The NEW eclipse How is it ?

I have a 2000 eclipse rs my shop i nva took the motor fully built the bottom end and turbocharged it here are pics the car made 316hp and 296tq this si with a full standalone system.


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here arr pics of the setup and dyno numbers at 14psi i am running the sds em3 made by simple digital systems. My friend told me about this site so i had to post here so i dont plan on being here often if you 3g guys have any question email me i will be glad to share info with you [email protected]

What kind of turbo are you running?

i am running a 60-1 t3 ball bearing turbo from innovative

Originally posted by br8knnx
i am running a 60-1 t3 ball bearing turbo from innovative :eek:

That is a HUGE turbo for such little HP.

Agreed, aren't those rated for upwards of 550-600 hp? Might want to try a smaller turbo, less lag, hella strong boost. Do you have a decent link to the dyno or pictures that work?

Rob

this is at 14psi but i agree that it is to big full boost is at 3800 rpm.

Originally posted by LandoAWD

I don't take things personally coming from a driver of an overweight, fake testerossa (sp?) sides, altezzas from the factory, dog of a car, so I won't debate the looks of the 1g; its not for everyone. All I will say is that you are a grammar whiz, and seriously flawed in your definition of racing. There is more to life than drag racing, and some of the BEST cars in the world (race, or otherwise) are neither RWD, nor have "Redman Plug" on the side of them. Remove your head from your ass.:bigthumb:

Well said, race cars have different drivetrains for different types of racing.

As far as 3rd gens go, it seems like mitsubishi took 4 steps backwards in looks, performance, and its tuning ability. Thank god for the EVO!

Well said, race cars have different drivetrains for different types of racing.

As far as 3rd gens go, it seems like mitsubishi took 4 steps backwards in looks, performance, and its tuning ability. Thank god for the EVO!


so what do you personally KNOW or have TUNED on a 3G? please tell me why you KNOW they are untunable? :smile:

so what do you personally KNOW or have TUNED on a 3G? please tell me why you KNOW they are untunable? :smile:

Please read my post thoroughly, I never said they were untunable.
I said that they had taken steps backwards in their tuning ability.

N/t cars require more effort to get smaller gains, it is common knowledge and does not need to be said.

Franchise has a supercharged 3G. I am not sure of the WHP he puts down, but i saw him smack down a Z3 2 days ago. That car is very fast.

I also know the 4G63 DOHC 2.0L has a stroker kit that raises the displacement to 2.3L. The 3G has the 4G64 SOHC 2.4L has no stroker kit, but i does have some very nice upgrades. For example, the 4G63 head WILL bolt up to the 4G64, as will the turbo manifold. Also, by changing the stock 3G 270 CC injectors to the 2G 440 CC injectors along with the resistor pack. So it is very possible to make your 3G have the DOHC, turbo, and big enough injectors to run a fair amount of whp.

On the other hand, if you want a truly bolt on kit, Ripp Mods has a bolt on supercharger kit that is done right. At only 5.5 psi, the 3G 4G64 5 speed dynos at 205 whp. Without an intercooler. Upgrades are in the works as well as an intercooler to add up to 35 more whp on the base setup. The stage II is looking to run around 9 psi, which would put the whp mark at around 260. Add the intercooler gains, that whp is almost at the 300 mark.

Is that truly so shabby?

The 3G Eclipse GT has the same 6G72 V6 as the now defunct 3000GT and Dodge Stealth. Pretty much anything that fit those cars for engine mods will fit the Eclipse , including the TT system , if you really want to deal with installing it , or swapping in the TT motor and ancillary parts. Prolly might be a decent car if that was done , but again , without AWD , putting the power down becomes an object of frustration , even with an LSD. I've also read numerous places that the handling is pretty much non-existent. Mitsubishi has basically made a mockery of the Eclipse's performance-based name ................. actually kinda sounds like something GM would do........ :disappoin

Franchise has a supercharged 3G. I am not sure of the WHP he puts down, but i saw him smack down a Z3 2 days ago. That car is very fast.



