Do i have a CHANCE? Civic Vs. Mustang GT - Page 4

Gohan Ryu · 02-03-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GScivic7

Has 160hp and an overwhelming 111 ft/lb torque.

Is underwhelming a word? It should be

b16=1.6 litres
b18=1.8 litres

knorwj · 02-03-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MexSiR

2000 Mustang GTs run 14.5 - 14.9 ( Mid to high fourteens)

An ITR runs high 14s. Now put the engine on a lighter car, with some mods and...you see how the story ends.

I've never seen a GT run slower than a 14.3 at the track. most run about a 14.1.

whtteg · 02-03-2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by knorwj

I've never seen a GT run slower than a 14.3 at the track. most run about a 14.1.

Everybody has to take into consideration that where you live has an effect on 1/4 mile times too. So there can be variances in times from location to location.

I have a slip somewhere here where I raced a 02 GT that ran a 14.6.

knorwj · 02-03-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by whtteg

Everybody has to take into consideration that where you live has an effect on 1/4 mile times too. So there can be variances in times from location to location.

I have a slip somewhere here where I raced a 02 GT that ran a 14.6.

I agree entirely. elevation plays a huge role in performance on N/A motors. and also different tracks take care of and prep their raceways differently, also different tracks are sometimes made of different materials and different quality materials. All these variables play a huge role in what a car will run..... but my point was that he was saying that a GT was a mid to high 14 second car where really it is a very low 14 second car, so if thats the case then the ITR which should run a high 14 would be running a mid to high 15.

the only thing at the track that will affect only one car is the driver, all other variables usually affect both vehicles.

dampachi · 02-03-2005, 02:24 PM

The B18C5 is the best honda motor if you're staying N/A...but I'd go B18C1 for boost. Not to mention for the cost of a B18C5 you could have a turbo'd B18C1. Or atleast that was true when I was looking into building a turbo'd B18C1 93 hatchback.

youngvr4 · 02-03-2005, 02:48 PM

how much does a civic hatch wiegh? as far as the starter of this thread, how much does his car wiegh?

S13wanabe · 02-03-2005, 02:50 PM

You don't save that much money. And really the best NA motor would be the B20/Vtec. But then we could start talking about race motors. This guy I know has a b16 that makes over 300whp NA. Of course the displacement is 2.4 liters and it's an all motor drag CRX. So in stock Honda b-series form the B18C5 would be the best NA and the B18C1 would be the best turbo. It all changes when you start doing other mods though.

S13wanabe · 02-03-2005, 02:59 PM

There were 4 different trims in the hatchback models of that year.
CX = 2094 lbs
DX = 2178 lbs
Si = 2326 lbs
VX = 2178 lbs
Keep in mind these are bone stock, off the showroom weight.

The b-series motor is about 80 lbs heavier than the d-series. That's an estimate though, don't quote me on that.

dampachi · 02-03-2005, 04:10 PM

My friends hatch, gutted, with him in it, and a full tank of gas weighs around 1800 pounds.

civicHBsi91 · 02-03-2005, 04:15 PM

which hatch is this? 1800 is a bit low unless theres ALOT of weight reduction going on, more than just interior.

dampachi · 02-03-2005, 05:50 PM

He had at the time just one racing seat..but I think he got another one because his girlfriend. And it's like...everything. Radio/AC/ALL the interior and he has lightweight parts. He has about 150hp in that..that's good for low 14s, right?

Jintec · 02-03-2005, 06:11 PM

okay just to fill you all in the model is a cx with not really any more weight added. just changed to type r seats but that shouldnt make much of a difference

GScivic7 · 02-03-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by S13wanabe

the B18C1 would be the best turbo.

That's really speculative though IMO. I'd much rather have a B18B boosted than a C1. Just for the pure fact that you would have gobs and gobs of torque with a boosted B18B motor. It's entirely preference. IMO torque makes a car more fun that HP so I would hands down go with a B18B.

I used to think that the C1 would be the best motor to boost. But that was when i had my 4th gen EX. Now that I've had a taste of some torque (an entire 175 ft/lb with my Sentra lol) I so much more want a torquey car than a more of a top end car. Considered going domestic a few times, but I can't picture a little Korean dude driving a Camaro or Mustang

dampachi · 02-03-2005, 07:49 PM

Anyone can drive a domestic!

240SXLude · 02-04-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dampachi

Anyone can drive a domestic!

I don't think that made very much sense

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