Which Do You Prefer?

I WONDERING WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST SWAP?:smoker2:

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And just what is an LS VTECK? :confused: :rolleyes:

SORRY:D An ls vteck is an ls block with a b20 head formally known as a frankenstein motor.

Is that the same as a veetech :confused:

Originally posted by wp?civichb
SORRY:D An ls vteck is an ls block with a b20 head formally known as a frankenstein motor.


Then I think you mean an LS VTEC.
Iv never heard of VTECK.

And since the B20 is not normaly a VTEC engine, then I think you actualy mean an LS block with a B18c or B16a head, which yields a higher compression ratio and slight larger cupic capcity than a B18c.
The B20 VTEC is a B20 block fitted with either the B16a or B18c head to give it VTEC.
Both are known as Frankenstien engines.
Fitting a B20 with an LS head sounds a bit silly to me, as I think you will find they both share the same head (or a very similar one)


And in all cases I would have to choose the B18c, while the LS and B20 VTEC have been proven to work, I dont think the gains from the extra capacity are worth the amount of work required, or the still unresolved reliablity issues associated with matching a block, cranks and rods up to a head it was never designed to take, and useing the combo to produce hp numbers they were never designed for.

With the right work done to a B18c the same gains can be realised with out the same sacrifices to reliablity.

Originally posted by Worshp
Is that the same as a veetech :confused:





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A post by Moppie, followed by a post from Worshp, followed up by another post from Moppie!


Are the JDM Duo back to terrorise the 4g forums yet again?

Stay tuned Honda fans, same Honda forum, same Honda threads!

yeah a ls veteck is a b18 block with a b20 head which is pretty high compression motor i think its like 10:5:1 and a gsr is think 9:1:1. which would make the ls vteck a faster motor about as fast as a type-R.:D

Originally posted by wp?civichb
yeah a ls veteck is a b18 block with a b20 head which is pretty high compression motor i think its like 10:5:1 and a gsr is think 9:1:1. which would make the ls vteck a faster motor about as fast as a type-R.:D


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Hey kid I can hear your mommy calling, something about you need to go back to kindergarden.

Originally posted by wp?civichb
yeah a ls veteck is a b18 block with a b20 head which is pretty high compression motor i think its like 10:5:1 and a gsr is think 9:1:1. which would make the ls vteck a faster motor about as fast as a type-R.:D

Okay... aparently Moppies subtlety went unnoticed...

It's VTEC not veteck or vtek or vteck or vtech... Personally, I don't care what you call it, I know what you mean, but some people get their panties in a bunch when they see it spelled wrong, and they'll give you a rash of crap about it...

Just a helpful hint.

Originally posted by Moppie






:eek:

A post by Moppie, followed by a post from Worshp, followed up by another post from Moppie!


Are the JDM Duo back to terrorise the 4g forums yet again?

Stay tuned Honda fans, same Honda forum, same Honda threads!

:eek: :rolleyes:

LS/VTEC = B18 block, B16 head.
CRVTEC - B20 Block, B16/B18C head aka Frankenstein.

What B20 head is a VTEC head?

WHY DONT YOU GO MOPPIE TO YOUR MOMMY AND SUCK ON HER TIT.
BUT THANX FOR THE INFO.:finger:

Originally posted by wp?civichb
WHY DONT YOU GO MOPPIE TO YOUR MOMMY AND SUCK ON HER TIT.
BUT THANX FOR THE INFO.:finger:

If she looks anything like Moppie then that's a damn terrible punishment for the poor guy ;)

FYI, there is no such thing as B20 VTEC head.

Originally posted by Worshp


:eek: :rolleyes:


:finger:

Im missed a class this morning and Im bored!




I consider any mixing of parts that were never intended to be together to create something new as a Frankentein.

So the LS/VTEC, or a non VTEC D series fitted with a SOHC VTEC Head, or a 4agze fitted with a high port 4age head, or a 240z fitted with an RB26det, or a non EF9 4g fitted with a B16a etc etc etc

I HAVE REALIZED MY MISTAKE AND THANX FOR THE INFO.:D

Originally posted by wp?civichb
WHY DONT YOU GO MOPPIE TO YOUR MOMMY AND SUCK ON HER TIT.
BUT THANX FOR THE INFO.:finger:



To ban or not to ban, that is the question :rolleyes:


excuse me while I check I.P.s

Originally posted by wp?civichb
yeah a ls veteck is a b18 block with a b20 head which is pretty high compression motor i think its like 10:5:1 and a gsr is think 9:1:1. which would make the ls vteck a faster motor about as fast as a type-R.:D

WTF.....:confused: Idiot.

Originally posted by wp?civichb
SORRY:D An ls vteck is an ls block with a b20 head formally known as a frankenstein motor.
you mean B18c for the head. the B20 is the CRV head, NON-VETC.

Originally posted by 91EF3ZC

NON-VETC.

I think you mean VTEC.

Just correcting you before the Moppie Police come down on yo ass! ;)

Originally posted by Worshp

Just correcting you before the Moppie Police come down on yo ass! ;)

Ill come down on your ass beatch! :finger: :finger: :finger:



But I think I can let a simpel gramatical era pass. ;)

I thought the B20 head was a CR-V NON-VTEC head
The B18c is the GSR head.

Originally posted by 91EF3ZC
I thought the B20 head was a CR-V NON-VTEC head
The B18c is the GSR head.

That is correct.

Originally posted by Worshp


That is correct.
then what did you need to correct me for? What was wrong?

