is there a point? really?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Akisan2
[B]you think i haven't heard all that? As a company SALES, hyundai ain't too shabby. I know that and I awknowledge that.

Stang GT
4.6-Liter, 16-Valve, 90-Degree V8, SOHC, SEFI Engine, Front/Longitudinal Mounted With Horsepower Of 260@5250, Torque Of 302@4000, Cast Iron Block, Cast Aluminum Cylinder Heads

What hyundai needs to do is come up with a unique technology like VTEC, NSX like honda, Rotery for Mazda, Evo for Mitsu, Supra for Toyota....American companies like Chevy got corvette, Dodge got Viper... Hyundai got no Flagship cars.

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stang gt has 260 hp and runs 15.00 or 14.9 in 1/4 mile and a stock tiburon has 170 hp and runs 15.4 in 1/4 mile:sly: WTF is up with that? By the way in europe hyundai has a variable valve timing engine called CVVt and will be here with in a year or so.

stang gt has 260 hp and runs 15.00 or 14.9 in 1/4 mile and a stock tiburon has 170 hp and runs 15.4 in 1/4 mile:sly: WTF is up with that? By the way in europe hyundai has a variable valve timing engine called CVVt and will be here with in a year or so. [/B]

Dude where the fuck have you been? Are you stupid to believe those shitty MotorTrend/CarNDriver and whatever else shitty magazines? They ran LS1s at 13.9s.... NEWS FLASH!!!! "THEY CANT DRIVE A CAR WORTH OF SHIT!!!"

A decent driver can run a STOCK Mustang GT to 14.0-2... Theres some people that have hit 13s BONE STOCK! Not to mention... Bring down the raceweight(32-3300), slicks, drag setup, and given YOU can launch the damn thing and know your shift points... You have a 12 second Mustang GT with ONLY 245-265RWHP!!!!

Get out of magazine racing and hit the strip where REALITY is! :bloated:

Originally posted by DkShadow


Dude where the fuck have you been? Are you stupid to believe those shitty MotorTrend/CarNDriver and whatever else shitty magazines? They ran LS1s at 13.9s.... NEWS FLASH!!!! "THEY CANT DRIVE A CAR WORTH OF SHIT!!!"

A decent driver can run a STOCK Mustang GT to 14.0-2... Theres some people that have hit 13s BONE STOCK! Not to mention... Bring down the raceweight(32-3300), slicks, drag setup, and given YOU can launch the damn thing and know your shift points... You have a 12 second Mustang GT with ONLY 245-265RWHP!!!!

Get out of magazine racing and hit the strip where REALITY is! :bloated:

Those are professional drivers that put those numbers up. They wouldn't publish the magine and have millions of people read them if they were false.:biggrin2:

Originally posted by Bob Oralee


Those are professional drivers that put those numbers up. They wouldn't publish the magine and have millions of people read them if they were false.:biggrin2:

Professional? I personally dont believe theyre times... Its also somewhat contradicts itself... CnD or some magazine got 15.1 in the 1/4 with their GT... Motortrend ran a 14.0 with their 5spd Mustang GT... I run 14.4 with a bonestock auto GT. Even MM&FF ran their bone stock Mustang GT to a 13.8. Motortrend, i believe, also ran an LS1 f-body and barely broke out of the 14s. (13.9) Im sure you know that LS1s run very low 13s, even some breaking into the 12s (MM&FF, a mustang magazine, ran their bone stock 99 Z28 to a 12 second pass). So ill keep on believe real world numbers instead of magazines :smile: Besides theyre not all that good of a driver (dragging that is) They dont powershit, they dont try to lower psi to launch, etc.
Also on a side-note... Motortrend tends to BS a little. I wont get into it since ive already said it many times across this board,.. but their review of the Mach 1 Mustang was so full of BS. The things they said about it wasnt even true.

