Do it ur-self Bodykit??

jee the cold weather can be biatch.....i have a garage but it takes just 3h to warm the place up :banghead: .....im till working on my project but its going slow....ill up some pics soon...if i can then before the end of next week caz its not just the weather its school to that gets in the way......i dont think that this thread is dead.....atleast i hope its not. :biggrin:

You could do it in yer house. Just take off the bumpers or get some from a junk yard and put down a painters tarp and work on it there.

You could do it in yer house. Just take off the bumpers or get some from a junk yard and put down a painters tarp and work on it there.
Have u ever worked with fiberglass? :p ....the small fibers stick to everthing and its hard to remove them + it makes u itch like hell.....an then there is the glue .....ye when u woork with the glue a long time u forget the smell....but its a strong smell.... lol its a good way to get rid of people in the house but its best to work in a garage :biggrin:

Never worked with it before. But I figured it's a pretty strong smell.

How do you put the fiberglass on? What do I need to do to work with it? 'Cus I have no idea what I'm doing.

[QUOTE=GTR...GTR...GTR]Never worked with it before. But I figured it's a pretty strong smell....
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Its easy.... just have to cover the surface that u whant to cover then put the fiberglass on and cover the fiberglass with glue again and put on a nother layer....us some kind of brush to put the glue but dont make a much glue caz it hardens quickly if its warm.....i had some kind of rolling thing that i used to get the air out of the layer.....but u only need it when u are using separate fiberglasses......when u cover the shape ur making the only thing u have to do is to make sure that it stays like that.......sometimes it can come loose and ruin the thing.

What kind of foam are you using? Is it the kind with the little cells? Doesn't it just rip apart?

Kinda off topic, but i have heard that the DIY lambo door kit at lambodoors.com is a great and cheap way to put lambo doors on your car, but i was wondering if anyone has tried it and if so what all kind of work goes into it? Is it more work than it's worth? Or is it farely easy for what you get and the money u save? Thx

Pretty much from what I've heard it's a real bitch to DIY unless you've got a background in welding

As the subject says.


Got so many ideas :)

Kinda off topic, but i have heard that the DIY lambo door kit at lambodoors.com is a great and cheap way to put lambo doors on your car, but i was wondering if anyone has tried it and if so what all kind of work goes into it? Is it more work than it's worth? Or is it farely easy for what you get and the money u save? Thx

The DIY thing there IS NOT a kit....it is "instructions, on how to DIY, and the "instructions" are actually a actrile printed in the July 2003 Issue of Hot Compacts and Imports, I think it was pages 106-112. It was a article with photographs showing the process of installing the Decah VDC. Notice, the "lambodoors.com Kit" isn't a kit, it is instructions, it says so on the site. The site says, includes step by step instructions on how to get your doors to swing vertically. PARTS SOLD SEPARETLY. The Instructions, are that arctile on the Decah install from the July issue of HCI. You don't need to pay lambodoors.com $50 for this shit, call HCI and get the July 2003 back issue, it shouldn't more than $8. Look up pages 106-112. There you go, the "instructions" for $43 less. The parts the use it those "instructions" is the Decah VDC. Or, call Decah and ask Kevin to send you then article with the instructions and pictures of the install from the July 2003 issue of HCI, he should be willing to send you that for free. Anyways, lambodoors.com is a ripoff, they are tricking people into thinking they are giving you a kit and instructions. As I said, all it is is the article on a Decah VDC install from the Julyt 2003 issue of HCI. You can certianly get that a hell of a lot cheaper than the $50 they want. Remember, it was orignally only $3.99 on the newstand.

what do you guys usually use as a release agent when glassing? what has worked the best? i thought about using a combination of aluminum foil, masking tape and suran(uhh spelling..) wrap

what do u mean by taking the foam out? on page 5? sorry i just read this all

what do u mean by taking the foam out? on page 5? sorry i just read this all


Well u will have to remove the foam part...caz u will need to have the space were the parts are that will hold the kit to ur car.....and if ya dont remove the foam it will look wierd when u go get the car look over at a garage :iceslolan

definatly try home depot, they have insulation foam that comes in long sheets, something like 2'x8'. Maybe not that long, but they will have, ass for the thicknss, just glue pieces together.

