trans cooler. my van did the same thing hopefully you caught it before it got too far as i had coolant in my transmission fluid and it wiped out the transmission not that it was the only issue but one of them
Pretty sure I got to it on time i have not seen any in tranny. It just empties into res. I know I for sure need a pressurized cap mine is not holding pressurPretty sure I got to it on time i have not seen any in tranny. It just empties. I know I for sure need a pressurized cap mine is not holding pressure. Ordered radiator and will pick up I'm am.mechanic will be here at 8.
Pretty sure I got to it on time i have not seen any in tranny. It just empties into res. I know I for sure need a pressurized cap mine is not holding pressurPretty sure I got to it on time i have not seen any in tranny. It just empties. I know I for sure need a pressurized cap mine is not holding pressure. Ordered radiator and will pick up I'm am.mechanic will be here at 8.
scubacat
09-18-2015, 11:38 AM
Are you SURE it's not engine oil? That's a LOT more common, usually due to the almost certain eventual lower intake gasket failure (or timing cover gasket sometimes).
Venessa04
09-18-2015, 11:44 AM
Are you SURE it's not engine oil? That's a LOT more common, usually due to the almost certain eventual lower intake gasket failure (or timing cover gasket sometimes).
No I'm positive oil level has not decreased and res smells and looks like trans fluid. Plus my loss of fluid couldn't be found in a puddle anywhere except in the coolant res
No I'm positive oil level has not decreased and res smells and looks like trans fluid. Plus my loss of fluid couldn't be found in a puddle anywhere except in the coolant res
12Ounce
09-18-2015, 12:37 PM
Installing a cooler for the tranny is very easy for the Windstar as there is a bunch of space (working room) in front of the radiator/ac-condensing coils. You can buy the cooler as a aftermarket kit from almost any parts house. I would measure the space and get the largest one that will fit. The kit includes fairly easy to follow instructions.
12Ounce
09-18-2015, 12:40 PM
I also agree with Scubacat's observations ... this engine is known to have oil-to-cooler crossover. You could send a sample of contamination to Blackstone Labs and they could tell you for sure what it is.
scubacat
09-18-2015, 01:21 PM
No I'm positive oil level has not decreased and res smells and looks like trans fluid. Plus my loss of fluid couldn't be found in a puddle anywhere except in the coolant res
If you're sure, you're sure, but I'd really verify that 110% before I replaced a radiator. There's very, VERY little opportunity for transmission fluid to make that crossover vs. a LOT of opportunity for the engine oil to do so. The oil level wouldn't decrease noticeably because it's just a little seeping. Also, if that did happen, you'll have coolant in the engine block as well which will eventually cause serious damage.
My advice, should you choose to accept it, is to follow 12ounce's suggestion and send an oil sample off to blackstone labs and see what's in it. My guess is they'll find some coolant. If you go to their web site, fill out the form and they'll send you the kit to collect the sample.
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/
If you're sure, you're sure, but I'd really verify that 110% before I replaced a radiator. There's very, VERY little opportunity for transmission fluid to make that crossover vs. a LOT of opportunity for the engine oil to do so. The oil level wouldn't decrease noticeably because it's just a little seeping. Also, if that did happen, you'll have coolant in the engine block as well which will eventually cause serious damage.
My advice, should you choose to accept it, is to follow 12ounce's suggestion and send an oil sample off to blackstone labs and see what's in it. My guess is they'll find some coolant. If you go to their web site, fill out the form and they'll send you the kit to collect the sample.
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/
12Ounce
09-18-2015, 08:08 PM
.... they might accept a sample of the coolant.
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