You folks need to reread the DG's rules that you agreed to ; namely, that there would be no use of the sort of language you are currently using. Expletives are not to be used in here, plus...they are offensive to people who know the difference between right from wrong , they are completely unnecessary, they show the immaturity of the user, and they show the aggresive uncontrolled nature of the verbal abuser. In a civil world....it is WRONG to use language like that. So stop it immediatley please, find out how to talk properly, or..buzz off to a DG that doesnt care about profanity and the like.

Thank you and as always...have a nice day.

:wtf:

i agree, what the hell was all that about :gives: if they've got such a problem with it don't come in here..... plus i like the fact that it was their first post, like he came onto the forums just to play mom. If he's so much of a pansy that a few bad words will offend him, first leave here and then go grow some balls

fuck that. I think ppl need to use obsenities to get the point across. sorry dad if I you are affended by my fuckin obsenities:thefinger

Originally posted by Bad_Tuscani
Since i've had my tiburon, I have yet to lose to any Honda I've raced. I'm not sure how much HP I have, since i haven't dynoed it, but i do know from experience that i stay neck and neck with the new GT Mustangs from light to light, and i burn them in the 60ft and take off, which i think is damn good for an I4 2.0L 4cyl.

Dude you've lost your marbles if you think a 4 cylinder Tiburon with intake and exhaust can hang with a Mustang GT. The reason you're "burning" them in the 60ft is because they're not racing you, then they see you take off and give it a little gas and catch you.

Originally posted by PowerCrazy
alright, this is what i know he has, i think he may have done some work since this...... throttle body, cold air intake, k&n filter, custom headers and exhaust system, upgraded pistons, turbo charger, computer chip, ignition system, upgraded camshaft, intercooler, and upgraded manifolds. I think soon he's gonna change it to a twin turbo which I think ITS turbo is coming out with. The nitrous is a 200hp shot from a NOS big shot two stage. Along with all this the body has been extensivly lightened, and like i said, most of the stuff is custom because of lack of real quality aftermarket parts for the new tibs. He has connections in some of the companies that make certain parts and he gets stuff custom fabricated. And the last I knew he had it just over 400hp, but that was also before some more little tweaks he did with the timing and all that so it might be higher but only maybe 5-10 more, not much at all. But that's that, and im sure if you live in the area he'd be more than happy to show you the car and then the rear end as he hauls ass away from you if you'd like.

BS!!! :spit:

:lol: X 50!

a 200 shot on a Tiburon V6??? A "computer chip" controlling all this??? A frickin cold air intake on a turbo???

Just give up.

Originally posted by Murco

OK, you're either lying or you are the worst driver EVER! My Camaro runs 11.45 @ 125 in the quarter. It weights 3400 pounds, makes 520 hp, has a Corvette IRS in back and a T-56 manual. I have very little traction for the first 100' and only pull 125. You run roughly 20 hp more, an automatic, 700 less pounds, and only run 12.86?!

:bs:
Let's look at one other aspect.... K&N and 2 other speed shops are sponsoring this? Who's leg are you trying to hump?

Dude, look at his trap speed! 135mph, That's no 12 second trap speed! :lol:

Originally posted by Ringo


Ban me for asking a question? have you forgotten about my American rights?

This is a privately owned website, you have no rights here. The owner can ban you for any reason he feels like.

Originally posted by PowerCrazy
that maybe, but then why are the new tibs kicking most of the cars in it's class's ass

:lol: what cars might that be? The SRT4, which is a full second quicker through the 1/4 for the same price? The Spec V, which comes with an LSD and the same power, for less money? Maybe the Mazdaspeed Protege, which could handle circles around it? Wasn't the Tiburon 5th place in SCC's "Top 8 cars under $20,000" test?

Originally posted by PowerCrazy
The new engines for the tib are being looked at as the next skyline engine in terms of the power that's able to be unlocked. So my guess at 400hp may be an undershot by a lot.