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Are you talking about a Corvette Z06, and inadvertantly typed Z3, or are you serious? [/sarcasm]

no, i think i would know the difference between a BMW Z3 and the Chevy Corvette Z06. I know that they look similar, but there are subtle differences that i picked up on. :cool:

no, i think i would know the difference between a BMW Z3 and the Chevy Corvette Z06. I know that they look similar, but there are subtle differences that i picked up on. :cool:

They run a 15.1 1/4 mile....I wouldn't call that fast....thats what I was getting at ;)

Yeah. Puh-leez , I can put the smackdown on one in my mother-in-laws Grand Cherokee........ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The 3G Eclipse GT has the same 6G72 V6 as the now defunct 3000GT and Dodge Stealth. Pretty much anything that fit those cars for engine mods will fit the Eclipse , including the TT system , if you really want to deal with installing it , or swapping in the TT motor and ancillary parts. Prolly might be a decent car if that was done , but again , without AWD , putting the power down becomes an object of frustration , even with an LSD. I've also read numerous places that the handling is pretty much non-existent. Mitsubishi has basically made a mockery of the Eclipse's performance-based name ................. actually kinda sounds like something GM would do........ :disappoin


damn due you known absofuckinglootly NOTHING about cars so please stfu. its not the same engine, not the same bottem end. not one part is the same other than the lower intake manifold.

i bet you dont know how to rotate tires; just stick to interweb trolling :grinyes:

btw i love smacking on idiotic wrx owners, my god they thing AWD is fast but on the highway i beat them in my grandma's-sisters-friends-cousins-inlaws-1980 ford pinto at 50% throttle

:loser: Awww, c'mon RockinWRX, the way you badmouth the 3g all the time, I woulda thought you would at least have some of your facts together about the car. Do some research before you talk sh*t and misinform everyone.

Its a 00+ Eclipse, who cares. Mitsu shot themselves in the balls by making them anyways :2cents:

Its a 00+ Eclipse, who cares. Mitsu shot themselves in the balls by making them anyways :2cents:
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damn due you known absofuckinglootly NOTHING about cars so please stfu. its not the same engine, not the same bottem end. not one part is the same other than the lower intake manifold.

i bet you dont know how to rotate tires; just stick to interweb trolling :grinyes:

btw i love smacking on idiotic wrx owners, my god they thing AWD is fast but on the highway i beat them in my grandma's-sisters-friends-cousins-inlaws-1980 ford pinto at 50% throttle

LMAO at this idiot. I hope somebody hits you in the ass doin about 80 so that you can be cremated on the spot , so that your poor family doesn't have to waste money on your funeral. Assuming you have a family and didn't plop out the ass end of an elephant in a zoo somewhere. BTW , I own both a WRX and a DSM , and am prolly more familiar with their drivetrains then you are with how to tie your shoes.......... :loser:

:loser: Awww, c'mon RockinWRX, the way you badmouth the 3g all the time, I woulda thought you would at least have some of your facts together about the car. Do some research before you talk sh*t and misinform everyone.

Hmm , maybe you should do a little research and prove me wrong , with facts. Its the same drivetrain and engine as in the 3000GT SL model. Lotta guys on 3Si were commenting on that fact , so maybe you should either go tell them they are wrong too , or stfu and crawl back in your momma's ass where you belong. Your choice. :smooch:

:nono: Good God man, you have some anger issues. I didn't think you would take so much offense to me saying you are wrong, which you are for the most part. Certain years of the 3000gt had different pistons and compression ratios. Certain years are DOHC and others are SOHC. The heads have different bolt patterns. The TT system off the VR4 will not work. Look at the engine bay of the vr4 and the eclipse side by side and you'll see why. If the TT setup was viable for our cars, I would have definately gone that route.

You traitors! How dare you buy these Mitsubishi sushi wagons, after what they did at Pearl Harbor. Those damn Japs using their Mitsubishi airplanes to kill American Soldiers, to rip their flesh with their machine guns. You bunch of spoiled little boys, youve never been to war, how can you live with yourselves?

Don't make comments like that. How do you know that none of us have gone to war? By the way, our cars happen to have been built in Normal, Illinois, by Americans.

By the way, our cars happen to have been built in Normal, Illinois, by Americans.

So, those squinting Japs have already invaded us. If your grandfather got his head blown off by a Mitsubishi plane, you'd agree with me.

:nono: Good God man, you have some anger issues. I didn't think you would take so much offense to me saying you are wrong, which you are for the most part. Certain years of the 3000gt had different pistons and compression ratios. Certain years are DOHC and others are SOHC. The heads have different bolt patterns. The TT system off the VR4 will not work. Look at the engine bay of the vr4 and the eclipse side by side and you'll see why. If the TT setup was viable for our cars, I would have definately gone that route.