Ok .....some more pics...eveything has stoped for some time caz havent had time to weld the rear wings(the black plates in the pics)...and the cold wount let me work with the glue .....it hardens but its not strong. My fater promised to get a heater so that i can finish....lol at first my dad said that its a wast of time but now he is suporting 100% :biggrin: .......lol and just wandering are DIY kits street legal.....some guy said that the parts must be inspected and approved by someone 4 the safty of people on the street? :eek7:
Here is the ugly duckling :smile:
http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New Folder/PC160370.jpg

http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New Folder/PC160371.jpg
The front end
http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New Folder/PC160382.jpg

http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New Folder/PC160383.jpg

http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New Folder/PC160384.jpg
A idea that i got from a BMW Z3
http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New Folder/PC160385.jpg

http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New Folder/PC160396.jpg
MY muffler at night :biggrin: ...uuuuu ..spoooky
http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New Folder/PC160397.jpg
Need ju sand it down and ...wollaaa....maybe 1 layer more
http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New Folder/PC160405.jpg

Pics no worky.

Wierd :dunno: .....here is the link were pics are uped http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New%20Folder/

thanks.

thanks.


Weird thing...i see the pics but others dont :mad: ...u know what could be the prob?

man i've got to hand it to you. you've done a really good job on fabrication so far. i'd have to say, your tastes are pretty ricey for me, but you deffinitly score in the fabrication area! again awesome work on the kit and stuff. just out of curiosity, how did you make your z3 inserts? what did you use to make a mold like that?

uh just so my question is clear-- i know that you used fiberglass cloth to make the mold you are holding in the picture, but what did you actually use to construct the original object?

uh just so my question is clear-- i know that you used fiberglass cloth to make the mold you are holding in the picture, but what did you actually use to construct the original object?


Same as the other parts

here some pics its 2 pic not finished but ul get the idea.....i just made some measurement and then draw them on the foam and used a razorblade knife.

http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New%20Folder/PC160390.jpg


http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New%20Folder/PC160391.jpg

Hope it helps u :smile:

um- those two pics you posted don't work ?

when do we get pics of the finished product

um- those two pics you posted don't work ?

they should work caz i upet the pics to the same place were the other pics are that i uped yesterday.

linky no worky

ya idk man, those last 2 links still don't work. double check to make sure all the spelling is the same and stuff like that

yo, if you just go to the index page( http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New%20Folder/ ) and find those two picture names it worked. i saw the two pics of the foam. thats really cool man. keep up the good work

I got a 91 4 door geo metro and I'm thinking of fiberglassing a body kit over chickenwire for the front bumper. any ideas for attaching the chickenwire? I'll have more details when i can scan the sketches ive made. the bumper will be almost straight down vertical with a big ass grill in the middle

please dont use chicken wire. at least go to a body shop and pick up some actuall grille mesh.

i think he means he'll use the chicken wire to make the shape of the bodykit..gives him something to lay the FG down on.. but if he does mean to use the chicken wire for a grill..please don't.. just buy some gutter guard..atleast that stuff looks like real grill mesh

I meant to use the chickenwire for the shaping of the kit. for the grill i was thinking of expanded metal

sorry i didnt read it carefully enough.

foam is not gunna last long. i give props to the dudes doing that at home, but the design looks like a saburu gone wrong! lol!

hey guys, i finished glassing my civic rear lip.. after much hair pulling and changing of techniques i finally got it fabricated.. now all i'm left to do is bondo it up to make it all smooth...hahah i say that like its gonna be easy... its gonna be the HARDEST part.. making the entire thing exactly the same curve, levelness etc...ahhhh... but i will post pictures when i'm all done with it ok. i've got some in between pics too so you can see how i fabbed it up.. for everyone else trying to build your own whatever..just keep at it cuz if it turns out bad.. atleast you gained a fu#& load of experience with fiberglass

hey guys, i finished glassing my civic rear lip.. after much hair pulling and changing of techniques i finally got it fabricated.. now all i'm left to do is bondo it up to make it all smooth...hahah i say that like its gonna be easy... its gonna be the HARDEST part.. making the entire thing exactly the same curve, levelness etc...ahhhh... but i will post pictures when i'm all done with it ok. i've got some in between pics too so you can see how i fabbed it up.. for everyone else trying to build your own whatever..just keep at it cuz if it turns out bad.. atleast you gained a fu#& load of experience with fiberglass

Bondo sucks and is prone to cracking, try something else, the bond will go to hell in the long run... I don't know if it will work for your app, but duraglass is pretty decent for a lot of things.