WHERE the HELL did you get that? The Tib's V6 is NOTORIOUS for bending rods at around 250 whp



Have any of you Tiburon owners EVER been to a racetrack??? Trying to compare it to a Z06 :lol: x a million

*Burp* I eat Tibs for lunch....:devil:

when you make a car that's better then NSX, start flaming Honda, but that will never happen, so can you please stop and flame the drivers, not the actual car company.[/QUOTE]
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HEY.......how much is an nsx........70, 80 grand......how much is a tiburon.....15-20 grand...... its funny because you put 15 grand into a tiburon and it would be a hell of alot fASTER than a nsx.....which are rich people cars.....hey do you drive one! didnt think so.....try to compare tiburons with a comperable car. By the way...i have an 89 stang which i have put 25grand or so into....and it will blow away lambos and ferraris in the 1/4 mile......that doesnt mean i am going to say my stang is comparable.

:lol: what cars might that be? The SRT4, which is a full second quicker through the 1/4 for the same price? The Spec V, which comes with an LSD and the same power, for less money? Maybe the Mazdaspeed Protege, which could handle circles around it? Wasn't the Tiburon 5th place in SCC's "Top 8 cars under $20,000" test?



WHERE the HELL did you get that? The Tib's V6 is NOTORIOUS for bending rods at around 250 whp



Have any of you Tiburon owners EVER been to a racetrack??? Trying to compare it to a Z06 :lol: x a million


How stupid is that comment........how about you put the same amount of money into a tiburon as a zo6 costs, then see which is faster......i have 25grand into my stang and a zo6 is almost 2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile......and zo6 still costs more...lol

when you make a car that's better then NSX, start flaming Honda, but that will never happen, so can you please stop and flame the drivers, not the actual car company.
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HEY.......how much is an nsx........70, 80 grand......how much is a tiburon.....15-20 grand...... its funny because you put 15 grand into a tiburon and it would be a hell of alot fASTER than a nsx.....which are rich people cars.....hey do you drive one! didnt think so.....try to compare tiburons with a comperable car. By the way...i have an 89 stang which i have put 25grand or so into....and it will blow away lambos and ferraris in the 1/4 mile......that doesnt mean i am going to say my stang is comparable.


If you read his comment it says when YOU make a car better then the NSX he was not compairing them....

How stupid is that comment........how about you put the same amount of money into a tiburon as a zo6 costs, then see which is faster......i have 25grand into my stang and a zo6 is almost 2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile......and zo6 still costs more...lol


Ok so you run 10/11s with 25 grand. :disappoin My car would run that with less than half of what you wasted on yours. So dont try to brag how much money you put into your car.
Also, the pricetag of the Z06 has something your 5.0 doesnt have. Its called Superb handling. Theres a reason why the car costs $50k. Dont even compare an NSX to a Tiburon. Something as high as the NSX should never be put in the same sentence with anything Hyundai makes. Remember... You can make anything fast with enough money, but at the end of the day youre still driving a POS. And you can never outrun ugly. :headshake

Ok so you run 10/11s with 25 grand. :disappoin My car would run that with less than half of what you wasted on yours. So dont try to brag how much money you put into your car.
Also, the pricetag of the Z06 has something your 5.0 doesnt have. Its called Superb handling. Theres a reason why the car costs $50k. Dont even compare an NSX to a Tiburon. Something as high as the NSX should never be put in the same sentence with anything Hyundai makes. Remember... You can make anything fast with enough money, but at the end of the day youre still driving a POS. And you can never outrun ugly. :headshake


So true...I couldnt agree with you more... :iagree:

Ok so you run 10/11s with 25 grand. :disappoin My car would run that with less than half of what you wasted on yours.

Keyword - WOULD !!! :lol2:

Keyword - WOULD !!! :lol2:
:disappoin
:nono: And it will coming next year. :evillol:
Right now im working on the suspension. :smokin:

