Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online!
Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! 
-
Latest | 0 Rplys
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Honda > Wheels/Tires/Suspension
Register FAQ Community Arcade Calendar
Wheels/Tires/Suspension All the handling help you need. No matter what Honda/Acura you drive.
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Email this Page Email this Page | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-06-2005, 08:14 AM   #1
1quikvic
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Geneva, New York
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Question Matching shocks for my springs..

I recently put in tein s-techs and I'll be honest: the ride is a little bumpy. Although it does handle turns a lot better. Will upgrading from my stock shocks fix the harsh ride? The spring rate in the front is like 210 and in back it's 140. I've heard you need a shock with a dampening rate that is stiffer than the spring rate of the springs or else you get the lousy ride.
1quikvic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2005, 04:47 PM   #2
snowman2005
AF Enthusiast
 
snowman2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: san antonio, Texas
Posts: 1,081
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to snowman2005
Re: Matching shocks for my springs..

i hear that kyb GR2 Struts + tein s-tech make a good combo. the kyb arent made for stiff springs but more for confort which is perfect for the stech which arent high performance springs
__________________
ive got manuals
92-95 civic 96-98 Civic
clicky here clicky here

WTB:92-95 EX/SI cluster w/tach
FS:*NEW* 92-95 civic coupe black floor mats(4). pm me for pics or offers
snowman2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2005, 04:50 PM   #3
alphalanos
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: clearwater, Florida
Posts: 2,654
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
yes shocks will make the ride much better. the reason being now with the lower ride height, the stock shocks are compressed to less than their intended travel, making them bottom out more easily. Aftermarket sport shocks are shorter to begin with and have a higher rate making the ride firm, but still dampened. Im in a similar situation and plan on getting KYB AGX shocks.
__________________
96 EJ6. Future home of boosted B18C1.
alphalanos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2005, 09:05 PM   #4
1quikvic
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Geneva, New York
Posts: 14
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
K, I'm glad to hear the KYB G2s would make a good combo because they're the ones I'm considering. The stechs arent really that stiff compared to other springs.
1quikvic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2005, 12:37 AM   #5
BullShifter
AF Moderator
 
BullShifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Homeless, Illinois
Posts: 6,216
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Re: Matching shocks for my springs..

KYB are stock length struts. They will function normally with a mild drop - 1.75"max. I use AGX's on my car with no complaints, adjustable is the way to go.

IMO GR2's aren't that great, Tokico HP is a better choice for 'cheaper' non-adjustables.
BullShifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2005, 03:08 PM   #6
projectgsr
AF Regular
 
projectgsr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Alhambra, California
Posts: 191
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ok, so now you guys have me thinking about changing my original plans to buy some OMNI Power complete coilover's for my GSR. Everybody tells me that they are a very good setup but the $700 or so that I would have to dish out is just kind of high. It would only cost about half that if I go with some Tein S-techs with some KYB struts. But do you guys think that would compare to the OMNI's? What would be the major difference's? Ride quality, overall quality, compatability, ect. Comment's, suggestion's? I do realize that if I get the Tein's spring's then they won't be adjustable.
__________________
JDM B18C, LSD tranny, Exedy flywheel/clutch, AEM intake, Greddy cat back, stainless header, Skunk2 manifold, Koyo radiator, Tokico Illumina full coilovers, black 17" Konig Hurry's, dc strut bars, custom cf hood, poly motor mounts, alum. battery bracket, b&m short shifter, Viper alarm, spoon chip, Tenzo R seats, Kenwood amp, Pioneer and MTX speakers w/cross over's, euro antenna, NGK wire's and plugs, Mobil 1 syn. and a whole lot of attitude.

9.4 sec 1/8 mile at Irwindale 4/20/06
projectgsr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2005, 12:45 AM   #7
BullShifter
AF Moderator
 
BullShifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Homeless, Illinois
Posts: 6,216
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Re: Matching shocks for my springs..

