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Old 08-11-2004, 02:47 PM   #31
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

"Passing" emmissions is something that is different in each state.

Removing emmissions equipment is against federal law.
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Old 08-11-2004, 02:50 PM   #32
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

Here in Canada, only Ontario has this "Drive Clean" program for cars that are 15 years or younger. All other cars do not need to take the test
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Old 08-11-2004, 03:05 PM   #33
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Re: Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

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they got it down to 8.95? thats beast, last time i looked at the lingenvette it was a low 9.

also, it stands to reason that there is a difference between driving a car on the street and being street legal (talking about the 990 hp supra)...
here it is: http://lingenfelter.com/images/CF427TT_eprint.pdf
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Old 08-11-2004, 03:09 PM   #34
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Notice the cover says "street driven" ... not "street legal"
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Old 08-11-2004, 03:49 PM   #35
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

Ah, but notice that the third page says completely street legal
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Old 08-11-2004, 04:07 PM   #36
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If you have turbos or a S/C the times you talk about must be with the amount of boost you run on the street and pump gas. None of this I drive it on the street all the time at 14psi and pump gas but when I get to the track I use my boost controller/change pulley and run 25psi with 120 octane race fuel to run 9's BS either. (IMO)
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Old 08-11-2004, 04:16 PM   #37
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

I agree, it would be pointless to have a car running nines on the street anyway. Unless a top fuel dragster happened along.
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Old 08-11-2004, 05:13 PM   #38
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Re: Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

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I agree, it would be pointless to have a car running nines on the street anyway. Unless a top fuel dragster happened along.
...and you'd still get your ass handed to you by a few seconds and over a hundred mph...

The goal for my car is mid-high 10s on pump gas, high 9s to low 10s in 'race mode'. With a 3150lb car(wet), thats roughly 500hp at the wheels for 'street mode'. to break into 9s, thats around 650hp to the wheels. So I'm shootin for 600flywheel-hp in 'street mode' and 800flywheel-hp in 'race mode'. Race mode consists of more boost and higher octane gas, and slicks. Hopefully the motor will be done in a month, then I can spend the winter finishing the rest of the car, and be ready to race come spring. This is a street driven '69 stang, not a trailer queen. Turbos are the way to go for a streetable car that really moves when told to.

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Old 08-11-2004, 05:18 PM   #39
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two words....high maintenance biotch.....ok, make that three then
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Old 08-11-2004, 06:16 PM   #40
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

500 hp and a 3150 lb car... for 10 second runs in the quarter? yet the Ford GT only does it in 12.2...
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

The Ford GT isnt set up for drag racing and its more than 3150lbs according to Ford. I think its somewhere around 3400, dry. With a bit of fuel(enough to get you down the track) and a light driver(160lbs, thats what I weigh), you're around 3575lbs. Also Ford's HP readings are for flywheel-hp, so its probably putting 450-475hp to the wheels(if the 550hp is correct, some people report its more than that). So you've got a car not set up for drag racing with 475rwhp and weighing 3575lbs wet vs a drag car with 500rwhp and weighing 3150lbs wet... Not trying to be a dick, but yeah, 500rwhp in a 3150lb car set up for drag racing should get you into 10s. High 10s, like 10.8-10.99. But 10s none the less.

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Old 08-11-2004, 06:46 PM   #42
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

3390 curb test weight w/ 550hp

and numbers look great on paper, i just think they'd be a bit higher
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Old 08-11-2004, 06:54 PM   #43
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

quick question, what does "wet" mean, like full tank of gas?

"With a 3150lb car(wet)"
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:34 PM   #44
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Re: How fast is a really fast street car?

I think a fast car street car is either a) anything faster than a corvette or b) anything faster than a 13 second 1/4 mile. No one will tell you a corvette is slow. No one. Well, at least not anyone with half a brain.

And a "street car" is a car that's comfortable to commute in, can be used year round in whatever region it resides in, runs well off pump gass, idles semi-smoothly, has most of its interior still in place, is reliable enough to trust with multiple-day drives, etc, etc, etc.
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That depends on what year corvette your talking about. I think the Mustang GT is used more often as the barrier between not fast and fast. It runs 14 flat which is a number that is generally only reached or beaten by decently fast sports cars. Frankly I think the standards are different depending on the car at hand. If you have a camaro or mustang, your fast if your in low 13s or the 12s, but i would consider a a sport compact fast if it broke below the 14 second mark.
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