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Old 04-18-2004, 08:42 PM   #46
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Re: Best sleeper cars

Hell, I've seen a Reliant with a v8 in it.
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Old 04-19-2004, 12:08 AM   #47
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Re: Best sleeper cars

My wife's car.......1990 Olds calais with a 3.3 195hp
It's pretty damned quick for such a plain looking car
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Old 06-07-2004, 05:44 PM   #48
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My 98 nissan Maxima 5-spd 0-60 6.6 secs STOCK. And mine isn't exactly stock. Intake, cat-back exhaust, stage 2 clutch, ultra light-weight flywheel, underdrive pulley and a reprogrammed Ecu and not a lot of cosmetic meds. I run low 14's high 13's in the 1/4.
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Old 06-07-2004, 05:54 PM   #49
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Maximas are not fast.
Can please tell me how you came to this conclusion, because i own one and I strongly disagree.
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Old 06-07-2004, 05:56 PM   #50
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Re: Best sleeper cars

Do you have any time slips to back that up.
98 Maxima's 0-60 time is 7.1 secs. stock. according to an issue of R&T back in '98.
With the mods you've done you might get down to 6.6 if you were really lucky.
But half a second off your 0-60 time? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just seems a little far fetched.
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:10 PM   #51
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Re: Best sleeper cars

i read an article in some rag a few months ago about sleepers and they had some good ones.

like a sonata with an eclispe gs-t engine in it. (noone will ever see that coming)

my personal fave is the standard z car with the small block swap. people expect it to be quick, but not that quick.

some other faves:
a miata with 5.0, and an old volvo sedan with a 383

though what would be the best sleeper in the world would be 12 second civic SI, rebaged to look like an EX, then with all the typical rice shit you see on civics, like the huge wing, the vinyl graphics, the ugly exhaust, the clear lights, fake type-r badges etc etc etc(you know the drill)

why? because you never expect rice to actually be fast. especially that fast.
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:11 PM   #52
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Re: Best sleeper cars

Actually you're talking about the aotomatic ones. The 5-spd does a 0-60 run in about 6.6 secs
http://edmunds.com/used/1998/nissan/...nav..6.Nissan*
As for the quater mile times, I have a G-teck Pro-meter installed which tells you the quater mile times, With my current mods, the best I've gotten is 14.1s.
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:18 PM   #53
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Nope, the test that was done that I read was with the five speed. Plus taking specs. from a Internet dealership that is hell bent on selling whatever they can sounds a little less convincing than a highly regarded automobile magazine.
Regardless, I don't really see how it would fall under the catagory of a sleeper.
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:41 PM   #54
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May be it was a manual but I've shown you 6.6 sec run to 60 is possible. The fact is that the engine powering the the max is regarded as the one of the best V6 the automotive industry has ever seen. It has tremendous potential and stock it has a ability to diappoint many so called sports cars. Don't think because it has four doors its slow. It falls under the sleeper category because noone would expect a four-door family sedan to beat their sports car, especially mine as it has minor cosmetic mods.
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Old 06-08-2004, 03:03 PM   #55
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Re: Best sleeper cars

...and what would these minor cosmetic mods be?
Not an ungodly large rear wing and a Fast and Furious body kit I hope.
Nobody will suspect a four-door family car?
What about the Altima 3.5SE, Subaru Forester 2.5XT, VW GTi VR6 or 1.8T, the Accord EX V6? Wouldn't those all be sleepers too?
They all run pretty close to the same times in stock form.
What more is it's quite easy to tell a car apart from being just another car to posers to people who actually know how to drive and are into motorsports.
Especially people with newer cars.
I'm sure it's a good car, 14.1 isn't bad for any car. I just fail to see how it fall undre the catagory of sleeper.
Maybe I'm just being picky, but it seems more of a car that falls under the catagory of another plain production car that has enough oomph from the engine that makes the owner wanna go out and get some Neuspeed sticker to put on their door and call it a racecar.
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Old 06-08-2004, 03:47 PM   #56
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Lighten up a bit dude, I am not someone who would put any type of stickers or huge spoilers on their car. As a matter of fact I don't even have a stock spoiler. The Cosmetic mods I was talking bout was the HID headlights, the dual exhaust, the lowered suspension and the the 17" rims. I don't have have any bodykits and nor do I have any stickers. I don't know why you would make such assumptions about me and my car but surely they don't make you look any smarter. The stock 5-spd are very quick but, read my post carefully, I never said taht the stock ones were a sleeper. I called MY Max a sleeper. 14.1 sec 1/4 mile (well into 13's w/ good tires) is into 350Z teritorry and I think you would agree that a 350Z is a fast car. For a 6 year old 4-door sedan that looks stock hanging or beating a 350Z is very impressive and therefore makes it a quite a good sleeper. You shouldn't go around and talk shit about you don't even know. You said that I could not drive... how the hell would you know? Have you ever seen me drive? I wouldn't think so. It is not very smart to make assumptions bout people you don't know.
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Old 06-08-2004, 07:17 PM   #57
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Calm down son, I'm not attacking you. I said I hope you weren't one of the fast and furious people, that's a good thing! I simply asked what the mods were.
Is your car fast? Yes. Is it a sleeper not really. That's what I'm saying.
Do you read the other posts?
Have you read what has been disscused as to what a sleeper is or should be like?
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:10 PM   #58
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Sleeper - a car that looks slow, but really is not.
Stock Maxima does not look fast.
My maxima looks stock and therefore does not look fast. My mods make the car fast.
So my car dosn't look fast but it is.
Now that I spelled everything out for ya, explain how this is not a sleeper son.
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It is a sleeper.
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