Bondo sucks and is prone to cracking, try something else, the bond will go to hell in the long run... I don't know if it will work for your app, but duraglass is pretty decent for a lot of things.
Put up a few pictures of what you have done so far.

hey long time no see .LOL this thread isent dead yet?..... good to hear that:D i see a lot of u have been busy .As for me well it going but still havent finished it completly:(... but now i think things will go faster cas my father wants my car out of the garage at the end of the summer and i think i found a welder who will weld japanes cars:) ( 5 others said that the metal on japanes cars is to thin and would not do it) but now i found 1 who will do it:D....and it will cost about 100$ bouth sides and Ill get the paint on for only 10$ if i bring my own paint and prime the car myself.....but that to come. At the moment im working the molding to hte body and the bumber smoothing .. damn hate this jobe the glue and fibers are ichi...but here some pics (some are a week old and some are older)

www.zone.ee/Deadhitman6 and then new pics

Bondo sucks and is prone to cracking, try something else, the bond will go to hell in the long run... I don't know if it will work for your app, but duraglass is pretty decent for a lot of things.

umm i'm not using bondo to mold it onto the car.. i'm just using it to even out the surface of the lip. i'm pretty sure it wont crack from just that.

also, please tell me what kind of projects you have done using bondo or duraglass and when the products have failed..aka back up your advice

Put up a few pictures of what you have done so far.

Someone tried to mold my fenders with Bondo before I new anything about what I was doing. It cracked with-in days. Bondo can only be applied in light coats, and is can't get wet before it's painted. If you put bondo on too thick, it cracks, ask any bodyman, ask Kicker1_solo. Anyways, I'm not making my own kit, but I can tell you right now from expereince and knowledge, bondo is not the product I would reccomend.

Look, lkailburn, if you don't wanna listen to me, that's your bussiness. Why do I need to back it up. You know I know my interior stuff, but maybe you doubt me on exterior. Thats's fine, go ask Kicker1_solo, he knows his exterior and has may pics of his work...he'll tell you Bondo sucks. If you want to listen, it's your car, not mine...don't listen. Some jerk hit my car last night and sracthed the crap out of my rim and my fender, 2 days after I put the whole thing toghter after months of woking on it. I had it completely apart, fenders bumper, doors completly off it. I removed rust, self-etch primed, high build primed, sanded, painted the frame, the decah VDC, etc. I can try to get a pic of my old fender, but several years ago before I knew anything, a bodyshop tired to smooth the Z3 pockets with Bondo without telling me, it cracked really badly, got so bad I just replaced it. I didn't ask them to ruin my fender like that, but they did. Go call up any paint supply store, ask then counter person, they'l tell you. Look man, do what you wanna do, you got pissy with me a year ago when I gave you interior advice, remember? Then it turned out I knew what I was saying. Bondo sucks, it's commen knowledge. Don't belive me? Fine, post a thread asking about it, ask Silverbolt, Kicker, anyone who knows anything. I'm not trying to be an ass, but I don't want you messing up your nice ride. It costs a heck of a lot of money to fix it after the fact. You've put all this money into it to make it right, don't take the easy way out and use bondo. I was only trying to give you advice about Bondo, if you don't belive me, then so be it. It's your ride, not mine, but I don't like seeing people mess things up.

I am not trying to be an ass to any of you, but dang man...bondo's just not a great product. If you use it, just keep it as a VERY THIN LAYER!!!! Duraglass is what you use to french door handles, etc...you stuff the hole, smooth it out and paint it. Ask Kicker1_Solo, he has more pics of shit than I do. Also, if you might think I am full of it, but I know you'll listen to him.

I don't have a digi cam, but I'll go out and see If I can borrow someones. I think I have the fenders the tried to mold/french the pocket and use it to "smooth it out." Temperture changes will crack it, it expands differently than the glass, plastic, etc does. If I can find a cam, I'll snap the pics of the old fenders. Not sure if I can borrow someones though.

lkailburn, look, if you don't beilve me and want tog et an attuitde like witht he interior stuff...It happened with the interior thing with you, the re-wrapping, awhile ago, remember? Just do us a favor, Call up a paint and body supply shop with knowledge of fiberglass. Bondo is considered a cheap and easy fix. Go to a paint supply store locally, tell them what you can doing, the mateiral used and have them recommend a product. If you can't find a paint store and have long distance, call Quality paint products 503-655-2531. I beleive they have an 800 number too, 1-800-930-2531. Anyways, look, just look into it before you do it, check around, I've leave the hard way, Bondo is a cheap hack job fix. My buddies dad used to sell used cars, just used bondo to patch them up and make em look decent temporarly. All I am trying to say was watch out, Bondo may crack, it tneder to do that, as you can't lay it on that thick at all. Look into it before you do it, you don't wanna mess up your lip in the long run. You spent all this time, do you really want to?

:eek2: :eek2:
i'm the banana---> :bananadie

hey man i'm really really sorry to hear about your ride. i can't even imagine what i would do if someone hit my car.. my baby.. i can't even sympathize with you cuz i just can't even imagine how fuc@#$ing pissed i would be..

but please please let me explain.. i wasn't in the least bit trying to get pissy or anything. i had ZERO intention of blowing off your advice. believe me, i know that you know your shit.. you helped me out LOADS when it came to my questions about interior, and i have no doubt in my mind that you knowledge extends to most aspects of a car.

i guess in the past i was under the impression that bondo only cracks when its used over seams and stuff..aka when molding something on. i personally have not had the time to use it. i did recently buy a gallon container of it to use to smooth out my fabricated lip.
all i was trying to say, was to go into more detail about duraglass; and your personal experiences with it. i've heard only a little bit about it; but really my knowledge on duraglass extends to the fact that its bondo and fiberglass mixed together..basically.

please please accept my apology, i didn't in any way intend to sound like an arrogant asshole. i hope you know this.

good luck with sorting out that terrible accident man. i really hope you get it all covered :frown:

srry man,

Luke

:eek2: :eek2:
i'm the banana---> :bananadie

hey man i'm really really sorry to hear about your ride. i can't even imagine what i would do if someone hit my car.. my baby.. i can't even sympathize with you cuz i just can't even imagine how fuc@#$ing pissed i would be..

but please please let me explain.. i wasn't in the least bit trying to get pissy or anything. i had ZERO intention of blowing off your advice. believe me, i know that you know your shit.. you helped me out LOADS when it came to my questions about interior, and i have no doubt in my mind that you knowledge extends to most aspects of a car.

i guess in the past i was under the impression that bondo only cracks when its used over seams and stuff..aka when molding something on. i personally have not had the time to use it. i did recently buy a gallon container of it to use to smooth out my fabricated lip.
all i was trying to say, was to go into more detail about duraglass; and your personal experiences with it. i've heard only a little bit about it; but really my knowledge on duraglass extends to the fact that its bondo and fiberglass mixed together..basically.

please please accept my apology, i didn't in any way intend to sound like an arrogant asshole. i hope you know this.

good luck with sorting out that terrible accident man. i really hope you get it all covered :frown:

srry man,

Luke


Hey man, it's all good. I understnad..I've just had a lot of people get pissy with me as of late...and now this...I don't know...My wheels are discountuiend, so how are they supposed to replace it? I'm just so stressed...and then he tells me...get this..."It's only a civic." I was like,. WFT????....sigh....anywasy, yes...DO NOT USE OT OVER CRACKS...you duraglass for frenching. Bondo won't crack as much smoothing stuff out, but I've seen it happen. If you already bought it...hmm...tell you what...send kicke1_solo an private message, pick his brains a bit. Tell you what, I'll call up my buddy David, he knows this stuff real well. I'll check with him to see what he thinks of bondo for that, what he'd use. I wouldn't use bondo, I don't think he would. He does have a lot more expiernce that I do, you he'll know a good product to use and how to go about it. He's been a lot of help to me in the past, so I'll see what he thinks of this. I'll see what he would use to smooth it out. So you finished the lip, etc...you just need to smooth the surface before you piant it and install it, right? I know theres a putty that is used to fill the pinholes in fiberglass kits, can't think of the name. I can't call David today, but I'll call him monday or tuesday and see what I can find out. Sorry I misunderstood you, I'm just so stressed out now, I'm suprised I can even think, lol. I mean, 2 days after I finished it, I had it parked all winter to keep her safe from rock chips...then this..sigh. Hey, if you know anyone with 1 Racing Hart CP-10 17" wheel in bronze, let me know. It's a 4 x 100 bolt pattern I believe. I forget the offset off the top of my head. Anyways, just keep your eyes and ears peeled for that, as I don't want a new set of wheels, I happen to like mine, lol.

