Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online!
Automotive Forums .com - the leading automotive community online! 
-
Latest | 0 Rplys
Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Chevrolet > Astro > M Bodies
Register FAQ Community Arcade Calendar
Reply Show Printable Version Show Printable Version | Email this Page Email this Page | Subscription Subscribe to this Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-15-2010, 05:06 PM   #1
rob cole
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: eudora, Kansas
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Shuddering on the hiway

97 astro 83,000 miles always a good runner but lately seems to shudder or mis in short bursts when driving on the hiway . I have searched simalar posts could be anything from wires to fuel pump. does it the worst when cruse is on. did a fuel filter first and dont want to start just throwing parts at this thing also when you punch it it goes great. sometimes in the morning hard to keep running for first min or so.
any advice as to where to look first
Thanks
rob cole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 05:52 PM   #2
old_master
Advisor/Moderator
 
old_master's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Belleville, Michigan
Posts: 5,184
Thanks: 6
Thanked 103 Times in 95 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

How many miles since the last tune up? At 83,000 miles it's due. AC Delco distributor cap, rotor and spark plugs, and a set of either Autolite or AC Delco spark plug wires. Put a dab of silicone dielectric on each terminal of the cap, inside and out. Don't waste your time or money with aftermarket tune up parts, these engines are very fussy.

Typically the fuel pumps are good for 100,000 miles but... key on, engine off, fuel pump running: Pressure must be 60psi to 66psi and must remain above 55psi for 3 to 5 minutes after the pump shuts off.
__________________
You have to know how it works,
to figure out why it doesn't.
old_master is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 09:50 AM   #3
Truck
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 329
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

Any good ideas on how to replace those plugs? Mine is AWD...and after 45 minutes, I'm thinking, "SOL!" I have seen 2, but I've felt around down there and found at least 5! (I know, I need all 6) The Haynes manual says 'if necessary, remove the wheels/splash shields' It is 'necessary' isn't it?
Truck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 03:21 PM   #4
old_master
Advisor/Moderator
 
old_master's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Belleville, Michigan
Posts: 5,184
Thanks: 6
Thanked 103 Times in 95 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

Jack up the front end by the frame so the wheels hang, no need to remove the wheels. You can get right at most of them through the wheel opening. If there are any that you can't get at, you can get at them from under the vehicle or by removing the engine cover. Make sure you use AC Delco parts, (see post #2).
__________________
You have to know how it works,
to figure out why it doesn't.
old_master is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 07:31 PM   #5
Truck
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 329
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

Thanks again for saving the bacon. You ARE the Master, old or not!

Got ACD's #12's to put back in...it has ACD #88's in it. My mechanic friend (An actual schooled, teaching, saleable mechanic) had quite a time even imagining how to get at them. (The ones we can see don't leave much room to maneuver, so we'll see how the jacking does.)

The owner's manual says the original plugs are good for 100K miles...how can you tell if the replacements are?
Truck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 07:57 PM   #6
old_master
Advisor/Moderator
 
old_master's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Belleville, Michigan
Posts: 5,184
Thanks: 6
Thanked 103 Times in 95 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

Truck, 1997 Astro "W" engine uses AC Delco 41-993 plugs, and they will last 100,000 miles. Don't "experiment" with anything else. Exchange your #12's for them.
__________________
You have to know how it works,
to figure out why it doesn't.
old_master is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2010, 08:44 PM   #7
Truck
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 329
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

Actually, it's an "L"...sorry for my lack of specifitivity.
Truck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2010, 05:03 AM   #8
boatbuster
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Barrie
Posts: 141
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

The AC thing is true, don't use anything else on these engines, I tried NGK and had to replace them a few days later with AC. Ran like a bag of nails with the NGK plugs and I am usually a loyal NGK user.
boatbuster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2010, 04:18 PM   #9
Truck
AF Regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 329
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

Well, I saved my experiementing with NGK's for the 'yotas. Got a set of 41-993's, and life is good.

Actually, I misread my VIN, it's a "W" engine code, but something in it is an "L"!

Thanks guys!
Truck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2010, 05:03 PM   #10
old_master
Advisor/Moderator
 
old_master's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Belleville, Michigan
Posts: 5,184
Thanks: 6
Thanked 103 Times in 95 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

Glad you got her going, thanks for posting back. These things are real fussy when it comes to ignition parts, it's best to stay away from aftermarket stuff.

1997 Chevrolet Astro and GMC Safari:

The 5th character of the VIN tells the "Chassis" type: "L" is AWD. "M" is rear wheel drive.

The 8th character of the VIN tells what engine you have: "W" is 4.3L V6 with CSFI fuel system.
__________________
You have to know how it works,
to figure out why it doesn't.
old_master is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2010, 08:05 AM   #11
rob cole
AF Newbie
Thread starter
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: eudora, Kansas
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

Quote:
Originally Posted by rob cole View Post
97 astro 83,000 miles always a good runner but lately seems to shudder or mis in short bursts when driving on the hiway . I have searched simalar posts could be anything from wires to fuel pump. does it the worst when cruse is on. did a fuel filter first and dont want to start just throwing parts at this thing also when you punch it it goes great. sometimes in the morning hard to keep running for first min or so.
any advice as to where to look first
Thanks


Replaced the battery and problem gone (guess sometimes you never know)
rob cole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2011, 07:51 PM   #12
brownridge12
AF Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: falsom
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Re: Shuddering on the hiway

Hey that is nice to know that the problem is gone. and i hope now it is perfectly working fine. if any problem do let us know.
__________________
Cheap Audi Parts
brownridge12 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

POST REPLY TO THIS THREAD

Go Back   Automotive Forums .com Car Chat > Chevrolet > Astro > M Bodies


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:02 AM.

Community Participation Guidelines | How to use your User Control Panel

Powered by: vBulletin | Copyright Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
 
 
no new posts