Ok so you run 10/11s with 25 grand. :disappoin My car would run that with less than half of what you wasted on yours. So dont try to brag how much money you put into your car.
Also, the pricetag of the Z06 has something your 5.0 doesnt have. Its called Superb handling. Theres a reason why the car costs $50k. Dont even compare an NSX to a Tiburon. Something as high as the NSX should never be put in the same sentence with anything Hyundai makes. Remember... You can make anything fast with enough money, but at the end of the day youre still driving a POS. And you can never outrun ugly. :headshake
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yOU SHOULD KNOW THE 25GRAND WASNT JUST TO GO FAST.I brought it to only 3 car shows last year...won 2 , and second place in the third show....I COULD HAVE PUT 8GRAND INTO MY STANG AND MADE IT EASILY FASTER THAN A ZO6.(Not to mention my car is a whopping 15yrs older than the z06. IF THE ZO6 HAS SUCH SUPERB HANDLING....THEN WHY IS THE TIBURON SO CLOSE TO THE same HANDLING...CHECK OUT THIS SITE TO PROVE IT. 30 GRAND LESS....HANDLING AS GOOD!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0207_shark/index1.html

Enough said. Why do people talk with their asshole so often......I had a snob yell something at me in his yellow zo6 friday as he was driving by me .....funny thing is my car is 200hp more powerful......sorry i am not a rich snob able to afford a faggy yellow zo6...not saying vettes are faggy...but the color i believe was. There is no reason to down anyone elses car...unlesss of course they think its faster or handles better when in fact it does not......If anyone gets in a new tiburon and takes it for a ride....and doesnt think it is an excellent car for the money, then they need their head checked. Hey dkshadow......what car do you drive anyway....

:disappoin
:nono: And it will coming next year. :evillol:
Right now im working on the suspension. :smokin:





I was at the track in epping last week......i saw 2 zo6's doing low 13s.....not 12s like someone keeps saying.( oh they mean with a pro race car driver ...i forgot....we are all pro race car drivers....)

Ok i just read the Motortrend article - http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0207_shark/index.html -
If you would have read that, along with PowerCrazy, you would have known there were TWO, count them TWO meaning more than one Tiburons during that event. One being a STOCK, out of the dealer Tiburon... the other being a Tiburon Race Car.
Direct quote
Test gear humming, we warmed up the race-car's slick tires and laid down the quickest 0-60-mph time we've ever recorded for a front-drive car at 5.7 sec. Granted, this Tiburon weighs some 473 lb less than the production version
Even with slicks and weighing 473 lb less than a production version, it only ran 5.7? :lol: The production version is 7 secs. Wow, its too fast for ya. Yep thats a Z06 killer. :rolleyes:

Now... What i was arguing with PowerCrazy was that he was betting his life that a stock Tiburon could beat a Z06. Nope, the Tiburon was actually 3.62 secs slower while the Tiburon Race Car was the one that beat the Z06.
Direct Quote.
Between laps three and four, the car was transformed and shaved off an astounding 5 sec, down to a 0:58.64 lap. The best was yet to come, however, and on lap seven, a 0:57.78 ticked off on our way to consistent high-57-sec lapping
So it says during laps 3-4 the car ran a time better than the Z06, which ran the 1.1 mile course at 0:59.50. BUT, before it... The Tiburon was running worse times than the production version. Typical though since its a race car and with more laps it tends to get better. So it took it 7 laps to make its best time of 57.78. But before it, a STOCK Z06 was making way better times than the Production version and the racing version Tiburon. It just means that with ALOT of money, and race cars arent cheap mind you, A car can beat another one.



I was at the track in epping last week......i saw 2 zo6's doing low 13s.....not 12s like someone keeps saying.( oh they mean with a pro race car driver ...i forgot....we are all pro race car drivers....)

13s with a Z06? Thats a VERY lousy driver. If a person cant run mid 12s in his Z06 he needs to learn how to drive the car more. Same goes for a person that cant run 12s in an 03 Cobra or low to mid 13s in an LS1.

Oh and my car is an 03 Mustang GT. :lol2:

:banghead: i can't belive you all have the balls to compare a zo6 vette to a tibby :nono: , tibbys are in no way able to out run a zo6 notta not gonna happen :headshake theyre not that fast to begin with and the zo6,well it just is , and i think Dkshadow would agree the Ls6 is a great motor and the 195 horse turd that hyundai uses is a uhhh turd!