Anger issues....me? nah , I just don't like people that don't know WTF they are talking about , and then accuse me of not knowing what I am talking about. If you knew anything at ALL about the car you drive , you'd realize its the SAME platform as the 3000GT SL. Some years have completely different base engines than others , yes. But that doesn't change the PLATFORM , and thats what I'm basically talking about. And the basic design of the DOHC 6G72 (which the Eclipse has) has never changed. If you've ever actually seen the engine bay of a 3000GT , then you'd know its pretty damm tight in there anyway. And yet somehow they crammed a TT system in there. I think you are just lazy , because it does involve removing the engine to install the TT system. I've seen it done at a local shop here , so yet again , you are a :loser:

So, those squinting Japs have already invaded us. If your grandfather got his head blown off by a Mitsubishi plane, you'd agree with me.

For all I know , my grandfather did. Doesn't make one bit of difference to me as to what kind of car I drive. I'd just as soon drive a kick-ass Japanese car , and pass you by putt-putting along in your huge , slow , gas-sucking POS. Maybe I should get some of my "squinting Jap" friends to come over to your house and hammer bamboo slivers under you fingernails , or tie you up under a dripping water faucet for days at a time. Theres no place for bigotry in this world. I hope you pull that attitude with some little old Japanese guy , and he kicks your head so far up your ass it will STILL be coming out your neck...................oh wait , it already is.............. :lol: :rofl:

Well, at least we agree on our views of bigotry. You are still wrong about the Eclipse though, or maybe your sources are just wrong. First off, you state the 3000gt has the same platform, which is incorrect. The 3g Eclipse only shares the 6g72 motor. It does not share the frame or suspension components with the 3000gt ( i.e. "platform" as stated). Second, again, you state the eclipse shares the same "DOHC" as the 3000gt sl. Look again! The 3g eclipse has the SOHC motor. Trust me, I know my car. Third, the TT setup from the vr4 won't work. Everything would be completely custom. The only remaining component from the vr4 would be the turbos. But hell yes, the engine bay on the 3000's are a tight fit. And this isn't a personal attack on you by any means. If my first post came off that way, sorry. :)

Its a 00+ Eclipse, who cares. Mitsu shot themselves in the balls by making them anyways :2cents:


really? they sold more 3gs in 2 years and made more money than the crappy 10 year old beater your drive?


what is this that idiots cannot make common sense? they just speak without thinking. OMG the DSM is the greatest car on the planet! :eek7:

LMAO at this idiot. I hope somebody hits you in the ass doin about 80 so that you can be cremated on the spot , so that your poor family doesn't have to waste money on your funeral. Assuming you have a family and didn't plop out the ass end of an elephant in a zoo somewhere. BTW , I own both a WRX and a DSM , and am prolly more familiar with their drivetrains then you are with how to tie your shoes.......... :loser:


dude u know jack , AGAIN you just proved it.

Hmm , maybe you should do a little research and prove me wrong , with facts. Its the same drivetrain and engine as in the 3000GT SL model. Lotta guys on 3Si were commenting on that fact , so maybe you should either go tell them they are wrong too , or stfu and crawl back in your momma's ass where you belong. Your choice. :smooch:


same drivetrain as SL? umm nope. you are truly a troll. :grinno:

when are you going to learn something?

really? they sold more 3gs in 2 years and made more money than the crappy 10 year old beater your drive?


what is this that idiots cannot make common sense? they just speak without thinking. OMG the DSM is the greatest car on the planet! :eek7:

Nowhere did I say the DSM is the greatest car on earth. Sure they sold more cars, but the 00+ Eclipse isnt a car enthusiats car, they lost respect from the enthusiasts, by making a car that appeals to the masses. Now who wants a car like that? I sure dont.

Well, at least we agree on our views of bigotry. You are still wrong about the Eclipse though, or maybe your sources are just wrong. First off, you state the 3000gt has the same platform, which is incorrect. The 3g Eclipse only shares the 6g72 motor. It does not share the frame or suspension components with the 3000gt ( i.e. "platform" as stated). Second, again, you state the eclipse shares the same "DOHC" as the 3000gt sl. Look again! The 3g eclipse has the SOHC motor. Trust me, I know my car. Third, the TT setup from the vr4 won't work. Everything would be completely custom. The only remaining component from the vr4 would be the turbos. But hell yes, the engine bay on the 3000's are a tight fit. And this isn't a personal attack on you by any means. If my first post came off that way, sorry. :)

No , I didn't mean the 3000GT TT model. The SL model has a totally different frame. Just as the FWD version of the DSM E/T/L cars has a different frame. I suppose the 6G72 in the Eclipse is the SOHC version , but you could prolly SWAP it for the DOHC motor.....shouldn't be hard , and you end up with 22 more Hp to boot. In any case there is a lot of similarities between the 2 cars , and most everybody on 3SI agrees that the Eclipse is simply a rebadged/rebodied version of the 3000GT SL.

same drivetrain as SL? umm nope. you are truly a troll. :grinno:

when are you going to learn something?

