prelude vs mustang

[bigbob]

syr74----i own a mustang, my brother has a prelude im all about the muscle cars over the imports but i no from exsperience that his prelude beats mustangs with v8's in them a v6 wouldnt hold a candle

[CobraR2000]

i love mustangs but a v6 pony with no power added to it just doesnt have the power to be put in a race.

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally Posted by CobraR2000

i love mustangs but a v6 pony with no power added to it just doesnt have the power to be put in a race.

This is a foolish statement. With the newer ('99-up) Mustang V6s running consistent 15s, even low 15s out of the box, they are truely a contender. If a car running low 15s is not worthy of a race, then you are cutting out most of the muscle cars from the 60s, along with stock '94-98 Mustang GTs. I love Mustangs with V8s, and I will only own a V8 Mustang; however, I am not foolish enough to dismiss a car because of its perceived inferiority.


Jon

[syr74]

Well bigbob....put simply....it looks as though some V-8 Mustang drivers your brother runs into don't know how to drive. No offense, or flame intended.

First of all, I suggest you qualify your statement as Ford has built Mustangs for forty years now. Six and eight cylinders both have been available nearly every year so you might want to narrow down which Mustangs your brothers Prelude can supposedly smoke.

Second of all, a 99 and up GT will hammer a 94 or 95 GT....so you may even want to differentiate in more modern years. "My brothers so and so can beat a V-8 Mustang" is a statement about as broad, flat, uninformative and tired as Kansas.

Also, is your brother's Prelude stock. Yes, my brothers CRX with the JATO rocket strapped to the roof can kill a Modena from a roll....I may want to mention it is modified when I make this claim.

Lastly, as I mentioned to begin with, I cannot think of a single 87 and up V-8 Mustang that I would buy a stock Prelude...SI or VTEC..outrunning except maybe a few loaded auto versions with weak gears. When I go to the strip, maybe I miss these cars.

I can also tell you that a buddy of mine talked me into going to "six cylinder and under night" at the local drag strip recently. We went to see what all the buzz was about with no intentions of running a car. But, we were in his 02 Regal GS daily driver and decided to run the thing just to see what the old boat would do.

When we got there it looked like a Honda dealership, and we beat up on Honda's..Preludes and all...ALL NIGHT LONG...in the eight mile. The only Honda to outrun either of us was a tweaked Integra GSR..TWEAKED. And, that guy only won by about a quarter car. Also, might I mention that the Regal is not IMO or his that fast.

Not one Prelude at the place even got close..... not one. Sure, WRX's, and other Japanese hi-po stuff were killing the Buick, but not a single Honda badged car....and only one tweaked Acura.

Sorry, maybe those really fast preludes are a West coast only option..............or imaginary.

[bigbob]

Second of all, a 99 and up GT will hammer a 94 or 95 GT....so you may even want to differentiate in more modern years. "My brothers so and so can beat a V-8 Mustang" is a statement about as broad, flat, uninformative and tired as Kansas.



i wasnt saying it can kill any stang on the road. i was saying if his{200- type sh}{catback greddy, aem cold air intake, shortshifter, rims/wheels, header not sure which one and new head gastget. could take v8 mustangs without many half of thos mods then a stock one will take a v6 stang no doubt.

Hey guys I just want to mention quick, I really need more backup in my struggle with the forum i am arguing in right now. I am fighting an Army of diehard Nissan Z's by myself while trying to convince them that out of the whole selection of Mustangs, the Stangs have more power and potential. A Z packs in only about 280 horses but thats nothing compared to a Cobra, Saleen, Rousche, or Steeda. Z does 0-60 in about 5.4 seconds. Lol not even close with the stangs. Any Mustang fan who wants to help me with this forum be my guest. Write a comment or two on your thoughts.
This is the forum, it might not be the latest page.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...4&goto=1355974

[F23A4Racer750IL]

the new V6 will be a different story.

[eillob]

Originally Posted by bigbob

Second of all, a 99 and up GT will hammer a 94 or 95 GT....so you may even want to differentiate in more modern years. "My brothers so and so can beat a V-8 Mustang" is a statement about as broad, flat, uninformative and tired as Kansas.



i wasnt saying it can kill any stang on the road. i was saying if his{200- type sh}{catback greddy, aem cold air intake, shortshifter, rims/wheels, header not sure which one and new head gastget. could take v8 mustangs without many half of thos mods then a stock one will take a v6 stang no doubt.