13s with a Z06? Thats a VERY lousy driver. If a person cant run mid 12s in his Z06 he needs to learn how to drive the car more. Same goes for a person that cant run 12s in an 03 Cobra or low to mid 13s in an LS1. Oh and my car is an 03 Mustang GT. :lol2:
Weather, humidity, altitude, winds, temperature and track condition all affect how individual cars perform on the strip. My Camaro ran 11.40's for 8 runs in a row last fall and I haven't been able to get better than 11.83 since then, even with 30 more horsepower and better tires. Why? The humidity and temperature this time of year in Florida. Nobody driving a stock '03 Cobra here (8 regulars, one a 25-year racer with rock-solid driving abilities) has cracked the 12's. We only have 1 Z06 driver that runs at this track (Bradenton Motorsports Park) and he did run a 12.94 last fall.

How stupid is that comment........how about you put the same amount of money into a tiburon as a zo6 costs, then see which is faster......i have 25grand into my stang and a zo6 is almost 2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile......and zo6 still costs more...lol

Yeah that's real smart :rolleyes:

So we have a stock vette, that runs, rides, and idles just as smoothly as stock (cuz it is stock). It gets 30 miles to the gallon, handles really good while at the same time riding as good as a stock car (it's stock, remember?) It's as relliable as it came from the factory (stock, remember?) and it has a full factory warranty (because it's stock). Oh, did I mention it's stock?

And you want to compare it to a Tiburon that's had more money in mods than the price of the car itself? So you're saying someone who buys a Tiburon can afford to drop 25 grand cash into their cars, but someone who can afford a Z06 doesn't have any money for mods?

:screwy:

Do you know anyone who paid cash for their Tiburon? Do you know anyone who paid cash for their Z06? I doubt it, because most people finance their cars. So the whole "Whaa whaa he spent more money than me" argument is really stupid, isn't it?

Ever heard of "run what ya brung"? It's what real racers do. We race and let the cars do the talking, or shut our mouths. Whining about price only works with the bench racers on the internet.

BTW - I totally do not buy your Stang story. Got any proof?

considering those bench racers are mostly 13 yr old kids with a computer and a dream :rolleyes: this is stupid lemme splain,ok first you take a stock tibby,and a stock zo6 and haha a stock 5.0 mustang. put them through thier paces and who will come out on top? the zo6 no shit, then ok lets take that tiburon race car,the corvette c5R,and ummm,a non excistent 5.0 mustang race car who will come out on top? the vette duh :rolleyes: mainly because the corvettes only racing program beats the hell outta any tiburon program and the non excistent mustang program.ok now for your modded cars ok first for your mustang stock it puts out oh, i dunno 250hp? im dun have time for mustangs thats just est. for the 5.0,the tiburon is i belive 195hp. and the zo6? 405! well lets say we put $25,000 into each one im willin to bet you that the tiburon would just plain die,the 5.0 would be considerable against the stock zo6 and the modded zo6 destroys all of the above. my point is you can't compare modded cars to stock if you have a super modded tibby YOU CAN'T BRAG ABOUT IT WHEN YOU BEAT A STOCK Z06! thats just not fair take the zo6 with the same amount of mod's(in money) and then lets race. and as for that mustang dude im sorry but your car is nothing special at all get over yourself. :loser:

I dont know if any of you have ever heard of the twin engine tib, but why would someone put that much money into a car if i didnt have something to offer? and that tib will smoke any vette

I dont know if any of you have ever heard of the twin engine tib, but why would someone put that much money into a car if i didnt have something to offer? and that tib will smoke any vette
A twin-engine Tib.... Little more than twice the warranty problems... You'd be better-off throwing money into a fireplace and lighting it.

I dont know if any of you have ever heard of the twin engine tib, but why would someone put that much money into a car if i didnt have something to offer? and that tib will smoke any vette


gee let's put 2 engine in any car and it would blow ONE engine cars. DUH. Really, that tibby is really making other tibby owners in shame. If I own any car that is featured in reputable magazine with 2 engines running ONLY 11 sec on JET FUEL I will be rather ashamed...

i will race anyone here


less then 6k invested.... WITH purchase of car

gee let's put 2 engine in any car and it would blow ONE engine cars. DUH. Really, that tibby is really making other tibby owners in shame. If I own any car that is featured in reputable magazine with 2 engines running ONLY 11 sec on JET FUEL I will be rather ashamed...


