2006 Eclipse

pluckyduck · 05-12-2005, 08:35 AM

I leased a 3G 2000 Eclipse GT for 3 years and it was a great little car. But it lacked the power and performance that I wanted so when my lease was up I got a 2003 Nissan 350Z. I love the Z car but overall I have to say that I preferred the quality of the Eclipse. My Z has just 20K miles on it and already has numberous interior rattles that the dealer refuses to fix. My Eclipse was rattle-free after 50K miles. With that in mind I am very interested in the new 06 Eclipse. But what is the deal with the engine?!?! Mitsu can make a 276 hp turbo 4 banger for the Evo but yet they are going to stick an oversized 3.8 liter V6 that only makes 263 hp into the new Eclipse. Can anyone explain this to me? Or has this question been beat to death already? My Z has 300 hp from a 3.5 V6. I prefer a non-turbo V6 to a turbo 4 so I like that part but I just can't believe that Mitsu is introducing this brand new MIVEC (whatever that is) V6 and it is only going to make 263 horses. I would love some feedback on this.

-Plucky

eclipsed4utoo · 05-12-2005, 10:10 AM

mitsubishi already has one performance car. it doesnt want to make its complete line made for performance. yes the V6 is overweight and probably underpowered. give me a list of V6 coupes under $30k with the same or more power...

350Z
G35
and these cars arent even in mitsu's class.

mitsu is just looking at their competetion in their class and building a slightly more powerful car.

i dont think they did a bad job. but they could have made something with a turbo....but i dont see that happening again

VAD0R · 05-12-2005, 10:17 AM

Yes, a NA FWD car that goes 0-60 in about 6 seconds flat and the 1/4 mile in 14.4-9 with a trap speed of 101mph is slow.

What people consider the ideal definition for fast in a power to price ratio never ceases to amaze me.

pluckyduck · 05-12-2005, 11:35 AM

sarcasm noted. But by todays standards for a sport coupe 0-60 in anything more than 6 seconds is slow. No reason they can't take tweak that same 3.8 V6 to 300 hp and put it to the rear wheels. 2+2 hatchback that goes 0-60 in 5.2 would be more like it. I would consider the G35 but I am still afraid it will develop the same interior noise that my Z has.

VAD0R · 05-12-2005, 10:36 PM

Actually I heard from one review the 2k6 Eclipse GT can go 0-60 as low as 5.4 seconds while an other says that it is more like 6.8, which means if balanced out to a median of 6.1, which is not too shabby. And 14 second 1/4 mile runs is spot on performance numbers for a car that price, think of the Cobalt SS and RX-8.

The fact is though no one has done an all out test of the 2006 Eclipse's performance so nobody really knows.

96 ls · 05-13-2005, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VAD0R

Yes, a NA FWD car that goes 0-60 in about 6 seconds flat and the 1/4 mile in 14.4-9 with a trap speed of 101mph is slow.

What people consider the ideal definition for fast in a power to price ratio never ceases to amaze me.

What is trap speed?

eclipsed4utoo · 05-14-2005, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 96 ls

What is trap speed?

the quarter mile speed

drewh4386 · 05-14-2005, 11:36 AM

I was watching espn and saw the new eclipse and saw the aspects then dropped a tear.........i love it.

cficare68 · 05-15-2005, 11:35 AM

[quote=eclipsed4utoo]mitsubishi already has one performance car. it doesnt want to make its complete line made for performance.

So what is wrong with 2 performance cars. Wouldn't be any difference from when they had the 3000 VR-4 and the GSX/GST Eclipses

drewh4386 · 05-15-2005, 05:25 PM

Dude, the vr-4 was a 320hp awd $45,000 machine. (more in range with a supra) The eclipse was a $26,000 210hp awd machine. Right now mitsu has 271-hp awd evo and 210 hp fwd eclipse. It wouldn't be the best choice range of cars to buy. The bar is raising (v6 - hondas, nissans, acuras, toyotas, hyundai's, and mazdas are making it a little harder for the eclipse to sell in this 4 gen of them. So I'm guessing thats why they tweaked the v6 to 265hp. So it out performs all cars in it class. The 90-99 models of the eclipses were supposed to be "import coupes". you know like the dom. grand am and the cavailer/sunfire. It out performed them as well. It wasn't supposed to be a "powerful" car like a vr-4, 300zx, NSX, rx-7, or supra. That is a different class. It was in with the mx-6, celica, civic, sentra, integra's and others.

pluckyduck · 05-15-2005, 06:23 PM

I don't care what you say. Mitsu needs a sports car that can compete with the 350Z. PERIOD. Mitsubishi makes good cars and it's just a shame that their best performer is a 4-door 4-banger grocery getter that only my Mom would drive. I'm not trying to offend all the rally guys out there, the Evo has it's place. I'm just saying that Mitsu needs a small 2-door sports car that can hang with the competition. I don't want a 4-door box-on-wheels. I want a high performance 2 seater or a 2+2 hatchback sports coupe.

drewh4386 · 05-15-2005, 06:41 PM

I know what you mean. We americans cried for the evo for so long. Now that we have it, we don't want it.

drewh4386 · 05-15-2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pluckyduck

But what is the deal with the engine?!?! Mitsu can make a 276 hp turbo 4 banger for the Evo but yet they are going to stick an oversized 3.8 liter V6 that only makes 263 hp into the new Eclipse. Can anyone explain this to me? Or has this question been beat to death already?

you know, i was thinking the samething. But I guess its todays industry standards. I think in the near future a turbo may make a come back if the v6 doenst do so well. ANd if not a turbo, a affordable great v6. Lets hope by then we still have gas to power our cars.

Sleepr awd · 05-15-2005, 07:53 PM

At least they don't make a 3.8l V6 with 190 hp like the 99-04 'stangs...now that would be embarrassing

cficare68 · 05-16-2005, 07:29 AM

Mitsu can make a 276 hp turbo 4 banger for the Evo but yet they are going to stick an oversized 3.8 liter V6 that only makes 263 hp into the new Eclipse. -Plucky[/quote]

I agree, with you. It is kinda odd that they can take a 2.0 litre 4 cyclinder and make it push out 276 hp and they out are pushing out 263 hp from the 3.8 litre V6. Just seems like there could be so much more potienal. However they did make a better attempt at 3.8 litre motors than both gm and ford both did. Hell gm put the supercharged 3.8 in the GTP Grand Prixs and some of the Monte Carlos and i believe they only have like 240 hp.

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