On a happier note, tell me how the interior came out?

Hey man, it's all good. I understnad..I've just had a lot of people get pissy with me as of late...and now this...I don't know...My wheels are discountuiend, so how are they supposed to replace it? I'm just so stressed...and then he tells me...get this..."It's only a civic." I was like,. WFT????....sigh....anywasy, yes...DO NOT USE OT OVER CRACKS...you duraglass for frenching. Bondo won't crack as much smoothing stuff out, but I've seen it happen. If you already bought it...hmm...tell you what...send kicke1_solo an private message, pick his brains a bit. Tell you what, I'll call up my buddy David, he knows this stuff real well. I'll check with him to see what he thinks of bondo for that, what he'd use. I wouldn't use bondo, I don't think he would. He does have a lot more expiernce that I do, you he'll know a good product to use and how to go about it. He's been a lot of help to me in the past, so I'll see what he thinks of this. I'll see what he would use to smooth it out. So you finished the lip, etc...you just need to smooth the surface before you piant it and install it, right? I know theres a putty that is used to fill the pinholes in fiberglass kits, can't think of the name. I can't call David today, but I'll call him monday or tuesday and see what I can find out. Sorry I misunderstood you, I'm just so stressed out now, I'm suprised I can even think, lol. I mean, 2 days after I finished it, I had it parked all winter to keep her safe from rock chips...then this..sigh. Hey, if you know anyone with 1 Racing Hart CP-10 17" wheel in bronze, let me know. It's a 4 x 100 bolt pattern I believe. I forget the offset off the top of my head. Anyways, just keep your eyes and ears peeled for that, as I don't want a new set of wheels, I happen to like mine, lol.

On a happier note, tell me how the interior came out?

yah man i know your stressed from what happened. its all good i'm sure you needed to vent :evillol:
haha
but yah, that glazing putty you mentioned... yah i'm not even close to that stage yet for the lip.. i hand fabricated this from scratch.. and my fiberglass came out kinda rough in some places.. so thats why i need (something) like bondo to smooth it all out. shit i may even need to glass over some whole areas to raise them up level with the others. but maybe i could use fiberglass resin jelly for this, or that duraglass. shoot your friend a message and see what he thinks.
i will deffinitly keep my eyes peeled for a wheel for ya. although that one RH might be hard to come by

as for the interior.. well i haven't gotten to it yet. i've been so busy with school and work that i said i'd put it on hold until the 1st day of summer.. 5 more full weeks :naughty:
in the mean time i've been working in misc projects, including a taillight mod, a city light kit, my system install. the most recent was throwing on my rims which i think look very nice :sunglasse

pics should be on this page. at the bottome

http://www.rit.edu/~ltk6260/myciv.html

yah man i know your stressed from what happened. its all good i'm sure you needed to vent :evillol:
haha
but yah, that glazing putty you mentioned... yah i'm not even close to that stage yet for the lip.. i hand fabricated this from scratch.. and my fiberglass came out kinda rough in some places.. so thats why i need (something) like bondo to smooth it all out. shit i may even need to glass over some whole areas to raise them up level with the others. but maybe i could use fiberglass resin jelly for this, or that duraglass. shoot your friend a message and see what he thinks.
i will deffinitly keep my eyes peeled for a wheel for ya. although that one RH might be hard to come by

as for the interior.. well i haven't gotten to it yet. i've been so busy with school and work that i said i'd put it on hold until the 1st day of summer.. 5 more full weeks :naughty:
in the mean time i've been working in misc projects, including a taillight mod, a city light kit, my system install. the most recent was throwing on my rims which i think look very nice :sunglasse