Get your head out of your ass. It is running mid 10 second quarter miles now, without gigantic turbos. They are small and subtle, which is what the owner wanted. Shitty little nitto tires on stock wheels, and automatic transmissions will also keep the time down. he also has a full interior with a/c. the owner built this car to be a sleeper, which is precisely what it is. imagine popping the hood of an opponents car and seeing a small turbo and no intercooler. easy win you think to yourself, when in fact you have no idea how bad your ass is going to be handed to you. It is the definition of "street-sleeper".

And putting other tib owners to shame, what a moron. watch the video of the burnout and then tell me what you think of it.

http://www.ecanfix.com/~hyperform/matt/Videos/tibouron_clip.mov

Get your head out of your ass. It is running mid 10 second quarter miles now, without gigantic turbos. They are small and subtle, which is what the owner wanted. Shitty little nitto tires on stock wheels, and automatic transmissions will also keep the time down. he also has a full interior with a/c. the owner built this car to be a sleeper, which is precisely what it is. imagine popping the hood of an opponents car and seeing a small turbo and no intercooler. easy win you think to yourself, when in fact you have no idea how bad your ass is going to be handed to you. It is the definition of "street-sleeper".

And putting other tib owners to shame, what a moron. watch the video of the burnout and then tell me what you think of it.

http://www.ecanfix.com/~hyperform/matt/Videos/tibouron_clip.mov


Ok i guess you didn't seem to understand what I was trying to say, though I don't think you give a damn since we are both biased to our own ways. You own/like the tib, I never own/will never own and dislike the tib/Hundai til i puke. Being said that, let me tell you what i think without trying to be rude...

Cars in most people's mind have only 1 engine. It's the logical way most people think... Now if this owner puts 2 with turbo in tib, that's fine cause its his car and his project. I think he's giving this car alot of time and money and I respect that. But what I thought was "Ok to make this tib run good as supra/rx7/skyline.....or american cars, it has to put 2 engines with 2 turbos that ran with jet fuel??" was my honest reaction. Supras can reach that 10 sec without much problem on auto tranny nevermind adding another engine.

That's just 1 example of what made me feel that way after reading an article. Being honest I try my hardest not to laugh since i was in DMV reading them. But like i said, much props to the owner, but I'd feel ashamed if i was owing the same type of car as he was cause in my mind that's kinda cheating to make cars faster. But like i said earlier, we all have our own definition to modifing cars. I would try to mod the best out of 1 engine, that's my way of taking a challenge. I would never try to add another engine and turbo that runs on jet fuel. That's my definition.

I really do hate hyundai, but when people do awsome mod to a car I do have that silent "respect"no matter how much I hate that paricular car. I do awknoledge how much effort and money it took for this owner to make that car, so props....but you saw what i wrote. Now I am not going to argue or get convinced that hyundai's are great cause they aren't and will never be in my mind. I know that are growing but like someone said "New tib is being compared to skyline" Please, do a reality check. I won't try to bash much Hyundai as long as there's people not saying such idiotic things.

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Ok i guess you didn't seem to understand what I was trying to say, though I don't think you give a damn since we are both biased to our own ways. You own/like the tib, I never own/will never own and dislike the tib/Hundai til i puke. Being said that, let me tell you what i think without trying to be rude...

Cars in most people's mind have only 1 engine. It's the logical way most people think... Now if this owner puts 2 with turbo in tib, that's fine cause its his car and his project. I think he's giving this car alot of time and money and I respect that. But what I thought was "Ok to make this tib run good as supra/rx7/skyline.....or american cars, it has to put 2 engines with 2 turbos that ran with jet fuel??" was my honest reaction. Supras can reach that 10 sec without much problem on auto tranny nevermind adding another engine.