My only interest in this statement is the one about "a 99 and up GT will hammer a 94 or 95 GT. Would you care to elaborate a little? Inquiring minds want to know.

[JohnnyWash1]

eillob, it is no secret that stock for stock, the new GT runs away from the '94-95 GTs. With 260hp compared to the 215hp of the '94-'95s, the quarter mile goes by more than a second quicker. I recorded a 13.9 second pass on my 2000 GT, and I know others that have. However, on my 1994 GT the best I got was a 15.3. I know the '94 had more in her, but I never made it back to the track with that car.


Jon

[eillob]

Ok Johnny, True enough on paper the new GT may be faster stock as compared to the 94-95. But let me tell you I went and test drove a manual 99 mustang GT before I bought my 94 and was not at all impressed. The 99 GT in my opinion doesn't hold a candle to the 302 when it comes to torque. Top end the 4.6 takes it I wouldn't argue that. However we are still talking stock vehicles. There are tons more mods out there for 302's then there will ever be for the 4.6 And I got news for you it doesn't take a whole lot to do to a 302 to get it way past 260 horses. I should know I've done it and I've waived goodbye to many a 4.6 liters.

[JohnnyWash1]

Originally Posted by eillob

Ok Johnny, True enough on paper the new GT may be faster stock as compared to the 94-95. But let me tell you I went and test drove a manual 99 mustang GT before I bought my 94 and was not at all impressed. The 99 GT in my opinion doesn't hold a candle to the 302 when it comes to torque. Top end the 4.6 takes it I wouldn't argue that. However we are still talking stock vehicles. There are tons more mods out there for 302's then there will ever be for the 4.6 And I got news for you it doesn't take a whole lot to do to a 302 to get it way past 260 horses. I should know I've done it and I've waived goodbye to many a 4.6 liters.

I never mentioned paper numbers, I simply provided personal experience. The biggest difference between the 281 and 302 is the powerband, as you likely noticed. The 281 has a much more linear power curve, eliminating the peaky torque off idle that has become Mustang fame since the Fox bodied 302s. This has led many to falsely believe the 302s are quicker than the 281s. Not true since the '99 Mustang GT. As for peak torque, the 281ci makes 302 ft/lbs, while the 302ci makes only 285 ft/lbs. The bottom line is the little 281 is more advanced and shows it with a much broader and useable powerbands, compared to the 302. As for aftermarket, yes, there are more options for the 302. However, nobody can tell what the future holds, and I for one think the little 281 will soon be the Mustang engine of choice, powered by the aftermarket. Just make sure the next time you race a 4.6 you realize that it is still a Mustang and deserves your respect. Oh, and make sure you are racing a '99-up Mustang, not the anemic '96-'98 Mustang GTs.

Jon

[eillob]

The 281 may indeed be the engind of choice for some, but I will always be a loyal fan of the 302. And as far a respect for other mustangs go well, THAT is one thing at least we can agree on.

[SkylineUSA]

I too am a loyal of the 302, because I know them, but the new engine is better.

[Keddy_StangGT4.6]

"Oh, and make sure you are racing a '99-up Mustang, not the anemic '96-'98 Mustang GTs.

Jon"

i keep hearing bad talk about the 96 though 98 mustang gt is there something wrong with them or they are weak or what. i just brought a 96 a few months ago and i just keep hearing things like there a weak kneed etc. and isnt the new 99 to 03 4.6 basicly the smae engine with alittle bit of technigcal advances? so couldnt the 96 one be just as good as the new ones? did ford find some hiddin horse power in the 96- 98 gts engine or what? i am only 16 dont know awhole bunch about cars i am trying to learn everything i can bc i love cars import and demestic spelled that wrong sry guys. i give lots of cerdit out to imports "ricers" that make there car fast as hell. it takes alot of work and knowlage same with demsotic dont get me wrong but to get 2.2 liters or whatever to handle with 4.6 or more is not necessary a easy task. but there are cars out there that handle with the best of them and a new wrx 22,000 and a mustang gt what 25,00 or so they both came keep up with each other once the turbo is spooled up in the wrx of course. thanks for the info guys and girls if ur in here.
Ken

[Los]

The 96-97 Mustang GT has 215 hp, the 98 has 225, and its lacking power all around.