The only advantage to a true coilover setup is that the struts & springs are engineered to work together unlike Tein & KYB for instance. The downside is non-adjustable struts with omni and in my opinion I'd rather have adjustable struts than adjustable ride height.
BullShifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2005, 12:47 AM   #8
alphalanos
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: clearwater, Florida
Posts: 2,654
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
i agree. i wouldnt want to lose adjustable damping. As long as you can get the right amount of lowering, you wont really want to adjust the height anyway.
__________________
96 EJ6. Future home of boosted B18C1.
alphalanos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2005, 01:35 AM   #9
projectgsr
AF Regular
 
projectgsr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Alhambra, California
Posts: 191
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ok that sound's pretty good guy's because that will save me over $300. So do you think that Tein S-Tech's with KYB strut's on a 95' GSR 2 door with 17' Konig's will be alright? I don't want it too bumpy but I want it to look and handle good. Oh and does anybody know if you can get the G2's for an Integra? I couldn't find them. I could only find other model's.
__________________
JDM B18C, LSD tranny, Exedy flywheel/clutch, AEM intake, Greddy cat back, stainless header, Skunk2 manifold, Koyo radiator, Tokico Illumina full coilovers, black 17" Konig Hurry's, dc strut bars, custom cf hood, poly motor mounts, alum. battery bracket, b&m short shifter, Viper alarm, spoon chip, Tenzo R seats, Kenwood amp, Pioneer and MTX speakers w/cross over's, euro antenna, NGK wire's and plugs, Mobil 1 syn. and a whole lot of attitude.

9.4 sec 1/8 mile at Irwindale 4/20/06
projectgsr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2005, 10:13 AM   #10
alphalanos
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: clearwater, Florida
Posts: 2,654
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Try Tire Rack
__________________
96 EJ6. Future home of boosted B18C1.
alphalanos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2005, 12:08 AM   #11
BullShifter
AF Moderator
 
BullShifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Homeless, Illinois
Posts: 6,216
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Re: Matching shocks for my springs..

Due to your 17" wheels and thin sidewall tires you will feel the bumps no matter what. A good suspension setup will help but will not get rid of it all together. Tire sidewalls absord a lot more than people realize. Instead of GR2's you will be much happier with KYB AGX or Tokico Illuminas and if you want to spend the extra money Koni yellows.

Instead of the Tein's my first pref. & rec. is H&R springs.
BullShifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2005, 12:13 AM   #12
alphalanos
AF Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: clearwater, Florida
Posts: 2,654
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
To give you an idea I have H&R sport springs with KYB AGX, and if i have it set on 4 or higher....its a hard ass ride. but it handles(duh) the tradeoff is handling or comfort. You should def. get something adjustable. my setup only cost $650 total. I installled it myself in a total of maybe 10-15hrs (i take a long time) i did front springs first one day, then rear the next. then a couple weeks later front shocks. then rear. not very hard.
__________________
96 EJ6. Future home of boosted B18C1.
alphalanos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2005, 05:57 PM   #13
hondatuner4267
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Asheboro, North Carolina
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to hondatuner4267
Re: Matching shocks for my springs..

I am thinking of getting Tein S-Tech springs and Tokico Illuminas in the next month or 2. How do the Tokico Illuminas compare to the KYB AGX? And I have heard that if you lower your car at all you need to buy a camber kit. Is this true?
Thanks
hondatuner4267 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2005, 10:33 PM   #14
BullShifter
AF Moderator
 
BullShifter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Homeless, Illinois
Posts: 6,216
Thanks: 1
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Re: Re: Matching shocks for my springs..

Illuminas a better than AGX's because they feature more adjustablity.

Camber kits are required when lowering more than 1.75" not so much a big deal with less than 1.75" of lowering. The only way to have you car in factory alignment specs after lowering is to install camber kits because there is no factory camber adjustment.

My civic is lowered approx. 1.5" and with 30K miles on the tires there is hardly any inner edge tire wear.
BullShifter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2005, 03:33 PM   #15
beatencar
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Matching shocks for my springs..

if you lower a car, the ride will almost always be bumpy. i have not heard of anyone that has a ride like a stock car when it is lowered. it's not that bad though, i got used to it and i think the looks and handling are a good tradeoff for the ride.
beatencar is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Honda > Wheels/Tires/Suspension


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:39 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts