Twin Turbocharged Vulcan 3.0 :D

[SniperX13]

SWEET!!!!!!


look forward to more updates. hopefully they can come quickly now that ya got the major component needed

[SupaStealth TT]

Well, yesterday, i took a stop at the 'ol exhaust shop, i got a quote for my exhaust plans, he said 4-500 bux easy, so yeah, ya know what that means, i'm doin it myself , i don't have a pipe bender so that makes it a little difficult, but i have a torch and i have carefully bent exhaust before, so, lol.

Currently, i'm looking for the cheepest rising rate fuel pressure regulator. the cheapest i've found so far was like 235 or somethin, but i don't know about the quality, i think i'm goina go for the cartech one, thats 270 (more than the turbo ), but ah well i guess, as long as it keeps my engine from deto, hehe.

well, i'll be back for more updates, i'm sure i'm goina do lots of stuff this weekend.

[dan_taurus]

sorry to say supperstealth, if your upset about cost so far, my supperchip cost 415.00 after freight.well worth it though. my duell exaust cost 250.00 with mufflers and tips,2 1/4 inch stainles joined at the cat. shop around more buddy.

[SupaStealth TT]

well, i guess i cant get a fuel regulator (from what i understand), cause i have a non - return fuel system, so yeah, right now i'm workin' on gettin an air/fuel gauge, boost gauge and cobra injectors off of ebay of coarse, lol.

yeah, i know this isn't goina be cheep, ha, i said 750 bux for my spending limit, thats probably not goina happen, but i'm still shootin for under $1000, but thats only if you wouldn't calculate my time i'm putin' in.

[philterlecki]

[dan_taurus]

i was told you can use a turbo from a desiel, any truth to this?

[SupaStealth TT]

I suppose you could... but i don't know if i would, i would think that they would be tuned differently due to the rpm range difference, turbos that i've seen for gas cars reach boost at say 2500 to 3000 rpm, well, thats probably not goina be too much help on a deisel truck, i'm just kinda lookin' at it in that point of view.

Well, my Air/fuel gauge and boost gauge are in the mail, they'll be here on friday. I really wish i would've started this project at the beginning of summer, i think my time has run out for this. That, and the fuel management really hasn't gotten straightened out, i keep hearing that the taurus computer will just relearn itself and go back to the stock fuel curve if i used the Apexi S-AFC (if that would even work on my car?) so yeah, its been fun times. Oh, and i think if i were to get a custom chip from superchips it probably wouldn't get here in time, i leave for school sept 4th.

[SniperX13]

try a diablo chip. I think you can get them programmed to your specifics of what you want done.

[dan_taurus]

i got a supper chip programed with all my mods, it got here 11 hours after i ordered it.big differance to. they said i can return for reprograming to after future mods, thats pretty cool!
list of mods to date on 96 vulcan.
k+n filter kit
55mm maf
hight flow cat
2 1/4 inch duell exhaust
19 lbs injectors
fuell pump +lines from 88 cobra gt
accell ignition
accell 8mm wires
boch plat 4 plugs
boch 150amp alt
superchip calibrated for all above
big booming sterio
red light kit in + under car
american racing widow's 16 inch rims with firehawk gta's 225,50,16's
stainless steel fender flaires(bring out rims huge)
bra + blackouts
by doing air, fuell and spark i can inch away from a 98 SHO. i havn't had on dyno, but i figure 250 hp.1 1/4 inch lowering kit on back order.
next year i want a 2 1/4 inch cowl induction fibreglass hood and wing. then i really think im done (not likely)

[Patrick Norris]

Dude you are so misinformed it ain't funny! You need to do some research before touching that vulcan with a turbo. Try www.tauruscarclub.com for some facts instead of all the heresay I see here.

[Partsman]

I agree. With the questions you are asking it is apparant that you have done little if any research into this project. Now if you really want this to have a half a chance at actually working, you should learn about turbo systems and how they work. You will save yourself much time, money and frustration. I hate to be harsh here but you are totally clueless about this. If you can't figure out something as simple as how you would feed a single turbo off both cylinder banks then you need a lot more help than your going to get from this thread. At least try reading "Turbocharging" by Hugh MacInnes. It will point you in the right direction.

[mobiuslogic]

Not only are you not researching your stuff better Supa, but you're cutting corners on things that are important. Like exhaust. 400 isn't that much for an exhuast, and if you just go with a single 2.5" pipe and keep it to a single pipe, that'll save a lot of money.

Also, unless you have a deal through ford for lifetime headgasket replacement, did you think at all about how you are going to keep your cylinder heads from either blowing the head gasket or punching holes in your hood? And how about engine internals? You *WILL* need to get forged internals. Cast is no problem for natural aspiration, but unless you want to burp a piston or 2 and put in an extra oil drain plug compliments of a connecting rod snapping, you will have to switch to forged pistons, crankshaft, and connecting rods.

And finally, thanks to that nasty thing of detonation, you'll only be able to get 3 or 4 psi of boost. The 2 people that have Gen 3 SHO's that are turboed can only run 7 at the very most, and they have the 3.4L V8 SHO engine.

You need to do everything *ELSE* then put the turbo in. Here's my list: forged internals, chip, CAI, BIGGER BRAKES!!! (you still have to stop), look into bolting up the manual tranny off a contour or escort or tempo (your auto will burn, I gaurantee it). You need to make custom exhaust headers to bolt to the turbo, and an exhuast to handle the output. Certainly higher ratio valve lifters, and stronger valve springs so you don't float the valve and backfire your upper intake manifold off. Also, a full port and polish of the MAF, upper/lower intake, and exhaust manifold is mandatory with that amount of airflow.

First you have to prepare the engine for the turbo, then put the turbo on. Doing it the other way is pointless because your Vulcan will explode and you'll lose to granny in her 86 Buick. Also, check out Morana V6 Racing. They'll have all the internal engine stuff, but that's just the engine. At the cheapest you're looking at 1000 for engine internals, 1000, for brakes, chip, exhaust fabrication, and maybe bolt a manual on with that, and 1000 for a turbo, BOV, and just the turbo plumbing and intercooler.
Alright, I'm done flaming you, now go do you F***ing homework.

-mobiuslogic

Obviously I have. But turbo is a real possibility for me, I only have 27,500 miles, and being a flex fuel, ethanol has an octane of 105, which means a boost of 12psi. That'll b!tch slap any SHO back to gen 0. Peace.

[beyondloadedSE]

Originally Posted by mobiuslogic

Not only are you not researching your stuff better Supa, but you're cutting corners on things that are important. Like exhaust. 400 isn't that much for an exhuast, and if you just go with a single 2.5" pipe and keep it to a single pipe, that'll save a lot of money.

Also, unless you have a deal through ford for lifetime headgasket replacement, did you think at all about how you are going to keep your cylinder heads from either blowing the head gasket or punching holes in your hood? And how about engine internals? You *WILL* need to get forged internals. Cast is no problem for natural aspiration, but unless you want to burp a piston or 2 and put in an extra oil drain plug compliments of a connecting rod snapping, you will have to switch to forged pistons, crankshaft, and connecting rods.

And finally, thanks to that nasty thing of detonation, you'll only be able to get 3 or 4 psi of boost. The 2 people that have Gen 3 SHO's that are turboed can only run 7 at the very most, and they have the 3.4L V8 SHO engine.

You need to do everything *ELSE* then put the turbo in. Here's my list: forged internals, chip, CAI, BIGGER BRAKES!!! (you still have to stop), look into bolting up the manual tranny off a contour or escort or tempo (your auto will burn, I gaurantee it). You need to make custom exhaust headers to bolt to the turbo, and an exhuast to handle the output. Certainly higher ratio valve lifters, and stronger valve springs so you don't float the valve and backfire your upper intake manifold off. Also, a full port and polish of the MAF, upper/lower intake, and exhaust manifold is mandatory with that amount of airflow.

First you have to prepare the engine for the turbo, then put the turbo on. Doing it the other way is pointless because your Vulcan will explode and you'll lose to granny in her 86 Buick. Also, check out Morana V6 Racing. They'll have all the internal engine stuff, but that's just the engine. At the cheapest you're looking at 1000 for engine internals, 1000, for brakes, chip, exhaust fabrication, and maybe bolt a manual on with that, and 1000 for a turbo, BOV, and just the turbo plumbing and intercooler.
Alright, I'm done flaming you, now go do you F***ing homework.

-mobiuslogic

Obviously I have. But turbo is a real possibility for me, I only have 27,500 miles, and being a flex fuel, ethanol has an octane of 105, which means a boost of 12psi. That'll b!tch slap any SHO back to gen 0. Peace.

I wouldnt say forged rods/pistons/crankshaft are neccessary....especially not the crankshaft. Perhaps, just get the crankshaft balanced. Your looking at about $3500 for a custom machined aluminum crankshaft anyway! The stock rods and pistons should be fine if your only running minimal amounts of boost. I would be concerned more about detonation than actually throwing a rod. We have a guy on the contour forums, running a 99 3.0L duratec with 10.3:1 compression with 9 psi without any problems on stock internals. With 5.5psi he was putting out about 350 hp and its holding up wonderfully. Im sure the vulcan compression is around 9.5:1 or so. I think youll be alright with running about 8-10 psi without a problem, properly tuned of course.

Now, on to exhaust. $400 is cheap. If you wanna do it right, get some custom turbo manifolds and collector pipe made. Its not cheap, probably around $1000 or so, but its well worth it. I wouldnt cut any corners. And $240 for a turbo is dirt cheap! My T3/T4 is about $700! Things that are a neccessity though is a custom burned chip, wastegate (not a deltagate), bigger injectors, bov, some sort of intercooler if possible whether its a air/air or water/air, etc.

Also, the mtx-75 trans from the contour will not fit a vulcan engine.

For pics of my car and 3.0L turbo contour, go here .

[Dan_in_WA]

Originally Posted by dan_taurus

i was told you can use a turbo from a desiel, any truth to this?

I'd be REAL wary of doing this - a gas engine's exhaust is a helluva lot hotter than a diesel's. You might slag the turbine wheel.

If you find a prospective turbo from a diesel, contact it's manufacturer and see if they'd recommend it for use on a gas engine.

My info comes from www.eGarret.com

[Mediarocker543]

Originally Posted by SupaStealth TT

Well, i'm just gettin sick of my incredibly slow 99 Taurus, i have a cold air intake, Bosche Platinum plugs and a custom exhaust on it, and i just barely beat a newer ford minivan in a Drag race!!!! currently i have plans to twin turbo charge my car, although it might not be the smartest thing to do with such a low power engine it seams like the only thing i can do. the engine only has 69000 miles so it still has plenty of life.

Im still searching for two turbos, but since ford put a fricken oil filter right in the front middle of the engine it'll have to be kinda small to fit, i'm lookin' for turbos from a probe or eclipse or somethin' along that order, i'm goina custom fabricate the current manifolds to accept a turbo. the other issues i might run into are vacuum lines and routing pipes, but i'll figure it out

Didnt think someone thought like me... I got 96' taurus GL and have been wanting to put turbos on it too. Havent really found anyone else cept when i came accross this post today. Anyway good luck with it. and when you get it done, would you mind telling me what i need to get to do it right? maybe we could start up some Turbo Taurus club. XD

--Edit--
Didnt notice this was back in 03. damn. >> I just bumped a dead post.