5 cars you hate the most

[blackstang04]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

whats wrong with the srt-4 those cars are awesome for the money. my cousin took his to the strip just the other night and smoked a mustang gt.

1. Its a neon = we're already off to a bad start
2. Fugly = My opinion, yes they are horrid.
3. FWD = wheelhop and horrible weight balance and handling
4. Prone to breakage = I have yet to know of an SRT4 that hasn't had something wrong with it.
5. Drivers = they all think they're hot shit because they can go fast in a straight line...from a dig that is.

I think 5 reasons is enough to make my point. I dont like it, you do, others might or might not. That is all.

[iceonfire666]

i dont like neons,
but...
realize that dude owns a mustang lmao
mustangs are just as bad as neons bud

[blackstang04]

Originally Posted by iceonfire666

i dont like neons,
but...
realize that dude owns a mustang lmao
mustangs are just as bad as neons bud

I guess ignorance is bliss. I'm done here.

[Jimster]

WTF@ Attributing bad handling to FWD. The only thing that can be attributed to bad handling is mediocre suspension ala the Ford Mustang (Or the lack of an LSD in some applications, but the SRT4 is equipped with one from 2005+).



Stop reading the descriptions on Gran Turismo and actually trash a few different types of cars around the track.

[blackstang04]

Originally Posted by Jimster

WTF@ Attributing bad handling to FWD. The only thing that can be attributed to bad handling is mediocre suspension ala the Ford Mustang (Or the lack of an LSD in some applications, but the SRT4 is equipped with one from 2005+).



Stop reading the descriptions on Gran Turismo and actually trash a few different types of cars around the track.

I stopped playing Gran Turismo a long time ago. I've ridden in SRT4s, watched them in autocross events, seen them drag race... and even raced a few. They handle like shit if you ask me.

And since when did this thread become, "bash the person's car who has a different opinion than you"? I said I didn't like SRT4s, I never said my Mustang was better, faster, or handled better; I just stated the fact that SRT4s suck IN MY OPINION.

[blakscorpion21]

Originally Posted by blackstang04

1. Its a neon = we're already off to a bad start
2. Fugly = My opinion, yes they are horrid.
3. FWD = wheelhop and horrible weight balance and handling
4. Prone to breakage = I have yet to know of an SRT4 that hasn't had something wrong with it.
5. Drivers = they all think they're hot shit because they can go fast in a straight line...from a dig that is.

I think 5 reasons is enough to make my point. I dont like it, you do, others might or might not. That is all.

1. true, but neons have always just been cheap transport. they served their purpose.
2. opinions are opinions but i think it is a nice looking 4 door. i think it looks better than an evo/sti.
3. there handling is actually quite good.
4. cant argue here but hey you get what you pay for. price, performance, and reliability. you can only have 2/3 not all 3.
5. kinda reminds me of muscle car owners. they think they are badass with their 400hp v8s smoking everyone in a drag race, but would prolly get killed by a minivan on an autocross track. not that theres anything wrong with muslce cars, they fufil the role they were intended for(fast in straight line)

not to be a dick but, i guess if you hate the srt-4 you must really hate mustangs considering they are slower and handle worse. lol, im just messing with you, i actually like the new stangs alot.

[blackstang04]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

1. true, but neons have always just been cheap transport. they served their purpose.
2. opinions are opinions but i think it is a nice looking 4 door. i think it looks better than an evo/sti.
3. there handling is actually quite good.
4. cant argue here but hey you get what you pay for. price, performance, and reliability. you can only have 2/3 not all 3.
5. kinda reminds me of muscle car owners. they think they are badass with their 400hp v8s smoking everyone in a drag race, but would prolly get killed by a minivan on an autocross track. not that theres anything wrong with muslce cars, they fufil the role they were intended for(fast in straight line)

not to be a dick but, i guess if you hate the srt-4 you must really hate mustangs considering they are slower and handle worse. lol, im just messing with you, i actually like the new stangs alot.

mustangs > srt4s at every autocross event I've ever been to. But let me guess, I'm sure those must have been bad drivers every single time. But then again, this is all useless because we're comparing two completely different cars.

Ford -- Dodge
RWD -- FWD
2dr -- 4dr
V6/V8 n/a -- I4 turbo

You're comparing a sports coupe to a family sedan with a turbo slapped on it. Lets just leave it at that. They're two totally different machines, so lets just agree to disagree!

[blakscorpion21]

calling an srt-4 a family sedan is like calling an evo or sti a family sedan. its counterpart neon is indeed a family sedan, but the srt-4 has a completeley diffrent engine, suspension, exterior, wheels, and interior. they didnt just slap a turbo on a stock neon engine. but everyone has their own tastes i guess. id prolly take an 06 mustang gt over an srt-4 but not any other mustang.

[BLU CIVIC]

not another STR-4 debate

[slideways...]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

calling an srt-4 a family sedan is like calling an evo or sti a family sedan. its counterpart neon is indeed a family sedan, but the srt-4 has a completeley diffrent engine, suspension, exterior, wheels, and interior. they didnt just slap a turbo on a stock neon engine.

ummmmm no

its engine is basically the exact same engine as was in the dodge stratus(including using cast pistons). the suspension is the same setup as the stock neon. wheels dont make a car. it does have a nice interior though...

evo and STI are waaaaaaaaay different not a good comparo

[most_wanted192000]

i would rather own a evo/sti than a srt4 neon that's for sure. But i really hate...

1) chevy silverados- My dad had a 2005 silverado and that thing had no balls what so ever no passing power or merging power and that was with the a/c off.
2) Vw beetles
3)Chevy cobalt
4)Hummers (h2,h3)
5) Camaros/firechickens

[98BlackTransAm]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

calling an srt-4 a family sedan is like calling an evo or sti a family sedan. its counterpart neon is indeed a family sedan, but the srt-4 has a completeley diffrent engine, suspension, exterior, wheels, and interior. they didnt just slap a turbo on a stock neon engine. but everyone has their own tastes i guess. id prolly take an 06 mustang gt over an srt-4 but not any other mustang.

i always thought the srt-4 had the same engine as the stock neon, but that was just an assumption based on what i've heard. sti's/evo's are good comparisons because they both have slower versions of those same cars too. srt-4>neon, evo>lancer, and sti>non-sti wrx.

is an 03/04 cobra considered a mustang?

[JLad10687]

Originally Posted by 98BlackTransAm

iis an 03/04 cobra considered a mustang?

Good point...TransAm gets a check in the W column for this conversation.

[most_wanted192000]

The sxt neons have the 2.0 I4 while the srt-4 has the turbocharged 2.4 I4 basicly the srt 4 shares the block and heads of the PT cruiser(turbo). I see more sxt versions than srt-4's around here

[blakscorpion21]

Originally Posted by slideways...

ummmmm no

its engine is basically the exact same engine as was in the dodge stratus(including using cast pistons). the suspension is the same setup as the stock neon. wheels dont make a car. it does have a nice interior though...

evo and STI are waaaaaaaaay different not a good comparo

no way the suspension is the same as a reg. neon. ive driven a regular neon and the suspension is sloppy in the turns and soakes up bumps, the srt4s is rough and handles pretty well.

im just saying that because its a 4 door dont mean its a family sedan. i know they are in a whole nother league though.