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Old 07-14-2005, 08:33 PM   #1
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Talking racing from the bench

I know bench racing is gay but i would just like another opnion on the matter. what do you guys think would win between a 91 vr4 with 150xxx miles on it basically stock and a 95 talon tsi awd with some mods pushing about 250hp and about the same torque?
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:56 PM   #2
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Re: racing from the bench

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I know bench racing is gay but i would just like another opnion on the matter. what do you guys think would win between a 91 vr4 with 150xxx miles on it basically stock and a 95 talon tsi awd with some mods pushing about 250hp and about the same torque?
what exactly are your mods, i see you have a bov, but i'm not sure what a UICP is.

Basically, if he is 100% stock and he's anywhere near a decent driver, being a 1st gen, he'll be running very low 14s in the 1/4.

If he just pops his hood and pulls the restrictive nipple out of the boost solenoid, he'll be up to 2nd gen boost levels and he'll be closer to a mid 13 second car if he can drive anywhere decent.

If he throws on a boost controller and goes up to 14 PSI and throws on an open intake and can make a good launch, then your looking at a high 12 second car.

As far as TSi's, i've seen them run anywhere between low 15s and 12s on the 14b turbo, depending on mods and driver.

Now, from what i have seen here, i've seen a TSi AWD run a guy that i know stage 3 WRX non-STi from a stop. The TSi had headwork, 14b turbo, other stuff that i have no idea cause i didnt see under the hood, but he was spraying i believe a 75 shot on top of it. A stage 3 WRX is CAI, MBC @ 18 PSI, UTEC ECU, turboback exhaust, up-pipe, and upgraded topmount intercooler. Anyways, my point being the WRX pulled a couple cars on the TSi. The same WRX raced my friends stealth RT/TT with just an intake and MBC from a roll, and the RT/TT pulled a few cars.

Anyways, just letting you know my experiences. Better make sure he's 100% stock, if he is, and your a better driver, i think you'd be able to take him, but if he just goes BPU for less than $100 in mods, be prepared.
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Re: racing from the bench

right now im running about 16-18psi and uicp is upper intercooler pipe
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right now im running about 16-18psi and uicp is upper intercooler pipe

with that, i'd probably say your a low 14 second car/ high 13's if your a really good driver

if he's 100% stock, you can beat him if you drive better than him.
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Re: racing from the bench

Id say the vr4. Even though u have the 14b the vr4 are quick as hell. It just depends on the driver.
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Re: racing from the bench

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I know bench racing is gay but i would just like another opnion on the matter. what do you guys think would win between a 91 vr4 with 150xxx miles on it basically stock and a 95 talon tsi awd with some mods pushing about 250hp and about the same torque?

bench racing is neither gay, straight, homosexual, transgender or bisexual, next time let's try and think of a bit more related adjective! As far as the race goes, race him and find out, because without mod lists, this question is still ultimately pointless even in theory.
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