pics should be on this page. at the bottome

http://www.rit.edu/~ltk6260/myciv.html


I think I needed to vent too, lol. Venting can be helpful after such unfortuniate things occur. I think your car looks much improved with the rims. I'm not a fan of silver usually, but silver on silver works, lol. Looks good bud. Yea, I know one RH might be hard to come by, heck...a whole seat will be hard to come by, if you find more than one ever, let me know...So what is this taillight mod you speak of? I just got a seat of teg front seats from my buddy, so I hope to re-wrap those soon, among other things, when I have time...ahhh...anyways the key isn't it? Hey, how'd the sand-blasting of the design come out on the plexiglass? Did the vinyl idea help out with that? Anyways, before you thought about bondo or something to basically hide the rough spots, did you try sanding the fiberglass down smooth at all to help elimate the rough spots and smooth the high spots, help level it?I'd think that would be a little bit better than bondo or resin jelly is you havn't dne it yet. I'm pretty sure sanding is part of the smoothing out eqaution if you havn't done it yet. I'll try and get ahold of david and see what he says about all this. Anyways, props for trying to fabricate your own lip. Don't think I was knocking you for trying, lol :)

ok lets see here. for info on my tail light mod you can check out this post:
http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126225

if you can't view that. the pics for it are here:
http://www.rit.edu/~ltk6260/newTails.html

ahhh the sand-blasting of the plexiglass...yet another one of those in the process projects hahahah.. along with about 100 other projects. well i have to scrape the whole lighting of the plexiglass project.. unfortunatly when i first made the mdf enclosure for the amp.. i did not make the 'walls' tall enough to allow for a cold cathode tube underneath the amp.. however i can't get over how much i like the effect of that.. so my amp is mounted on 1/4"-1/2"(can't remember which one it is) stands in the box and a mounted a blue cold cathode underneath the amp.. the cc is ready to be hooked up.. i just need to figure out how. lol.

next topic; the rear lip:
yes i did take an electric sander to the fiberglass it self but did not have much success. i was using 150 grit paper and i know i should find some 80 grit or something.. but at the rate that the 150 was ripping up, i figured the 80 wouldn't do much better.. but i did go over the entire thing with the 150 for a while, like you said to try to smooth out some of the unevenness.. but thats why i figured i needed bondo because of its ability to be sanded easily. i have not yet done anymore work on the lip.. i'll wait till you get ahold of your friend because your right: i have spent a lot of time on this and i don't feel like cutting corners on the home stretch of the project.

i've got less then 5 weeks of classes now.. so i'm counting down the days hahha.. as soon as classes are done, i'm pulling off the door panels and keeping them off until i get 4-5 projects done. i hate having to put them back on so i'm gonne combine all these little projects into one super project haha.. they are:painting the lower half of the door oem light grey. wrapping the door armrest with charcoal vinyl that matches the top portion of the door. painting and installing my spooon mirrors, and painting my exterior door handles and side moulding strip... the next project will be to take off my fenders so that i can paint the little peice of side moulding on that.. and also install my side markers. the list just keeps going hahaha but thats what i live for.. DIY projects :) yay

sup guys, check out my latest DIY for my 97 civic.. red/silver tails--i hope you enjoy. thanks go out to Silverbo1t for help with this.

http://www.rit.edu/~ltk6260/newTails.html

-Luke


:D

LOL, it seems like you're a member to every Honda related forum!

:D

LOL, it seems like you're a member to every Honda related forum!

i'm a honda forum whore haha.. name all that you can and i'll tell you if i'm a member or not :iceslolan

Okay lkailburn, I talked to David. Sand it smooth with 80 grit sandpaper. You don't want to sand the crap out of it, go lightly and not hard if you can. You are trying to knock down the high spots and level it out. Remember, sanding can be time consuming, so have patience. Then, you can go over it with 180 grit to smooth it back out. If you still want it smoother after you've down this, you have 2 options. 1, fiberglass resin. Put some of that on there, and then sand it smooth to achive a smoother finish if one is desired. The 2nd option is a gel coat. There's a product called "Monster Gel" or something simlair. It's a gel coat for fiberglass used for boats. Put on the "gel coat" and again, lightly sand it to smooth it out. I think the gel coat between those 2 sounds better, but either should work. Remember, after you sand the fiberglass smooth (this is a neccasry step in fiberglassing, 80 grit to knock down the high spots, 180 to help smooth it back out after you've finished with the 80), use one of those products if a smoother surface is desired, don't use bondo. I hope this helps you a bit, sorry it took awhile to get back to you, but as yu know I've been busy trying to take care of things.

