Acclereation...!!!! - Page 3

Veetec · 01-25-2002, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by supafly1024

Yeah, it make take a little while to ship the parts but I think that it would be well worth it when you consider the price difference. If you want to know more about the VAFC click on this link http://www.apexi-usa.com/productdocu...onics_vafc.pdf that should tell you some more about it. As far as what I've done to my car...well as far as performance goes I've put an intake, header, and exhaust on it.

A german ITR driver wrote me today and he told me I should get a "Power FC" or a "Haltech ECU" in combination with AEM´s adjustable cam gears instead of the VAFC but I couldn´t find these two products anywhere yet! (didn´t had much time, too) Does anybody know these products?

drift · 01-25-2002, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Veetec
A german ITR driver wrote me today and he told me I should get a "Power FC" or a "Haltech ECU" in combination with AEM´s adjustable cam gears instead of the VAFC but I couldn´t find these two products anywhere yet! (didn´t had much time, too) Does anybody know these products?

A'pexi doesnt make a Power FC with baseline software for the H22A. you COULD use a GSR type PowerFC to get your baseline settings and then tune everything on the dyno.

kenchan · 01-25-2002, 05:03 PM

yeah, definitely get a cold intake and a vafc. those 2 really helped out my acceleration. i ride a ss too, so has kinda whimpy low-end torque. but with the fuel leaned -5% or little more, the motor can wind up much faster than stock.

get wheel spin even with sp8000's.

Veetec · 01-26-2002, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by kenchan
yeah, definitely get a cold intake and a vafc. those 2 really helped out my acceleration. i ride a ss too, so has kinda whimpy low-end torque. but with the fuel leaned -5% or little more, the motor can wind up much faster than stock. get wheel spin even with sp8000's.

A SS???(

) Is it a Camaro or what? I don´t think you can compare a Lude and a Camaro engine with each other? Or what do you mean with "SS"?
I don´t have any money left anyways in the moment! But because of the good info which all of you gave me I´ve got an idea now what I can do in the future. Suspension and looks will be the first things I´ll take care about ( Koni yellows and Eibach springs arrived yesterday, Neuspeed strut tower bar and white turning lights are on the way!

)
So thanx a lot for your help.....

buh_buh · 01-26-2002, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Veetec
A SS???( ) Is it a Camaro or what? I don´t think you can compare a Lude and a Camaro engine with each other? Or what do you mean with "SS"?

SS stands for Sport Shift

Veetec · 01-26-2002, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by buh_buh

SS stands for Sport Shift

Oh. sorry! My fault!

So in other words it has got an auto tranny??

buh_buh · 01-26-2002, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Veetec
So in other words it has got an auto tranny??

yeap

Veetec · 01-26-2002, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by kenchan
get wheel spin even with sp8000's.

I´d bet that my wheels are spininng even more!! (especially when it´s wet) The stock tires are really crappy!

supafly1024 · 01-28-2002, 07:53 AM

I get wheel spin on my Falken Ziex tires, with my SS transmission.

Veetec · 01-28-2002, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by supafly1024
I get wheel spin on my Falken Ziex tires, with my SS transmission.

I even had wheel spin with my first Honda, an 1.5l SOHC non-VTEC Civic with 90hp!

One question to the SS owners: Why have you bought the Lude with the SS?? I mean, it accelerates about two seconds slower from 0-60mp/h than the one with the manual tranny!

And then you spent a lot of money on aftermarket parts to make is as fast as the one with the manual tranny. Don´t get me wrong! It´s your car and if you like it like that then everything is fine! I´m just curious....

supafly1024 · 01-28-2002, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Veetec
I even had wheel spin with my first Honda, an 1.5l SOHC non-VTEC Civic with 90hp!
One question to the SS owners: Why have you bought the Lude with the SS?? I mean, it accelerates about two seconds slower from 0-60mp/h than the one with the manual tranny! And then you spent a lot of money on aftermarket parts to make is as fast as the one with the manual tranny. Don´t get me wrong! It´s your car and if you like it like that then everything is fine! I´m just curious....

Reason A) I got a good deal on my SS Lude
Reason B) It's still faster than a Civic, which is what I used to have
Reason C) Sometimes having to shift gears all the time gets old, with the SS transmission if you want to shift you can, but if you want to let the car do the work you can do that also.
Reason D) I don't have to shell out any money because of a clutch going bad.

I like the Prelude, that's why I bought one, I didn't buy it to drag race or anything like that, it's a daily driver so the SS tranny is fine with me, at least it's a little better than a regular automatic.

Veetec · 01-28-2002, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by supafly1024

Reason A) I got a good deal on my SS Lude
Reason B) It's still faster than a Civic, which is what I used to have
Reason C) Sometimes having to shift gears all the time gets old, with the SS transmission if you want to shift you can, but if you want to let the car do the work you can do that also.
Reason D) I don't have to shell out any money because of a clutch going bad.

I like the Prelude, that's why I bought one, I didn't buy it to drag race or anything like that, it's a daily driver so the SS tranny is fine with me, at least it's a little better than a regular automatic.

Okay. Thanx for your honest answer!

Veetec · 01-28-2002, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Veetec
I even had wheel spin with my first Honda, an 1.5l SOHC non-VTEC Civic with 90hp!
One question to the SS owners: Why have you bought the Lude with the SS?? I mean, it accelerates about two seconds slower from 0-60mp/h than the one with the manual tranny! And then you spent a lot of money on aftermarket parts to make is as fast as the one with the manual tranny. Don´t get me wrong! It´s your car and if you like it like that then everything is fine! I´m just curious....

I forgot to write that this Civic was also an automatic one!

supafly1024 · 01-28-2002, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by Veetec
Okay. Thanx for your honest answer!

No prob.

flylwsi · 01-30-2002, 06:37 PM

note from the first page of posts...
the 4th gen did not have a b20. that was the 88-91 prelude.

a good way to get the down low hp is with some cam gears, b/c you dont necessarily need hp, you need tq to get you movin...

also note... the 2.65hp increase that header gives is the average, and there are points along the powerband where you can find spikes that are pretty high... a header does give noticeable power that is definitely worth it...

the vtec crossover moving type devices, vafc, or the jr piece, are both nice in that they move your aggressive cam lobes into a more usable range... the jackson piece is even good to switch over at 2500 rpm... the major factor is that the product you use has the ecu switching to the vtec lobe, so it adds on the timing and fuel curves for the vtec lobe... some just switch the vtec solenoid, but dont add the fuel maps...

and the crossover point is a personal preference really, but 3500 would most likely be ideal, depending on what rpm you cruise at most, b/c if you cruise under that, it wont take long to get into the vtec craziness...

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