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Old 11-25-2009, 09:19 AM   #46
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Re: Ned's 91 GSX

Oil catch can is an oil catch can.
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Re: Ned's 91 GSX

For the WB you have the power wires and then the wires coming from the WB. Then there's the 1 wire to hook up to the 3rd party logger or whatever. The AEM UEGO has everything in a nice harness and is very easy.

There's debates on catch cans. You want the crank case to still be able to breath properly so a lot fo people use a dual catch can on their turbo models. There's a big thread and diagrams on Tuners about this. I have 1. Any oil coming out will get caught in the can and the flowing air goes back in. Going to add a filter to the top of it so fresh air can cycle in. But ebay catch cans work fine. The only reason why those "vender" cans are so expensive is because they're all custom built by hand instead of mass-produced.
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Old 11-25-2009, 11:04 AM   #48
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Re: Ned's 91 GSX

EGTs are just so you dont melt your internals. Dave is right, they use to be the way to tune but not so much anymore. I wouldn't say its a useless gauge by any means but a WB is deffinately needed asap.

Ebay catchcans are fine, its just a metal can so its pretty hard to mess that up.
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Old 11-25-2009, 11:21 AM   #49
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I figured that with the catch can, looks like I can score one for like 20 bucks off ebay. I'm going to definitely get a WBO2 just have to wait till spring along with the FMIC. I'm just goning to get a catch can in a couple weeks.
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Got the ISC and the 2g TB elbow in and I didn't expect the difference to be so extreme! I also pulled the 160 degree thermostat pulled back out and reinstalled the 180 degree one I had on hand. Also put the battery and tray back in. I got a used center grill emblem piece that was a little hazzy but I cleaned it up with some Maguires and some wet sand paper. Couple pics from the night.



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Wow that TB elbow necks down a lot. That rediculous that they even put that shit on there.
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Wow that TB elbow necks down a lot.
Why would they even bother ya know.

and I'm thinking about making my own oil catch can out of something cool.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:46 PM   #53
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So when I bought my car, it had a home made oil catch can. On the end that would normally go to the intake, it went to a breather filter. So I being a dumb learning guy pulled it out and threw it in my drawer in the garage. Well in one of my logs, the guys on ECM forums noticed I had that vent/vac line going straight to a filter and venting to atmosphere. He said I should have it recirculated so I just put the home made catch can back into the car but I ran a vac line to the MAF housing to recirculate it. Well that's when I noticed that I was smoking out the exhaust a bit and that's when I noticed the vac line I connected at the MAF housing was actually drawing oil through the turbo.


So after that long story what could have I done wrong to have caused the oil to pull through the intake like it did? Also I noted that the catch can was empty once reinstalled. I would like to just clean this guy back up and put it back in but I don't want the same problem.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:34 PM   #54
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So what are your guys thoughts on 2g maf on a 1g? Is it recommended? Is there an option in link for this set up?

Another question, does the ECU need to be pulled to install a WBO2?

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Old 12-04-2009, 06:57 AM   #55
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:38 AM   #56
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Re: Ned's 91 GSX

No idea with you having DSMLink. Seems like the WB should just hook up to some wire at some point, but again, no idea.

And also no ideas with MAF. 420a FTW
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Wow triple post FTL. Work internet = FAIL. My bad
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Dude I searched for like 2 days trying to find anything that would help me, guess I was looking in the wrong place. Thanks

Edit:looks like pin 15 is my queen. This may sound dumb but do I just simply cut the wire at the ECU and wire it in?

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Re: Ned's 91 GSX

Again, not 100% sure, but I would just tap into it to start.
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