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07-11-2003, 12:42 AM | #1 | |
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Auto wrx
for those of you out there with an automatic wrx, how do you like it?? I'm interested in the manual and the automatic, but i do a lot of city driving, so automatic is probably the best for me. Please tell me what you like and what you don't like about the automatic,
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07-12-2003, 03:34 AM | #2 | |
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Drove an auto WRX before we got the manual wagon. All I can say is that the auto tranny is a horrible match for the engine. I do tons of city driving also , in fact all 8500 miles have been in the city so far , and I see no problems with the 5-spd in the city. Unless you live in NY city , I'd get the 5-spd . If you want an auto-equipped car for city driving only , get the 2.5 RS. Lots more torque down lower which is really what the auto tranny needs to get it moving. Seemed like the auto WRX never got out of its "black hole" And I've seen them at the drag strip also , they go slower than the Honda's. I'm pulling 14's with the 5-spd , the auto WRX's I saw were 16's and worse.
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07-13-2003, 09:54 AM | #3 | |
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is there anybody else out there who actually bought the auto and who are regretting buying it?? The main reason that I should get the auto is because I drove the manual and killed it a couple times because I couldn't figure out the AWD launch. I'm gonna go drive the manual again, and this time, give it more gas, but if I still can't figure it out, i have to get the auto.
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07-13-2003, 04:17 PM | #4 | |
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Its just a matter of "slipping" the clutch a little more than you normally would. Are you talking about a hard drag-race style launch , or just a normal street launch. Normal street launchs just require a little more rpms and feathering the clutch. Prolly 1500 rpm is good , and step into it a bit as you let off the clutch. WRX motors are pretty weak til the turbo kicks in , its because of the low compression ratio. Trust me , you'd rather have the 5-spd. It'll be fine after you get used to it. I take it you've never driven an AWD car before?
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07-13-2003, 05:10 PM | #5 | |
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I have driven an AWD before, but that was in an SUV, not in a subaru. yes, I was talking about a normal street launch. I do believe that I'll get used to it, but i'm just scared now. hehe
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07-13-2003, 10:31 PM | #6 | |
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I have an auto wrx. I test drove both (although I admit I wasn't exactly familiar with the 5mt especially as you said with all wheel drive, bogged down like crazy). Anyways its been a great car so far. I've since added a protorque modified torque converter which evens the playing field with manuals performance wise as well as a ton of other mods.
The one thing that really scared me away from manuals is that if you're into modifying I kept reading horror stories on Subaru boards of how the US 5-speed was known as a "glass tranny" and would break without much effort, and if you had as much as a Turboback exhaust you would be screwed out getting it fixed under warranty. One of my friends with a modified manual wrx w/ a VF23 is on his third transmission so far. It definately makes the difference in city daily driving and stop and go on highways coming in and out of the city. The only downfall so far has been my friends giving me grief for driving an automatic lol... but them Anyway either are great cars, good luck with that
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07-13-2003, 11:52 PM | #7 | |
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does somebody out there know the actual difference of 0-60 times between the manual and the auto? Quarter mile?
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07-14-2003, 12:17 AM | #8 | ||
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I like stick shifts , because I like to be in control of what gear I'm in. Automatics always seem to be in the wrong gear.
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07-14-2003, 12:29 AM | #9 | |
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Year 2002 .................................................. ..............2002
Make Subaru .................................................. ..........Subaru Model Impreza .................................................. .......Impreza Trim WRX Sedan .................................................. .....WRX Sedan Transmission 4-speed Automatic ............................5-speed Manual Theoretical Top Speed 143 mph ..................................143 mph Limited Top Speed 0-30 mph 1.86 s .................................................. .......1.49 s 0-40 mph 2.82 s .................................................. ........3.06 s 0-50 mph 4.78 s .................................................. ........4.23 s 0-60 mph 6.50 s .................................................. ..........5.55 s 0-70 mph 8.40 s .................................................. .........8.00 s 0-80 mph 10.87 s .................................................. ........9.98 s 0-90 mph 14.70 s .................................................. ........12.55 s 0-100 mph 18.50 s .................................................. ....... 16.71 s 0-110 mph 23.09 s .................................................. ........ 20.73 s 0-120 mph 30.11 s .................................................. ........ 26.19 s 0-130 mph 45.07 s .................................................. ........38.80 s 0-140 mph 77.51 s .................................................. ........ 66.07 s 30-50, 2nd gear 3.35 s .................................................. ......2.27 s 100 ft 2.79 s @ 39.7 mph .......................................... 2.65 s @ 37.09 mph 500 ft 7.87 s @ 67.36 mph 7.60 s @ 67.84 mph 660 ft (1/8 mile) 9.41 s @ 74.62 mph ..........................9.12 s @ 75.8 mph 1320 ft (1/4 mile) 14.84 s @ 91.02 mph ......................14.34 s @ 93.79 mph 2640 ft (1/2 mile) 23.71 s @ 111.16 mph ..................... 22.94 s @ 114.64 mph 5280 ft (1 mile) 38.71 s @ 126 mph ............................. 37.54 s @ 129.13 mph 7920 ft (1.5 mile) 52.54 s @ 133.61 mph ......................... 51.07 s @ 136.19 mph I don't beleive these times to be accurate. I've watched automatic Subaru WRX's run horrible 17 sec 1/4 mile times here in Colorado. My personal 1/4 mile time is in my sig. I beleive those times may be possible at sea level , but at 6300 feet a lot of things change.
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07-14-2003, 10:50 AM | #10 | |
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i can drive a manual, and I would like to get one, but does anybody have any special tricks for a normal street launch? (other than giving it more gas). Because I haven't had a chance to try giving it more gas yet, but I've heard from a lot of people that that is why I kept bogging it down. That's the main reason why I was looking at the automatic.
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07-14-2003, 03:53 PM | #11 | |
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Heh quartermile performance is suuuuch a sketchy way of measuring a cars worth. I've seen a stock manual WRX run a 16.8 and a stock Evolution run a 15.5 in the same run (at sea level, decent weather). E.T.'s don't say a whole lot to me. The auto WRX you saw run a 17 might not have brake torqued properly or at all for that matter. But there definately is difference in performance between the 5MT and the 4EAT regardless. The mods list in my sig is about 9 months old but since I've picked up a protorque TC (as well as full exhaust and unichip). I can easily keep up with 5-speed's with the same mods. Dealers won't "void" your warranty per se but they certainly deny service if it looks too "modded"... the place I bought my car I've never had my car worked on there since but I've heard of people getting turned down with coilovers as the only modification etc. I guess the one advantage to Auto WRX's is that they have a better all wheel drive system (similar to torsen on Audi's rather than the Viscous diff on the 5spd WRX) and variable torque distribution (similar to the US STI driver controlled center diff on 'auto' mode) which Manuals don't. Oh yeah this isn't strictly the best example but the fastest WRX in the US, Easy Street Motorsports, is an automatic and has broken into the 9's
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You're good pals with Ali and the ESM crew and you're in Denver? At last I had heard they were thinking of replacing the tranny on their car with a dog box and were currently running a 4EAT that they made a 9 sec pass with because they kept breaking 5 speeds left and right. Despite what they say, their setup isnt very realistic for a street car since the dogbox is so noisy and the T66 would take forever to spool without a shot of nitrous to get it going, plus it only reaches full boost at redline. For me there are better turbos out there capable of making crazy power (maybe not that much ) and still have decent low end. Unless you're going for a full drag car thats something I'd hate to drive on the daily kick.
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07-15-2003, 05:17 AM | #15 | |
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