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Old 03-09-2005, 03:50 PM   #16
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Also, like sr said, to hit 160+ you need tons of batteries, sound deadener or cement, master/slave amps etc. It's not buying some subs and amps and calling it a day, it's expensive as hell. Also, it's very rare that any of the top spl guys use caps(I'm aware I have a cap in the sig before people start riding me for it, it's been there forever and I'm too lazy to disconnect it).
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:12 PM   #17
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

BTW you won't hit a 180 I'm skeptical as if anyone will ever hit a 180. The world record right now is a 176.something by sweeds or finns or sumthin. The highest level posible is 190db......your not getting to 10db under the loudest possible...... If you wanna quit bein a dumbass car audio NOOB and face the fact that you don't know shit.....then come to us and get our opinions on how you could do mid 140's to 150 THEN we might be more willing to help.

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Busted old Van: 1000
12 12's : 7500
24 high powered amps: 12000
48 yellow tops 9600
shittons of wiring 150
head unit to run it 100
line driver dunno well call it 400
MDF for a wall 250
resin and hardener 100
alternators...... hmm well if you only bruping then 1000 but to run daily u would need more alts then would fit under the hood.....so well say 1000
32 grand $32,000.00
That's for a van that can only burp, not play music, and it would be a total POS. hmm come to think of it you'll also need a TL and help cuz god knows u couldn't do it yourself..... THEN you would be getting close to 170. Prolly not breaking it. Be realistic NOOB.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:18 PM   #18
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

ohh yea..... I guarantee that guy can't help you to hit a 170 with twice the equipment listed.
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

i dont recall saying i was on a budget. i dont care what the cost is. i realize it is going to be a massive install. batteries, alternators, etc. but if a friend of mine can hit 150 with one 15, then i should get at least 10 more than that with 2 times the speaker and 4 times the power. by the way kmoney, every 3 db is doubling your sound, not 1.

bumpinstang, get over yourself. i know more about hooking up systems than you think. not that i have to prove myself to you. i happen to be an electronics warfare technician in the us navy. ive been through two years of technician schools. i could build an amp blindfolded from spare parts. so shut the fuck up. you have no idea what your talkin about
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

also, the guy with the 3 15s record is an unofficial florida state record. the competition was held at the Pensacola Fairgrounds. the accuracy of the mic does not concern me, what does is that it was the loudest system i have ever heard and if i hook the same db meter up in my car i want it to read the same. not to say that the mic wasn't just as accurate as any other, but it is possible that it's off a little.
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

i have no idea what I'm talkin about LOL come to me when u can hit a 140 on the TL w/ 2 12's tuned to 28hz and 300 watts. your a dumbass u prolly couldn't even name the major components inside an amp much less even build one..... you prove yourself to be an idiot everytime you post...... u will never hit 170 it takes more then money and equipment.
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

whatever dude. im done. i didn't post so i could argue. this is not yahoo chat where everyone acts like bitches and talks shit when nothing can be proven or solved from either end. just leave it alone and when i get it hooked up, ill let you know what im hitting. i talked to my buddy logan. he is gonna help me out. maybe you are right, we will find out.
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Old 03-09-2005, 05:47 PM   #23
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

Chills Germany.....
Go get an astro van.
Wait untill RE comes out with their new subs that will move 4" P2P
Get about 10 of them. get you a giant enclosure and put them in there.
Make the enclosure small and tuned high with lots of port area.
Because the more port area you have the less the cone will move with a given wattage this will allow for more burp wattage.
Get you a shit load of SH-1's. or something similar. give each speaker about 15,000w.
Put as many altinators as you can under the hood.
load what rooms you have left with deep cycle batteries. oh and you might want a signal processor and something to syncronize all of the amp outputs so that you get maximum output.
with you building it you still wont hit 170dB but it will be loud anyway. burp only with that sort of wattage.
oh and i bet yo ucant afford it. Bumpin was giving basic figures. it still cost more than that. and for a van that can only do short burps and not even play music lead alone be driven....
and FYI 180-190dB is right around the loudest you can get with normal atmospheric pressure. now if you'd like to buy a sumbmarine and take it down 15,000ft so you can hit 200dB i will be right behind you.
and if you really want to talk to some one who can "help" you head over to AOL chat rooms. there is some person in there claiming they are alma gates. she has hit into the 170's with somehting like 64 kickers. its pretty sad when scottie can do what she is doing with 1/5 the woofers.
oh and 3dB doubles wattage.
2000w hitting 140dB
4000w hitting 143dB
8000w hitting 146dB
16000w hitting 149dB
32000w hitting 152dB
64000w hitting 155dB
128000w hitting 158dB
256000w hitting 161dB
512000w hitting 164dB
1024000w hitting 167dB
2048000w hitting 170dB
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

who is scottie?
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

by the way, i was checking out the pioneer website. they have a ford pickup with 9 12" pioneers that broke and official national record. he does have quite a few amps adding up to shitloads of wattage. why i dont know. the subs could not possibly be receiving all of it. there is no way they could handle it.
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This is a lost cause, for the most part, people here are gonna rip on you, try taking your question to the competition section of car audio forums, perhaps you might have better luck but I don't know. Though for the statement that everyone argues that their stuff is the best....
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

any coil can handle massive ammounts of wattage for very short periods of time (which are what burps are) so much that usually you will hit the suspension limit before frying the coil for that short period of time. which is how you can feed an XXX15 20,000w in a boom box for 1/2-1sec and hit mid150's....
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

but over 100000 watts to 9 twelves. that is pretty interesting
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

oh i forgot, this guy with the pioneer ford said in his interview that it was bumping for like 5 minutes. maybe only half power or something.
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Re: who can help me hit 170 db?

he is running TSW5000SPL 12s. i might look into these instead of the eclipses. also i just found out that mtx makes a 22" sub called the jackhammer. that is insane. probly sounds like shit.
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