That's just 1 example of what made me feel that way after reading an article. Being honest I try my hardest not to laugh since i was in DMV reading them. But like i said, much props to the owner, but I'd feel ashamed if i was owing the same type of car as he was cause in my mind that's kinda cheating to make cars faster. But like i said earlier, we all have our own definition to modifing cars. I would try to mod the best out of 1 engine, that's my way of taking a challenge. I would never try to add another engine and turbo that runs on jet fuel. That's my definition.

I really do hate hyundai, but when people do awsome mod to a car I do have that silent "respect"no matter how much I hate that paricular car. I do awknoledge how much effort and money it took for this owner to make that car, so props....but you saw what i wrote. Now I am not going to argue or get convinced that hyundai's are great cause they aren't and will never be in my mind. I know that are growing but like someone said "New tib is being compared to skyline" Please, do a reality check. I won't try to bash much Hyundai as long as there's people not saying such idiotic things.

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its the whole point of what he was doing though. the supra is obviously faster off of one engine and could smoke a tib, but it costs four times as much new. he was making a stelathy car though. everyone knows supra's are fast as shit, and would prolly not want to race one. but you see a tiburon and you say to yourself "peice of shit" and so would prolly race it. this guy added a second engine putting a black peice of plexiglass in place of the rear window to conceal it. the whole point of this project was to make a car really, really fast without showing it. i think they accomplished that and then some more. now stick in manual transmissions, gut the interior, put big turbos on it, and slap some slicks on it with light wheels, and your breaking atleast into the 9 second quarters, which is very tough to get, even for supras. getting that tib into the 9's would also be cheaper than getting a supra into the 9's. there are currently single engine tibs in korea pushing 600whp, which shows the capabilities of the beta engine. you may think its cheating, but then you could kinda call having a v-8 cheating, as it has just as many components of the twin engine tib. i say there is no cheating in making a car fast, besides spending assloads of money because that can obviously get your car fast.

as for the new tib, it is nowhere near the level of the skyline, and will never be. the main cap bolts are not held in tightly, and the bottom of the block blows apart. those bolts have a torque specification of 12 lbs./ft., which is about the same as a screw on your dashboard. after 250hp, they snap. some say its cause the threaded sections in the block itself are not strong enough to hold the bolts in, and the bolts just rip out. (if you want more info read this http://www.hyundaiaftermarket.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=39;t=000260) good stock power over the beta, but cant take anywhere near the power the beta can. so please dont base your opinions of hyundai on people that dont know what they are talking about.

whatever though, "to each his own" is one of my favorite sayings.you dont have to like hyundai, just trying to find some reason for it. just download the video, you may gain a little more respect for our korean cars.

hondas are alright but i would still prefer a v6 or bigger ive got a 2.5l probe that im pushing 463horse cant download the slip or id prove it. but my grandma likes her accord. haha ford & mazdas rock

hondas are alright but i would still prefer a v6 or bigger ive got a 2.5l probe that im pushing 463horse cant download the slip or id prove it. but my grandma likes her accord. haha ford & mazdas rock
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where the hell did this come from?!?!!?.. how old is this?1
ban whoever resurected this

I love my Tibby; and after owning a Fiero for over 10 years; believe me, I know what really is a turkey POS.

I thought that Fiero was the coolest looking car I'd ever seen; but it was a turkey, so what the hell; I hung onto my 1982 Fiero but had to get rid of it finally; got too much to maintain.

I hope I do NOT have the same circumstances with the Tibby....we shall see.

The mid engine on the Fiero was a bad idea, in retrospect.

This damn post is WELL over a year old, why the F**K am I posting in it? This shit is pathetic!

why because you all are shit eaters and have nothing else to do with your systematic lives

why because you all are shit eaters and have nothing else to do with your systematic lives
where the hell did this come from?... shit eaters?.. wow that was clever

TS, please lock this.

locked.



wait... well... TS... lock it please?

Sorry about that guys, I was out of commission due to my pc having a hiccup and did not see this jerk. Member banned and thread locked.

TS out