thanks for getting back to me man. i think what i'll do is sit with it for a while with 80 and 150 grit paper. i really didn't take that much time with it before.. but it just seemed to be eating through the sand paper very quickly.

oh yeah so how are things going man? have you gotten most of it sorted out yet or what? keep me updated

thanks for getting back to me man. i think what i'll do is sit with it for a while with 80 and 150 grit paper. i really didn't take that much time with it before.. but it just seemed to be eating through the sand paper very quickly.

oh yeah so how are things going man? have you gotten most of it sorted out yet or what? keep me updated

Well, it goes into the Body shop this week, and I'll get it back at the end of the week. I hope all goes well there...I have never had a body shop once get my car right on the first fix, it's usually my paint they screw up. This shop though learned the Hard way I am anal about my car and I notice stuff...they realize I'm not a push-over, so I think they won't screw the paint up this time. They pretty much want to fix it right and never see me again, lol. Hopefully it works out. If it doesn't, at least I already have delt with them before. It's frusterating. As for the wheel, I talked to a couple of places that claim they can "fix the mark" it looks lile a small curb makr...just nasty. However, it doesn't feel right, one guy is blending the paint WAY TOO FAR out, which tells me he is going to try and hide the fact the color won't match, so screw that. The other guy, I don't know. He seems like he could match it better, and he blending technique is much more the way it should be. However, I called up DAZZ Motorsports (the US Importer of Racing Hart) and talked to some people there. They told me they don't recommned having anyone try it, but if I do, the 2nd guy seems to know what he's doing more from the sounds of it all. They don't make these wheels anymore either, both the bronze they used for the wheel as well as the actual CP-10 wheel are discontuined, so they had no money to make off me by telling me that. I don't know if I'll try and have the wheel fixed...They are discontuined and hard as hell to find. A bad blend and the wrong color is almost worse...I'm not sure what will happen with the wheel, I have a bad ut feeling about trying to have it fixed...and my gut is usaully right when the feeling is that strong. It could take awhile to sort the wheel part out...sigh...Hopefully the body part gets done right, then I just have to figure out the wheel part.

yah. well shit i hope you get it done right. i know waht you mean about having a shop do things. i had custom pipes done recently(1 week ago actually) and i think they cut some corners thinking i wouldn't notice.. but i did and i talked to them about it. atleast i have a life time warrenty on parts and labor.. so i'm not worried about it.

um i think i saw someone selling a set of white cp-10's.. but like you said, you can't find the bronze paint anywhere.. so they probably wouldn't be of any use to ya.

talk to ya later

yah. well shit i hope you get it done right. i know waht you mean about having a shop do things. i had custom pipes done recently(1 week ago actually) and i think they cut some corners thinking i wouldn't notice.. but i did and i talked to them about it. atleast i have a life time warrenty on parts and labor.. so i'm not worried about it.

um i think i saw someone selling a set of white cp-10's.. but like you said, you can't find the bronze paint anywhere.. so they probably wouldn't be of any use to ya.

talk to ya later

Yea, white won't work...if you notice a set of bronze cp-10's, let me know. I am so sick of people not thinking you'll notice cut corners...that's how I learned to do stuff, I said screw it and learned how to do stuff myself. I got sick of cut corners and crap.

will do my friend

ok cmon people lets here some updates on your DIY kit projects. pics too!!

mine's currently on hold so i can get some other projects done first. ie suspension and wrapping the interior. luckily i've got a mugen front lip and a type r rear lip in the mail so i can slap those on and look good till i can finish up the one i'm working on. i suppose if it doesn't come out right i will scrap it, make a mold of the one i bought, and go from there. we'll see what happens tho.

