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Old 02-23-2002, 12:49 AM   #16
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Great conversation guyz, i learned a lot, kinda. n e ways i have a simple question WHY DID YOU BUY THE WAGON??? and why did subaru make the WRX so ugly?(of course thats my opinion, but lots seem to agree with me)?? it seems like they spent all of their time on performance(which is okay) but c'mon at least make it look good so when get beat your all "that car's so f****** PHAT." instead of "ya its fast".
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Old 02-23-2002, 01:45 AM   #17
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Great conversation guyz, i learned a lot, kinda. n e ways i have a simple question WHY DID YOU BUY THE WAGON??? and why did subaru make the WRX so ugly?(of course thats my opinion, but lots seem to agree with me)?? it seems like they spent all of their time on performance(which is okay) but c'mon at least make it look good so when get beat your all "that car's so f****** PHAT." instead of "ya its fast".
yeah well i thought it was ugly too when i bought it, but hell im only gonna see it from the inside so what do i care? i like the phrase "u dont like the way my headlights look? thats fine, cuz youre only gonna see my taillights..." however after having it for a week or so the look really grows on ya, and i like it now it makes a lot of the other cars on the road look dated. i have gotten a hell of a lot of compliments from random people at gas stations, stores, etc... so i guess a lot of people do like the way it looks. and ive found a lot of girls really like the looks a lot, ive had a few at the street races say "wow that car turns me on".

as for why did i buy the wagon, why would anyone buy the sedan? i mean u pay the same price but u dont get that extra little bit of car, talk about getting ripped

no seriously i wanted to be different, ive always liked the looks of hatchbacks, especially wagons cuz i think they look a lot fuller than sedans. and can u say SOUND SYSTEM? a wagon is PERFECT for it! and i like my sound systems! and performance wise, after having driven both sedan and wagon, i find the wagon to be a bit faster on the road, the extra 80 lbs over the rear helping to rotate the rear end a little when the sedan just understeers.

btw it seems cooler if u forget the word wagon and think of it as a lowered SUV
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Old 02-23-2002, 10:29 AM   #18
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, why are the times for the WRX so close to the ITR's? What mods do you have?
Probably cause the WRX is a hella heavy car. Compare it
WRX= +/-3200 lb and the ITR is about 2600-2700

The stock WRX(turbo) Makes 14.6sec bone stock in the 1/4(slow huh? for a 227hp 200+lb/ft car). Also AWD cars launches are hella slow compared to front or rear wheel drive cars.
I know someone with an ITR hatch pushing 205whp and he beats the crap out of modded wrx's. He pushes a 13.4 sec on the 1/4 all motor full interior and street tires.
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Old 02-23-2002, 02:40 PM   #19
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btw it seems cooler if u forget the word wagon and think of it as a lowered SUV
thats a good way of putting it no really, n e ways it seems that your extremely satisfied with you decision, and i think im gonna give the WRX another chance MABYE, i dont know if my baby teg would like that j/k
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Probably cause the WRX is a hella heavy car. Compare it
WRX= +/-3200 lb and the ITR is about 2600-2700

The stock WRX(turbo) Makes 14.6sec bone stock in the 1/4(slow huh? for a 227hp 200+lb/ft car). Also AWD cars launches are hella slow compared to front or rear wheel drive cars.
man have u read any of my posts in this thread? i swear i could hit a 13 in a STOCK wrx. hell i could prob hit a 14.6 in my impreza and its not a wrx. ive already hit 14.9s in it and that was whit a passenger. plus that was a long time ago, im faster now. and yes its prettly much stock i dont see an intake and a universal muffler helping my times very much.

and how are awd cars slow compared to fwd? i dont see many civics or integras smoking porsche turbos, skylines, or lamborghini diablos do u?

i though the fastest fwd in the world was running 8s. sorry guy but there are STREET LEGAL awds running that.

oh and a new impreza only weighs 3000 lbs, at least thats what mine weighs and its a wagon, the sedan is 80 lbs lighter.
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Probably cause the WRX is a hella heavy car. Compare it
WRX= +/-3200 lb and the ITR is about 2600-2700

The stock WRX(turbo) Makes 14.6sec bone stock in the 1/4(slow huh? for a 227hp 200+lb/ft car). Also AWD cars launches are hella slow compared to front or rear wheel drive cars.
I know someone with an ITR hatch pushing 205whp and he beats the crap out of modded wrx's. He pushes a 13.4 sec on the 1/4 all motor full interior and street tires.
i wasn't asking why the itr is so close to the wrx, i know why, i was trying to make a point by saying "how can a n/a inpreza beat a itr if a wrx and itr are so even"
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Old 02-24-2002, 12:21 AM   #22
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Also AWD cars launches are hella slow compared to front or rear wheel drive cars.
if there was ever a statement that was the complete opposite of any common sense...

okay if an awd and a 2wd car both have the same tires. and the 2wd car can put 100 hp to the ground from a standstill without breaking loose the tires, then the awd car can put 200hp down without breaking loose. if the 2wd can put 400hp down without breaking loose, the awd can put 800hp... with the same tires on both the awd will have double the amount of rubber putting power to the ground as a 2wd.

dude just think for a moment before u post next time...
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Ya that statement about awd launcing slow is bull. I've seen a Porsce at the strip and when it launches it actually looked like it was "Jumping" or flying off the line , no shit. It was crazy
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Old 02-24-2002, 10:07 PM   #24
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Ya that statement about awd launcing slow is bull. I've seen a Porsce at the strip and when it launches it actually looked like it was "Jumping" or flying off the line , no shit. It was crazy
yeah man, my car "jumps" and it doesnt even really have much power at all. i can imagine a porsche...
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Why? The ITR is as fast as the WRX and the same price
Why don't you just get a real Honda:hehe:
sorry to rain on your parade but the ITR would get smoked by a WRX. Worse yet this summer the WRX Sti version should be hitting US soil and even a turbo ITR wouldnt have a chance against that beast.
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lowered SUV? SUVs are the scum of the earth.

id rather have a wagon
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sorry to rain on your parade but the ITR would get smoked by a WRX. Worse yet this summer the WRX Sti version should be hitting US soil and even a turbo ITR wouldnt have a chance against that beast.
OK youre correct, I checked out some other sources, the WRX shows better times in most other tests than in Sport Comapct Car's. The WRX is the faster car. I guess ldelaysionl is right, they must not have known how to effectively launch it. The times vary a lot, like SCC says itr 6.1, wrx 6.2.
C&D got 5.4 out of the WRX, nearly a second quicker, while mustering 6.6 in the itr, .5 slower. hum
I guess it really does depend on the driver, especially in the WRX

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Old 02-25-2002, 10:20 PM   #28
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lowered SUV? SUVs are the scum of the earth.

id rather have a wagon
well yeah i dont like suv's, but i came up with the lowered suv thing to tell these guys who actually drove a lowered suv around and asked me why i bought something as uncool as a wagon, i was like wtf???
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Why? The ITR is as fast as the WRX and the same price
Why don't you just get a real Honda:hehe:
What is an ITR?
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Integra Type R, anyways, why do people think that the way to launch is rev to redline and drop the clutch? I thouight the idea was to NOT spin the tires.

Id rather have my tires pulling me forward than spinning and making smokie, especially on a RWD and FWD cars, but since imprezas are AWD, they might not spin as easy, but then there is the problem that guy says about bogging the egine, lets se, if the tires arenyt spinning but the clutch is out and the car isnt moving, the engine will be slowed down alot, whivch makes a difference, but I just dont think that is how the guys at the magazines drive, Id fire em if that is how they drove the cars and got the numbers for me to publish
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