The only troll here is you.........and :gives:

:werd: talon007 is exactly right, they took a great car, and turned it into a civic.

:werd: talon007 is exactly right, they took a great car, and turned it into a civic.

Exactly , and the only reason they sold so many is the aggressive ad campaign. I don't recall ANY TV ad's for any of the E/T/L cars in 89 thru 94 , or any of the 2G's for that matter. Unless I missed them. Seems like the only consistent Mitsubishi commercials I can remember are from recently (last 5 years or so)

Hey, I am going to get a new car and i was wondering if the new eclipse was a good car I heard that they did not have much pick up :confused: and what are recomended upgrades



Please post wut u think of it
hey was sup dog.. i got a 2001 eclipse GT ... they got nice pic up .. i shitted on a 1998 honda civic wit a engine swap ... and on a 1998 eclipse.. my shit is stock .... but future upgrades are da turbo kitz

Speak english please. Or some other actual language. Thanks :wink:

same drivetrain as SL? umm nope. you are truly a troll. :grinno:

when are you going to learn something?

You seem to like to tell people that they are wrong and criticize thier comments, yet you don't back your posts up with facts or even the slightest bit of mechanical knowledge.

I think you're the one who has to learn something, or at least prove that you already have.

hey was sup dog.. i got a 2001 eclipse GT ... they got nice pic up .. i shitted on a 1998 honda civic wit a engine swap ... and on a 1998 eclipse.. my shit is stock .... but future upgrades are da turbo kitz

Talking like that must make you popular. :shakehead

I know most of you dislike the 3G, but that really is not my concern. For those who do, there is currently a setup on the market that is making good HP. RippMods has made a supercharger kit for the 2000+ models, both V6 and I4. the V6 6G72 kit puts down at the wheels 292 hp/ 287 lb-ft tq @8-9 psi. The I4 4G64 kit puts down at the wheels 205 hp/198 lb-ft of tq @ 7 psi. Currently though, through more tuning, the I4 just put down 252 whp @ 9 psi.
Curently, there is a member of Club 3G (http://www.eclipseforums.org/forum/index.php?s=) who is looking to run 18 psi on the RippMods Kit, which will put him over the 400 HP mark at the crank, if not the wheels.
An intercooler was scrapped due to fitment issues, but Ripp has instead come up with a water/methanol injection system which adds about 32-37 whp and keeps the detonation away.

I know most of you dislike the 3G, but that really is not my concern. For those who do, there is currently a setup on the market that is making good HP. RippMods has made a supercharger kit for the 2000+ models, both V6 and I4. the V6 6G72 kit puts down at the wheels 292 hp/ 287 lb-ft tq @8-9 psi. The I4 4G64 kit puts down at the wheels 205 hp/198 lb-ft of tq @ 7 psi. Currently though, through more tuning, the I4 just put down 252 whp @ 9 psi.
Curently, there is a member of Club 3G (http://www.eclipseforums.org/forum/index.php?s=) who is looking to run 18 psi on the RippMods Kit, which will put him over the 400 HP mark at the crank, if not the wheels.
An intercooler was scrapped due to fitment issues, but Ripp has instead come up with a water/methanol injection system which adds about 32-37 whp and keeps the detonation away.

Why bother what a waste of time and serious money :nono: There is absolutely no reason to buy a 3G eclipse if you intend to do any of the mods you suggested in your above post.

If you want looks get a 97-99 gsx and for the same money you will spend on any of that supercharger garbage you just suggested you can build a 11 second 120+ mph DSM

If you want to be hard core you will find a late 92 awd dsm and cut that same cost in half and have a faster car with a stronger motor.

well put i completely agree

Nowhere did I say the DSM is the greatest car on earth. Sure they sold more cars, but the 00+ Eclipse isnt a car enthusiats car, they lost respect from the enthusiasts, by making a car that appeals to the masses. Now who wants a car like that? I sure dont.