Does anybody know how I can customize my 88 acura legend? I'm trying to figure out what performance parts I can add to it or any ways I could change the interior. I'm trying to take the leather seats of the back and add new ones, and also put racing seats, but I don't think they have mounts for this model. also I'm trying to figure how I can put a better looking bodykit, cause they have very, very, very few for a model that old

PLEASE HEEEEEEELP!!!!

lkailburn, that reminds me. Speaking of projects, I ordered some Novasuede today (costed a buttload, and I got the wholesale price...I'd hate to think retail price) Next week (the car should be out of the body shop friday, barring they don't mess it up somehow...let's hope...) I will be re-wrapping some teg seats I got from my buddy with it. I'll try and take some before and after pics of it if I can.

foam is not gunna last long. i give props to the dudes doing that at home, but the design looks like a saburu gone wrong! lol!


well I made the skeleton with cardboard and fiberglassed it and mounted it. its pretty sturdy but before i can paint i need to know what would be best to smooth it out and get an even surface

lkailburn, that reminds me. Speaking of projects, I ordered some Novasuede today (costed a buttload, and I got the wholesale price...I'd hate to think retail price) Next week (the car should be out of the body shop friday, barring they don't mess it up somehow...let's hope...) I will be re-wrapping some teg seats I got from my buddy with it. I'll try and take some before and after pics of it if I can.

yah i gave up on the synthetic suede material.. its too costly.. i'm a damn poor college kid haha.. so i'm gonna go with marine grade vinyl.. compared to the cheap stuff its sooo soft and the guy said its uv protected and stain resistant. i've got a good portion of the material already. i found the exact color on a clearance table cuz it was cut before but never used. and its a huge peice too so i got a great price on that.. but i need charcoal colored vinyl(to match my oem charcoal panels).

i seriously must have checked my door like 20 times today..waiting for my lips to come in.. ahhh i can't wait :naughty:

yah i gave up on the synthetic suede material.. its too costly.. i'm a damn poor college kid haha.. so i'm gonna go with marine grade vinyl.. compared to the cheap stuff its sooo soft and the guy said its uv protected and stain resistant. i've got a good portion of the material already. i found the exact color on a clearance table cuz it was cut before but never used. and its a huge peice too so i got a great price on that.. but i need charcoal colored vinyl(to match my oem charcoal panels).

i seriously must have checked my door like 20 times today..waiting for my lips to come in.. ahhh i can't wait

Yea, Novasuede and Ultrasuede have spendy prices compared to other materials (leather excluded). I'm a poor college kid too, I know how you feel....but I love the stuff, lol...I suppose I can get it at wholesale, which still seems like it costs alot, but I know the retail prices (crazy high); the wholesale is so much cheaper than the retail...some of it is upwards of 50% cheaper. That makes it much more affordable...plus it gives a better color selection since you are ordering it wholesale, so it's not just the "in stock colors." I've found most of the wholesalers in the area, so that helps out too. Some sell certain products, brands and materials others don't. For example, only one whoelsaler in the area sells Ultrasuede, and only one (a different one) sells Novasuede. It was a butt trying to find who sold what, but know that I I started to figure things out, it's a little easier to find stuff. I got the Novasuede in today...the colors look great and the material will look very nice on the seats...I can't wait to get to work on it.

well I made the skeleton with cardboard and fiberglassed it and mounted it. its pretty sturdy but before i can paint i need to know what would be best to smooth it out and get an even surface

Sand it smooth with 80 grit sandpaper. You don't want to sand the crap out of it, go lightly and not hard if you can. You are trying to knock down the high spots and level it out. Remember, sanding can be time consuming, so have patience. Then, you can go over it with 180 grit to smooth it back out. If you still want it smoother after you've down this, you have 2 options. 1, fiberglass resin. Put some of that on there, and then sand it smooth to achive a smoother finish if one is desired. The 2nd option is a gel coat. There's a product called "Monster Gel" or something simlair. It's a gel coat for fiberglass used for boats. Put on the "gel coat" and again, lightly sand it to smooth it out. I think the gel coat between those 2 sounds better, but either should work. Remember, after you sand the fiberglass smooth (this is a neccasry step in fiberglassing, 80 grit to knock down the high spots, 180 to help smooth it back out after you've finished with the 80), use one of those products if a smoother surface is desired, don't use bondo.

ok im back with more pics of the mess :naughty:

http://www.zone.ee/deadhitman6/New%20Folder/P1010579.jpg
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mmmmm clean :p

Dude, wouldn't it have been quicker to save money and buy a bodykit rather than build it yourself? I've been following this thread for sometime now and you've been working on that kit for a VERY long time now.