5 cars you hate the most

[pimprolla112]

I was gonna say it says right on the site that it uses the CTR s/c engine, but then i looked up the us site and it does use the ecotec. Id still rather have the Honda engine.

And id love to see a gm i-4 factory block handle above 800hp. Im not saying they cant because ive been surprised before.

blackscorpion that would be a bad ass suv, i like the one they made for the salt flats for the top speed run i thought it looked awsome lowered and chopped. But thats just me.

[kevinthenerd]

Originally Posted by pimprolla112

I was gonna say it says right on the site that it uses the CTR s/c engine, but then i looked up the us site and it does use the ecotec. Id still rather have the Honda engine.

And id love to see a gm i-4 factory block handle above 800hp. Im not saying they cant because ive been surprised before.

blackscorpion that would be a bad ass suv, i like the one they made for the salt flats for the top speed run i thought it looked awsome lowered and chopped. But thats just me.

Find me a foreign block that can handle 800hp without severe modification (such as filling in the liner gaps and using shrink-fit sleeves and stuff like that). Any four-cylinder with that kind of power will typically break rather quickly, so it's almost a moot point to be talking about this for road cars. Sure, I've seen Toyota 3SGTE's handle that kind of power, but these aren't exactly daily drivers. It's often not even a quarter mile competition... it's to see who has the biggest dyno numbers. After 600 hp in the ECOTEC, for example, the stock lost-foam cast isn't good.

Here's that build book, just because I'm bored
http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou...build_book.htm

Sure, it's full of expensive GM parts, but if you have the dough here's how to convert it to ET.

[blakscorpion21]

actually there is a drag car with a 1000hp ecotec in it.
the 3sgte can also get some insane numbers. the pikes peak rally celica has an 800hp 3sgte in it. mitsus 4g63 is also capable of around 800hp. as far as 4 cyls go, id put the ecotec, 3sgte, and 4g63 on the top of the heap.

[mason_RsX]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

i thought the ion red line used the ecotec just like the cobalt. i like the cobalt ss as well though. for a new car under 25k id get one.

ION Redline? I must have been smoking some really bad pot the day I said that...

Sorry guys..I meant the Saturn VUE Redline...That's the car with the Honda V6 engine

I had the VUE in my head when I was posting, but some some reason I called it the ION. Probably because when I was reading about the Honda V6 I heard it was to be in the VUE Redline (its also in the Vue basic V6)...

Ma bad

[kevinthenerd]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

actually there is a drag car with a 1000hp ecotec in it.
the 3sgte can also get some insane numbers. the pikes peak rally celica has an 800hp 3sgte in it. mitsus 4g63 is also capable of around 800hp. as far as 4 cyls go, id put the ecotec, 3sgte, and 4g63 on the top of the heap.

The ECOTEC tops out around 1400 hp, but after all the modifications, is it really an ECOTEC by that point? I would argue "no." At that point, you're looking at a severely modified and prepped race block with almost no stock internals. One of the few things such a race engine has in common with the LSJ is the displacement.

[Yellow Horse]

[quote=98BlackTransAm]i saw a red z06 c6 yesterday and the plate said "YU $$ WISH""
i dont hate the car, but i hate the driver and for his sake hope it gets keyed.[/quote]

What are you some sort of a$$ H0!e.

[pimprolla112]

No do you have to be an ass hole to realize that someone has an ego problem. Its more or less the guy with the vette is the asshole. I want one that reads in big letters "FUCKOFF". And in MD i think its possible to get it done.

[Yellow Horse]

Originally Posted by pimprolla112

No do you have to be an ass hole to realize that someone has an ego problem. Its more or less the guy with the vette is the asshole. I want one that reads in big letters "FUCKOFF". And in MD i think its possible to get it done.

It doesn't matter if someone has an ego problem or not. It is someone elses property.

So if I think you are an A$$ for having an ego about your car, you wouldn't have a problem with me keying your car.

Nobody should key any car, you do not have the right to damage someone elses property.

[Yellow Horse]

Originally Posted by pimprolla112

No do you have to be an ass hole to realize that someone has an ego problem. Its more or less the guy with the vette is the asshole. I want one that reads in big letters "FUCKOFF". And in MD i think its possible to get it done.

Also you better hope that no one it the Merchantville MD, zip code area 20659 gets keyed and if it says F'off you may have some explaining to do to the police.

[kevinthenerd]

Originally Posted by pimprolla112

No do you have to be an ass hole to realize that someone has an ego problem. Its more or less the guy with the vette is the asshole. I want one that reads in big letters "FUCKOFF". And in MD i think its possible to get it done.

People who flaunt their money are assholes, but the very worst kind are those who buy the car to show off the wealth. Personally, I'd take a Lotus Elise over a Corvette any day, and it's cheaper. Sure, the Z06 is a sweet car, but it's not my thing, really.

[kevinthenerd]

Originally Posted by Yellow Horse

It doesn't matter if someone has an ego problem or not. It is someone elses property.

So if I think you are an A$$ for having an ego about your car, you wouldn't have a problem with me keying your car.

Nobody should key any car, you do not have the right to damage someone elses property.

It's one thing to think it, and it's another thing to actually do it. There's no harm in having a big smile on your face when some guy does your dirty work for you, right?

[MetalHeadZaid]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

as far as 4 cyls go, id put the ecotec, 3sgte, and 4g63 on the top of the heap.

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[ford2go]

Hard to say -- but I do hate them. I don't hate the poor misguided people that own them -- I hate the manufacturers for giving us these lumps. And I hate looking at them

1. 57 chev -- I hated it in 57, and I still do
2. Early Toyotas -- lumpy and unbalanced
3. Almost any Citroen
4. Most early 60's mopars -- liked the Valiants
5. Pontiac Aztec -- maybe it should be no1 -- it's hard to rank these

For those who disliked the Mustangs -- I can't see it, but it's your
choice. I will say that in the last few years, FoMoCo has recreated and updated the original concept better than any others I've seen -- the mopar and Camaro efforts seem lame by comparison. They look like Mustangs - not
like some retro patches applied to what passes for styling these days.
So -- if you hated them earlier -- they're back

ford2go

[pimprolla112]

57 chevy is a classic, and IMO its one of the few sexy cars from the time era. As for mustangs i dont think its the cars its more or less the driver. And another side note the camaro and mustang have never even looked close to the same. But every one has there own opinion.

[blakscorpion21]

Originally Posted by ford2go

Hard to say -- but I do hate them. I don't hate the poor misguided people that own them -- I hate the manufacturers for giving us these lumps. And I hate looking at them

1. 57 chev -- I hated it in 57, and I still do
2. Early Toyotas -- lumpy and unbalanced
3. Almost any Citroen
4. Most early 60's mopars -- liked the Valiants
5. Pontiac Aztec -- maybe it should be no1 -- it's hard to rank these

For those who disliked the Mustangs -- I can't see it, but it's your
choice. I will say that in the last few years, FoMoCo has recreated and updated the original concept better than any others I've seen -- the mopar and Camaro efforts seem lame by comparison. They look like Mustangs - not
like some retro patches applied to what passes for styling these days.
So -- if you hated them earlier -- they're back

ford2go

dude, early toyotas are sweet, the 2000gt and 1st generation celica are awesome classics.

i dont dislike mustangs, i actually find them growing on me. most stang drivers suck though, they think their mustang is the greatest car on the road. especially v6 mustang owners, hell i could smoke them in my lowley 130hp celica, and thats in a drag race, not to mention how bad they would get murdered on some kind of circuit.