Now, i don't want my head bitten off or anything. I'm just gonna answer you question. Though most of us enthusiasts wouldn't want a model of the eclipse that's overweight, with less horsepower, the masses do, as you said. Mitsubishi appeals to the masses because of what would make any business appeal to the masses. Mitsubishi could give two shits if we wanted a 4 cylinder turbocharged AWD eclipse again, because they got a longer line of customers looking for a car that appeals to what they want, the premiums. Common folk think, "oh, v6, must be fast enough", and it sells. Remember, the Eclipse isn't there power car these days, it's the Evo. Though i would love an AWD turbo 4g63, or hell, if they wanna put in a 6, the twin turbo 3.0 out of the vr4, but Mitsubishi could car less, they don't need to waste so much money on something like that when they would make just as much without it. Whether you love or hate the 3g eclipse, if you've ever sat inside of it, it isn't that bad of a look, to be honest. The leather is descent, the 6 disc is a nice touch, and the metallic dash is nice as well. Mitsubishi saves money putting those luxeries in the car than producing a turbocharged engine for each of them. And as they do that, people by the car anyways, cause they see the v6 and don't know the difference. Eh, either, soon i may be out of my dsm, and into an STS. I love those things. :licka:

Now, i don't want my head bitten off or anything. I'm just gonna answer you question. Though most of us enthusiasts wouldn't want a model of the eclipse that's overweight, with less horsepower, the masses do, as you said. Mitsubishi appeals to the masses because of what would make any business appeal to the masses. Mitsubishi could give two shits if we wanted a 4 cylinder turbocharged AWD eclipse again, because they got a longer line of customers looking for a car that appeals to what they want, the premiums. Common folk think, "oh, v6, must be fast enough", and it sells. Remember, the Eclipse isn't there power car these days, it's the Evo. Though i would love an AWD turbo 4g63, or hell, if they wanna put in a 6, the twin turbo 3.0 out of the vr4, but Mitsubishi could car less, they don't need to waste so much money on something like that when they would make just as much without it. Whether you love or hate the 3g eclipse, if you've ever sat inside of it, it isn't that bad of a look, to be honest. The leather is descent, the 6 disc is a nice touch, and the metallic dash is nice as well. Mitsubishi saves money putting those luxeries in the car than producing a turbocharged engine for each of them. And as they do that, people by the car anyways, cause they see the v6 and don't know the difference. Eh, either, soon i may be out of my dsm, and into an STS. I love those things. :licka:

Well said, why would Mitsubishi lose money by selling a couple thousand cars just to keep tuners and enthusiasts happy. They would obviously much rather sell hundreds of thousands of cars and if they have to sell sugar-coated-pieces-of-shit to puppets they will. Money makes the world go round, not keeping people happy, sad but true.

i completely agree whatever you do not every one is going to be happy

If you are looking for a car to drive normally than a 3g eclipse is fine. As are a lot of other cars out there. I just bought a 2003 gs spyder and I get lots of looks, and because I don't speed to much cops don't bother me. If you want mod a car to a 300+ car than get a better job and buy Lambo, EVO, or some other factory bomb. I can think of a lot of better things to do with my time than taking my car to the shop to get upgraded. Besides you can do any mods you want to an eclipse and it will never beat a Diablo in a race. Period. Poor Peoples excuses for race cars are sad. If you are doing it for show than I understand, but please don't make a big speal about how a stock cars sucks. The people who drive it have to like it. Not any of you.

GTSpyder, I have to say, I would not have expected to hear you say some of the things you've said in this thread. I have always gotten a bad impression from import drivers, mainly because I have not dealt with the pick of the litter, but many think that they can make a honda or mitsu invincible with about 2k in mods.

You, along with a couple others in here have definately changed my perception a little bit. I realize now that not all import drivers are close minded and ignorant when it comes to which cars are made to be race cars, and which are not...

my pops has an 02 spyder eclipse GT, everyone loves it, they keep tellin us how great it looks, but i prefer a 2 g eclipse by the way it looks and how sneaky and tricky it looks and its tail lights, damn i love em..

to me, a sport car has 210-270 HP with 4-6 cylinders. I dont count the Triburon a sports car bcuz it has V6 pushin 180 HP!!!!!!!!!:lol: The 2003 Eclipse GTS is pretty quick, the GT and RS are jus slow, i would compare the Eclipse GTS model to the Eclipse GS-T model, they are both pretty quick

The GTS only has 10 more HP then the GT.. its not the big of a diff.. now the GS and RS are slow