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Old 09-18-2008, 11:51 AM   #1
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Loosening off tension/idler pulley

What is the trick to this!? It's a '98 ram van....I've been searching all over the internet, for an hour now....and these clowns keep saying "Oh just use a ratchet or open end wrench, blah blah blah" Ya, good idea in theory, but use those on what!? There isn't a nut/bolt there! Just the one to take the tensioner pulley off! Haha, ya, I'm a little frustrated....why couldn't the belt bust on my GMC pickup....

Oh and someone suggested they're could be a square hole on the top of it..and yes there is, but what do you put in that? ah details, details....
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:44 PM   #2
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Re: Loosening off tension/idler pulley

It sounds like what you're trying to do is move the pulley over to put a new belt on. If so, you use that bolt in the center of the pulley. Use a wrench, socket, or whatever floats your boat and pull the pulley over to the right enough to slip the belt on.
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:01 PM   #3
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Re: Loosening off tension/idler pulley

THANK YOU!! Thank you so much! I did *almost* try that, but as I put some pressure on the ratchet, I thought I might break the bolt...Well, I'm not afraid anymore! Gonna go try it right now....
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:27 PM   #4
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No you won't break the bolt, it's hardened steel. Assuming of course that you don't go and put a 6 foot piece of pipe on your ratchet and hang off of it.
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:31 PM   #5
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Re: Loosening off tension/idler pulley

Beautiful! The belts on, truck running! Thank you for taking the time out of your day to be on this message board, and answer my question. I can now finally leave this hovel, and make my 5:30 appointment! (Now of course I feel bad cause I called those other people "clowns"....I'm the clown...I admit it.

If you *feel* like it, can I ask you one more question? I just noticed that there is a green (should be copper by the looks of it) kind of ribbon thing that is grounded at one end and is ripped in half, and the other end is grounded to the upper part under the hood, where there is a thick rubber gasket...Can I replace this with a copper wire? or is it even important?
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:34 PM   #6
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Hahahaha! Ya, I like to think I'm hard-core strong....(reality is I only weigh 120 pounds), and I did have to utilize a hammer to the end of the ratchet in the tightening of that bolt...
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:38 PM   #7
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Re: Loosening off tension/idler pulley

It's function is to bond the hood to the rest of the body. If the hood is not bonded, the only hazard is that it can pick up static electricity as you drive. This static electricity has the potential to render electronics items useless, items such as your on board computer. The chances of it happening are low, but there is a chance none the less. So it's best to repair or replace the bond strap. You can use a piece of copper wire and it will last for a while, but it does not have the durability or flexibility of the bond strap. I would use the wire for now and get an exact replacement when you can and then change it. Your call on that one.
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Old 09-18-2008, 01:46 PM   #8
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Re: Loosening off tension/idler pulley

Humm, interesting......while driving through the States last month, my heater/fan kept shutting off for no reason....and would come back on for no reason.....maybe "the strap" is the reason.....Thanks again for your all your help, I'm in a great mood now, where as before I was getting close to tears out of frustration. Plus now I have a feeling of accomplishment instead of defeat! Well I hope someone helps you if you ever need it, wish it could be me, but can't see that happening, haha
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Re: Loosening off tension/idler pulley

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my heater/fan kept shutting off for no reason....and would come back on for no reason.

That is usually caused by a broken fan speed resistor element. The part is about $15 at the dealer and takes about 5 minutes to change. It's under the hood mounted by 2 screws on top of that big black box on the passenger side with a 4-wire connector going to it.

Other possibilities are a bad speed switch, or a burnt wire at that 4-wire connector I mentioned above. But like I said, the resistor is the usual culprit.
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:13 PM   #10
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Wow, you know your stuff! I just went out and looked at that connector, and guess what? It's busted! That black plastic casing stuff is broken right off the side of it, so one of those metal connections has been completely exposed, and is green AND blue...pretty crusty looking, and is all by himself now, not with the other three. Well I'm gonna have to fix that, I hate not having heat in the winter. Geezus, you should be getting paid for this advice! I didn't know where to look for this heat shortage problem! This is awesome! *Are you a real mechanic?*
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:31 PM   #11
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Re: Loosening off tension/idler pulley

No I'm not a mechanic I'm actually an electrician, I'm self-taught in automotive stuff over a 30 year period. You can get the repair pigtail from the dealer (about $55). If they can't find a listing ask for part #5019941AA, at the same time you get the blower resistor. The repair pigtail comes with everything you need (except the resistor) to replace that connector.
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:54 PM   #12
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Thanks for the info, Electrician! I'll have to track down a Dodge dealer around here....Wow, you just fixed up all my dodge problems today, this is so cool. Can I call on you again, say at a later date, if I have problems again?
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:01 PM   #13
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Just post and I'll respond when I see it (if I know the answer.)
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:18 PM   #14
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Re: Loosening off tension/idler pulley

I went looking and found you can order the pigtail online at http://www.moparpartsamerica.com

Then cut & paste 5019941AA into the parts search box (select Dodge in the drop down box) and you'll be brought to the listing for $34.
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:14 PM   #15
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Re: Loosening off tension/idler pulley

Looks like I'll have to go get the part manually ..Mopar won't deliver outside of the U.S. (I'm in Ontario), too bad though, that's a great site, easy to order from, like you said, just cut and paste that number in there, and bang, it shows up. I'll call around tomorrow, and see if I can find one. Thanks again Alloro!
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