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Old 10-16-2005, 03:01 PM   #16
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Re: 05 tC vs. 04? Grand Am GT

The advantage of the Grand Am GT is that it still hauls nicely with the weight of passengers thanks to all that torque. However, like the Scion, it was not intended to be a high performance race car. Like Mr. Luos said, they make excellent daily drivers with a nice ride, great handling, good fuel economy (with regular octane) on par with many 4 cylinder cars out there, lots of options, a great stock stereo system, smooth transmission, easy to drive in all driving conditions...and they will take care of most boy racers in their 4 banger compacts who want to try to take them on in the lame duck lane from a red light. Even when the large trunk is loaded up with luggage for the family of 4 that are riding in it on their long weekend trip (though in that case, maybe not a Scion tC).

Then again, the car looks so good inside and out, it doesn't need to be fast...it only needs to be fast enough.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:35 PM   #17
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Re: 05 tC vs. 04? Grand Am GT

im not so sure about the looks part

but hey, thanks for advertising the grand am. pontiac will appreciate it.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:54 PM   #18
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In much the same way Mazda appreciates yours, I'm sure.
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Old 10-16-2005, 04:13 PM   #19
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Re: 05 tC vs. 04? Grand Am GT

hey you have a sense of humor.

good.
i keep forgetting which one has a supercharger option, grand am or grand prix
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Old 10-16-2005, 04:28 PM   #20
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Re: 05 tC vs. 04? Grand Am GT

Good kill. I raced one when I use to have my uber fast GS-R Integra (It was the GT model). Beat him by a couple cars. It was pretty fun though.
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Old 10-16-2005, 05:14 PM   #21
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Re: Re: 05 tC vs. 04? Grand Am GT

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thanks for advertising the grand am. pontiac will appreciate it.
Mostly since they don't make them anymore.

I love my Grand Am GT. But, like I said earlier....not for speed. That is what the other car is for. Does fine in traffic and getting on the highway though.
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:23 PM   #22
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hey you have a sense of humor.

good.
i keep forgetting which one has a supercharger option, grand am or grand prix
It is the Grand Prix GTP that has a stock eaton supercharger.

Ive heard that GrandAms with a supercharger and V6 are not to shabby either.
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Old 10-17-2005, 05:46 PM   #23
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Ive heard that GrandAms with a supercharger and V6 are not to shabby either.
Except the tranny gives out after 15,000 miles of that power.
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Old 10-18-2005, 07:42 AM   #24
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Re: 05 tC vs. 04? Grand Am GT

210 lb. ft. of torque is about all they're good for stock, then you need to build the tranny up. Keep everything stock, the transmission will last forever (or until you start doing neutral drops).

In retrospect, what's funny about the original post here is that the Scion driver actually thinks his 4 banger economy car is some fast street rod. My guess is this is due to the fact that up until he got his Scion, he hasn't driven anything faster than a 10 speed bike.

With GTO's, Mustang GT's, SRT-4's, and now V8 powered Impala SS's and Monte Carlo SS's on the street and quite affordable to the average joe, I think most of us would have too much self-respect to brag about illegal street racing in a 4 banger economy grocery-getter.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:14 PM   #25
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Re: Re: 05 tC vs. 04? Grand Am GT

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210 lb. ft. of torque is about all they're good for stock, then you need to build the tranny up. Keep everything stock, the transmission will last forever (or until you start doing neutral drops).

In retrospect, what's funny about the original post here is that the Scion driver actually thinks his 4 banger economy car is some fast street rod. My guess is this is due to the fact that up until he got his Scion, he hasn't driven anything faster than a 10 speed bike.

With GTO's, Mustang GT's, SRT-4's, and now V8 powered Impala SS's and Monte Carlo SS's on the street and quite affordable to the average joe, I think most of us would have too much self-respect to brag about illegal street racing in a 4 banger economy grocery-getter.
i never ever once said that my scion tc was fast.
not once
not even half
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:52 PM   #26
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Yeah, i agree with thequietthings, where did he say his car was fast DigitalQuirk?
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Old 10-19-2005, 02:00 AM   #27
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The advantage of the Grand Am GT is that it still hauls nicely with the weight of passengers thanks to all that torque. However, like the Scion, it was not intended to be a high performance race car. Like Mr. Luos said, they make excellent daily drivers with a nice ride, great handling, good fuel economy (with regular octane) on par with many 4 cylinder cars out there, lots of options, a great stock stereo system, smooth transmission, easy to drive in all driving conditions...and they will take care of most boy racers in their 4 banger compacts who want to try to take them on in the lame duck lane from a red light. Even when the large trunk is loaded up with luggage for the family of 4 that are riding in it on their long weekend trip (though in that case, maybe not a Scion tC).

Then again, the car looks so good inside and out, it doesn't need to be fast...it only needs to be fast enough.
so a guy walks in to a lexus dealership and wants to buy a car, so the dealer comes up to him and says "may I help you with something" the customer replies "why yes Im looking for something with great handling, good on fuel (with regular octane), lots of options, a great stock sound system, a smooth transmission, easy to drive in all driving conditions, and last but not least SOMETHING WITH A LARGE TRUNK!!!!!!!!!!! The dealer replies back "I have a brand new 2006 GS 400 it has everything that your looking for but...................A LARGE TRUNK............Im sorry sir but you might want to try out the pontiac dealership down the road I heard the grand ams have a monster trunk...............
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Re: Re: 05 tC vs. 04? Grand Am GT

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With GTO's, Mustang GT's, SRT-4's, and now V8 powered Impala SS's and Monte Carlo SS's on the street and quite affordable to the average joe, I think most of us would have too much self-respect to brag about illegal street racing in a 4 banger economy grocery-getter.
hey wait a minute.......didnt you say you laugh at people who drive a small trunk, and no automatic rear window having, just a neon that is also a 4 banger.....but now says this......hmmmmmmmmmm
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ha yeah i saw that too. He also likes to use the phrase "illegal street racing". Ive seen it about 20 times
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yes I know this is sad isnt it..........officer quirk wants to be a GM sales man.....
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