Originally posted by 91EF3ZC

then what did you need to correct me for? What was wrong?

you had spelt VTEC wrong.

Originally posted by 88CiViC_DX


you had spelt VTEC wrong.

That is correct. :D

Originally posted by 88CiViC_DX


you had spelt VTEC wrong.
I did, oopps!

Originally posted by 91EF3ZC

I did, oopps!

That's ok...just say 12 hail mary's and make a large donation to the Crx Advisory Society Helpline - C.A.S.H. for short

c/- Worshp,
PO Box 39990
Wellington
New Zealand

And you will be forgiven. :angel:

Originally posted by Worshp


That's ok...just say 12 hail mary's and make a large donation to the Crx Advisory Society Helpline - C.A.S.H. for short

c/- Worshp,
PO Box 39990
Wellington
New Zealand

And you will be forgiven. :angel:

The check is in the mail, I promise:angel:

Originally posted by 91EF3ZC


The check is in the mail, I promise:angel:

Bless you my child :)

i vote LS-vtec. the more torque the better.

funny thread. did the noob get banned?

this thread is nothing but a whoring session between mike and Worshp if u ask me LOL:rolleyes:

The LS VTEC would have alittle more power but would cost so much mroe money and time. SO if time and money are no option then go with the LS VTEC, but if youre like the rest of us and dont have a crap load of money, then go with the GSR engine. If I had enough money for an LS VTEC I would buy the GSR and buuild the heck out of it. Thatd spank the crap out of an LS VTEC in the same car. I vote GSR.

Originally posted by CRXkid
The LS VTEC would have alittle more power but would cost so much mroe money and time. SO if time and money are no option then go with the LS VTEC, but if youre like the rest of us and dont have a crap load of money, then go with the GSR engine. If I had enough money for an LS VTEC I would buy the GSR and buuild the heck out of it. Thatd spank the crap out of an LS VTEC in the same car. I vote GSR.


Please, inform me of how a ls/vtec, or cr/vtec can cost more than a $3100 b18c swap?

Also, people say an ls/vtec hybrid motor is hard to build? Okay....

well, i guess the parts would probably cost about the same. The thing that will cost a lot of money is building the engine. Since the LS Block isnt made for vtec, I think he'd have to drill an oil line. Plus I dont know many people that do LS VTEC's very often, so he'd prolly have to find someone to install it. And you know theyre gonna rape him on the price. And if he finds someone to build it cheap then they more than likely wont know what theyre doing and its gonna be real unreliable and he's gonna have to fix it constantly.

Originally posted by CRXkid
well, i guess the parts would probably cost about the same. The thing that will cost a lot of money is building the engine. Since the LS Block isnt made for vtec, I think he'd have to drill an oil line. Plus I dont know many people that do LS VTEC's very often, so he'd prolly have to find someone to install it. And you know theyre gonna rape him on the price. And if he finds someone to build it cheap then they more than likely wont know what theyre doing and its gonna be real unreliable and he's gonna have to fix it constantly.


You dont even have to drill an oil line in the block.

ls/vtec is not an expensive process, compared to a b18c

Ok back to the topic. I would chose the gsr motor cause of reliability. I dont care about ls v-tec or cr v-tec even if its built right theres a break down period for them. If its daily driven u gotta tear it down and rebuild it . It depends how much u drive it i guess. Gsr is a perfect swap. You have the torque and the high end power.


OK now this Kid shouldn't get banned just because cracked on Moppies mom. Freedom of speech!!!!!!!!!


Hes a noob so help him not to make fun of him.

Originally posted by mellowboy
OK now this Kid shouldn't get banned just because cracked on Moppies mom. Freedom of speech!!!!!!!!!


Hes a noob so help him not to make fun of him.

That's exactly what I tried to do, but I guess I was just whoring... right Jim? ;) :finger:

THANX GUYS FOR THE HELP. OHH AND IM JUST PICKING MOPPIE HE IS JUST TRYING TO KEEP ME STRAIGHT. :alien: AND FOR ALL OF THE HATERS ----------KISS MY ASS-------

Isn't the B20Z out of the newer (before K20s) CRVs a VTEC head?
:confused:

Originally posted by AlwaysMovin
Isn't the B20Z out of the newer (before K20s) CRVs a VTEC head?
:confused:


Nope.

Thanks for clarifying.

how did I manage to miss all this glorious glorious action? Damnit!!!!!
Guess it was because I was getting f'ed up last night at the club!! Yeah!
Anyway, the LSVTEC is not a good motor combination for what we (WP?civichb and I) have heard locally. The rod to stroke ratio is awful for high RPM use causing the rings to be destroyed by side loading forces with the cylinder wall at high RPM's. Also, the oil pump on an LS block begins to cavitate after about 7200 rpm, meaning NO OIL PRESSURE, which....isn't good. The LSVTEC is over-rated in my opinion. Sure it makes good power but for how long? And is it worth the troubles? Out of the two, I would choose GSR because it is designed to do what it does. With a few mods, nothing will touch a 4th gen with a GSR swap.
Now, me knowing what I know about WP?civichb I would reccomend a SOHC VTEC swap realizing what is soon to become. It is about...oh, $2500 cheaper than the GSR and it will give you adequate power and then you can spend the other $2500 on a PHAT turbo/supercharger/NOS setup, your choice. Of course, with that, you could also sling in some nice rods, pistons, and blockguard to boot and hold more boost.
Don't hate, just my $.02