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06-26-2005, 05:50 PM | #61 | ||
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Green: not harmful to the environment Oh I'm sorry toyota has that special touch with all their plastics to make them environmentally friendly. And for gas they use recycled Farts....
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06-26-2005, 06:24 PM | #62 | |
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I'm not here to rip on GM Mr.Nuts I like GM as I do Ford and Chrysler but each has dissapointed me in one way or another. As for Honda and Toyota's bland styling they make nothing I want either, I don't want a civic or an Accord, as much as I don't want a Corolla, or Echo. It's just GM doesn't really make much that I want either I think the Vette is gorgeous, I think Chevy trucks are butt fu*kin' ugly though, though I like the GMC variant. As you pointed out The Aveo is the best selling sub-compact though I can't think of too many other sub-compacts sold in the US. I read in Motor Trend and Car Craft magazine that GM has cancelled the Camaro replacement but hey those publications could be wrong. I like the new Cadillac platforms I just think the designers at Cadillac are smoking crack! As you say as well hey lat-offs are just business it's nothing personal, so nothing personal to all those GM employees layed-off, as a metter of fact you can still buy a GM vehicle at the employee cost.
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06-26-2005, 06:34 PM | #63 | ||
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and that just shows how little you know about the subject. |
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06-26-2005, 08:25 PM | #64 | ||
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06-26-2005, 08:31 PM | #65 | |
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and if it means nothing to you, i'd just be wasting my time.
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06-26-2005, 08:37 PM | #66 | ||
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GM hasn't cancelled the Camaro, if anything they are looking even more seriously at it due to the demand for the Mustang. GM is definitely going to be releasing a Camaro like vehicle, it just may be called something different. Cadillac is different, it's cutting edge, and daring, not lexus boring. Perfect example, a bland car people aren't happy with, styling that stands out and enables you to indentify the car from many feet away is too daring and people complain about that. You just can't win. BTW, Mr. Nuts, I like that. I'd like to change my name, it just doesn't fit me anymore but I do like that.
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06-26-2005, 08:40 PM | #67 | ||
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No really enlighten me.
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06-26-2005, 10:06 PM | #68 | ||
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I don't have my head up Toyotas ass either, in fact I hate them, characterless but extremely tough and extremely reliable transport.
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06-27-2005, 12:27 AM | #69 | |
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OK first I have one question if you don't care about the look of the interiors how come you criticize GM about the same stuff you dismiss in other vehicles?
Second, no plastics are not the whole picture, but a good interior ads to the overall appeal of a vehicle. Nope they don't offer the diesel in the U.S. Anyway, if the converters are correct that I used to convert Kw to HP, and Nm to LB. FT. the diesel seems a little whimpy too.
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06-27-2005, 12:37 AM | #70 | |
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I'm talking about trucks not cars, finish is indeed important on most cars, however trucks are workhorses, they're already far too luxurious, what should matter with a Pickup is how much it can haul and how well it can get through swamps/uneven terrain etc. It's sad that there's such a big market for selling prettied up trucks that can't do anything properly to idiot lawyers who wished they were the construction worker guy from the Villiage people.
Turbo diesels are not powerful, they were never meant to be, the torque however is clearly significant enough for the Hilux to do everything a fullsize pick up can do, right up to the very extreme end of the scale where someone wants to tow 7 or 8000 lbs (Something less than 1% of pickup drivers do)
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06-27-2005, 12:59 AM | #71 | |
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Like I said if my converters are right it has less than 300 pound feet of torque, which is still pretty wimpy, Toyotas website says the turbo diesel can tow 5,000 pounds max, which isn't much.
And you gotta keep in mind it's not only the engine that enables you to tow that much but the suspension, the vehicle length, the transmission, and frame. A full size truck can tow more than 5,000 pounds.
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06-27-2005, 01:35 AM | #72 | ||
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I'd like to believe that 1st part about the Camaro type car I really would, only time will tell. When GM was asked about Mustang sales they said "We already have the Monte Carlo, in that niche and we think the Cobalt SS will help us as well in that segment! As for Cadillac, call it what you will cutting edge, stand out either way it's just plain ugly. |
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06-27-2005, 03:11 AM | #73 | ||
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I'd like to see a source for this Monte Carlo and Cobalt SS statement, I've never heard it. head over to GMinsidenews and look at the information on a Camaro like vehicle that is pretty much confirmed to be coming. Cadillac has come to be the number one selling Luxury brand in the U.S., with record sales too. People must like the look...
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It was either Popular Hot Rodding, or Car Craft. |
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06-27-2005, 09:48 AM | #75 | |
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wait a minute.... an american car selling well in america..... shock horror!
GM fan not caring about the environment... shock horror!! just out of interest, how old are you? |
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