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08-11-2004, 08:39 PM | #46 | |
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?
In my opinion, anything in the 15's or lower is quick. Anything in the 13's or lower is fast. Anything in the 11's or lower is supercar.
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08-11-2004, 08:53 PM | #47 | |
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?
I hate how everyone throws the word "supercar" around. It used to mean something, most cars that run in 11's or lower has lost its balance and ability to handle.
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08-11-2004, 09:56 PM | #48 | ||
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Please stop saying "fwhp" unless you're talking about Front Wheel Horse Power. I sit here and think "Mustang... front wheel horse power... WTH?". Then I think for several minutes before I decide you must mean FlyWheel Horse power. Thank you. Jason |
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08-11-2004, 10:15 PM | #49 | ||
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Oh, and 'wet' means what your car weighs at the starting line. This includes any and everything - coolant, fuel, you, your clothes/helmet, fire extinguishers, etc. Dry is the opposite. |
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08-11-2004, 10:46 PM | #50 | |
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"supercar" definition
I think the line for a street car is incredibly high maintenence (every 500 miles or so), very poor gas mileage (5mpg) or requiring race gas, and exotic components like a lenco 5-spd, 6000 rpm stall converter, or mechanical alcohol injection.
Other criteria, particularly power accesories and A/C, are of little concern especially if the vehicle in question didn't come with them. Here is a great proposition - I think the ultimate street car is the 3-G machine, capable of pulling a full G on braking, skidpad, and acceleration. That is supercar status, and if it gets 20+ mpg, you have perhaps created the ultimate street car. If you can live with driving a car on the street, more power to you. And, if you can live 10 mpg (pump gas) on the freeway, idling at 1200 rpm, and having a grabby, chattery clutch, more power to you. Personally, I am looking forward to driving my "hot" '78 Fairmont complete with a 500+ hp full roller N/A small block and 4-spd manual on the street, and even to work on a regular basis if gas prices don't go up any more. It will require occasionally lash and valvespring checks for the solid roller valvetrain and probably get 8-10 mpg city/14 freeway, but that is fine by me. And with a predicted weight of 2500 lbs all up it is very fast - a truly fast street car. Try and work out the 1/4 times for a vehicle like that, and try adding a 150 hp shot of juice to speed things a bit. If you can't build more engine power always go for reduced weight. Lastly, I don't think a truly fast street car can be bought off the lot, unless you are talking about a 390 hp Cobra or the Dodge Hemi Super stocks of old. Even then, the fastest will always belong to those who craft and conceive their machines themselves. Race on.... |
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08-11-2004, 11:22 PM | #51 | ||
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08-11-2004, 11:25 PM | #52 | ||
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08-12-2004, 12:17 AM | #53 | |
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08-12-2004, 01:05 AM | #54 | ||
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08-12-2004, 01:21 AM | #55 | |
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?
Good point. I'm used to writing on a forum about old ford v8s, so no one confuses flywheel hp with front wheel hp.
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08-12-2004, 01:25 AM | #56 | ||
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?
Where i live, fast is 300-400hp w/ 13s attainable, most of us that jack around every weekend racing run 15s , there isn't much competition around and unfortunately, i'm third in my general class around here behind a prelude (dunno haven't raced him) and a GS-T (get him off the line til 3rd) besides that a 240 is 4th and everything else that wants to run so here
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Try, crank hp or hp at the crank thats what i use to be less confusing
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08-12-2004, 05:36 AM | #57 | ||
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300-400 HP is easy 12s .... if not low 11s with good driving for a typical 2800-3200 lbs car.
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At a huge bargain, I might add, for what you're getting. I've seen that car in the mag run a few mid 9-second passes personally, and this car is it's (almost) double, built by the same people.
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08-12-2004, 02:46 PM | #59 | ||
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08-12-2004, 02:48 PM | #60 | ||
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and have all emissions full weight with a stereo and ac
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