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Old 08-24-2004, 12:43 PM   #1
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F1 crash @ Monterey

I've heard rumors about the 99' Ferrari F1 car crashing at the Monterey Historic Races. Anybody know anything about it?
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:02 PM   #2
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damn i didn't hear that...that would be ashame....wonder how they got their hands on the f1 car in the first place....

if anybody knows what ferrari does with their old f1 cars i would like to know
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:23 PM   #3
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Re: F1 crash @ Monterey

I'm afraid that it's true. After an indepth analysis, the car is going to be destroyed. What a shame.

Read the story here: http://www.theprancinghorse.co.uk/ne...g/2004/23.html
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Old 08-30-2004, 05:48 PM   #4
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Re: F1 crash @ Monterey

What a ridiculous report, full of holes. The car will be crushed? Not a chance. I'd also wager that the car experienced a structural failure, because was a repaired monocoque only intended as a show car, not strong enough for racing again.
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Old 08-30-2004, 05:51 PM   #5
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Re: F1 crash @ Monterey

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if anybody knows what ferrari does with their old f1 cars i would like to know
Sells them. Given the evidence of this story some of them are a bit dodgy as well.
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Old 09-03-2004, 08:55 AM   #6
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Ferrari F1 cars

Ferrari does "sell" their F1 cars. They have a 2001 model for sale now for @ 1 million pounds. The cars can be raced in historic events such as Monterey. However, Ferrari keeps custody of the cars and (for a price) ships them with a technician that helps set up the car, starts it (you can't just start an F1 car. A specific computer program is required to start the car and then "tune" it up to race form. No, they don't sell the computer and software with the car.) and so forth.After the event, Ferrari takes the car back to the stable and reworks or repairs it at the owners expense if needed. So, it works almost like a lease. It is not cheap. I suppose you could just purchase the car and display it, but Ferrari is selective about who they sell these cars to and really wants them to be "raced".

This information used to be on their website, but the site was changed recently and I cannot find a link to it anymore.
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Old 09-03-2004, 09:22 AM   #7
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Re: F1 crash @ Monterey

Are you sure they want them to be raced? Given the quite large number of chassis built and the very small number actually competing around race tracks, I wonder.

Going from memory there was a F310B bought by the owner of The Prancing Horse racing team in Australia a few years back. The arrangement was similar to as you describe. Ferrari did not sell them the engine management software at the time so they couldn't run it without flying a Ferrari technician out from Italy to load it. However there was time period (about five years IIRC) agreed upon after which the code would be made available. Presumably because the Ferrari works cars would have moved on and the software would not longer be seen as "sensitive".
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Old 09-07-2004, 09:46 AM   #8
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Re: Ferrari F1 cars

thanks
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that was very interesting and informative
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Old 09-07-2004, 11:53 AM   #9
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Re: Re: F1 crash @ Monterey

[quote=RallyRaider]Are you sure they want them to be raced? Given the quite large number of chassis built and the very small number actually competing around race tracks, I wonder. [quote]

http://www.montereyhistoric.com

Take a look around...especially at the Ferrari Formula 1 Pics. Seemed to be plenty of old F1s running laps during the event.
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Re: F1 crash @ Monterey

Indeed, as you say OLD F1s. The only new one is the F2003GA and judging by the number of Ferrari Team members around, that is being demonstrated by the factory. Anybody recognise the helmet colours of the driver? After that the newest I can see is the 1999 F399 which is outside the five year cutoff and shouldn't have been racing given the way it broke!
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Old 09-07-2004, 06:00 PM   #11
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http://fast-autos.net/features/04historics/index.html

F2003-GA driven by Andrea Bertolini
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Old 09-07-2004, 06:04 PM   #12
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Re: F1 crash @ Monterey

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Andrea Bertolini, Ferrari's factory test driver
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