300ZX Twin Turbo vs. Supra Twin Turbo

[Automobile Maniac]

300ZX Twin Turbo vs. Supra Twin Turbo

Why would someone pick the Supra Twin Turbo over the 300ZX Twin Turbo?

Let's analyze this-

(Specs for 1995 Twin Turbo models)

300ZX-----Supra

Weight~ 3518----- 3445
HP~ 300----- 320
Torque~ 283----- 315
Engine~ DOHC V6----- DOHC Inline 6
Transmission~ 5 Speed manual----- 6 speed manual
City/Hwy MPG~ 18/24----- 17/23
Wheels~ 16"----- 17"
Doors/Seats~ 2/2----- 2/4
0-60 mph~ 5.2----- 4.9 (from Motor Trend 7/93)
Quarter Mile~ 13.8----- 13.4 (from Motor Trend 7/93)
Both assembled in Japan

Okay, Okay, I'll admit that the Supra does win on every spec except MPG (but who cares about MPG!) but not by much!.
Both cars in stock form are just about equal in speed, good looks, reliabilty and tuning potential (I have seen modified examples of each built over 700HP)
Also the Z has that goofy All Wheel Steering but both are still bad ass rear wheel drive demons that to this day kick every other new car's ass!
So why is there such an overwhelming cult status dedicated to the Supra and not the Z? Most Twin Turbo Z's even cost $15,000.00 less than a Supra Twin Turbo of the same year.

[projectsupramk3]

First this is the Supra section, so most all here should think the Supra is the best with no question, it looks better, it performs better, the end. If you want a non-biased opinion because you and so many others like bench racing there is a section specificly for that...
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...play.php?f=666
You list tuning potential and you only say 700hp+, there have been many accounts over that number and some hitting four digits. Also you might want to fix that sig, the replacement for displacement is technology, when it boils down to it though there is no replacement because the larger engine with the same technology will win out everytime.

[Coyote_Star]

Also the 300Zx has a reputation of having transmission problems and they are supposedly very hard to fix and have complex engines

[7M > V8]

Yea, I'm sure when one goes to modify their car one will find the supra has much more availability, as far as back order, discon items, ect..

[darknite23]

common how could you really compare a supra tt to a 300zx tt the supra is way better looking performs alot better(btw 0-60=4.6 and 1/4 mile times=13.1secs) i have a jza80 and i have driven a 300zx. ive seen evos with bpu's takeout "highleytunned" 300zx

[EvoCrazy]

The Supra is NICE. And it has crazy HP potential.

[2of9]

Is there a racing clip(s) of this race...it would be a pretty cool race to watch...

[Valakin]

Uhh??

wasn't the Fairlady Z Twin Tubro also available in a 6speed... infact was the TT only a 6speed and the turbo the 5?

Further more heres another thing that kinda puts a kink in your arguement... the FLZ ended as the MKIV started. Besides that I would still think that the Jza70 TT would kill it.

However this is one thing I will say in praise to the Z's... in the 80's the inside of the car was bad ass... something the supra didn't really get untill the MKIV. So in that race I think they won.

[Amish_kid]

uhh, 300z's are horrid to modify, no room under the hood to do any work. Doesn't have as much potential as the 2jz, to tell you the truth I'd rather drive a mk3 than a 300z any day of the week even though z's look nice and perform decent just too hard to work on.

[Z32TT_maniac]

darknite23! get your fact straight..supra TT 0-60 4.9 sec..300ZX TT 2 seater 0-60 5 sec..so they are equal in speed...even tho im a 300ZX TT maniac but i gotta agree that the Supra have more potential in modification..the stock internals on the Zed can handle 500HP..but the stock internal and gear box of the supra can handle 700HP..both cars are equal in stock speed...but supra internals and gear box are stronger

[MR2Driver]

Supra looks better, handles better, more tuning potential, wins stock for stock, nicer interior, status symbol name, and has Toyota reliability.

The Z was never the Supra's rival, now the R32 GT-R WAS.

[rZ12]

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Supras are the shiznit! (but I'm buying a 300ZX because I'm poor and don't really want a 'fake' Supra (non-turbo) or an old smelly Supra (mk3).. )
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[Aicd]

And the "knowing absolutely nothing about racing" award goes to Maniac

[rZ12]

Originally Posted by Aicd

And the "knowing absolutely nothing about racing" award goes to Maniac

Amen

[TcmaBoy]

There is somthing to be said for the Z. Heritage and refinement. Zs have been around since the early 70s. They have always been innovative. The 280z was one of the first to have EFI. Then the early 80s 280ZX was one of the first to be factory turbo charged. They were leaders in interior appointments, and still are. I own a 79 280. It has EFI, a 5spd manual, A/C, one touch power windows, power mirrors, cruise controll (on a manual tranny no less), and an advanced stereo (for its day) with individual EQ adjustments. It has an on borard monitoring system that lets me know when any of the fluids are low, if the charging system is going bad. It even tells me if I have a head light or tail light out. These are things that you can't get on some cars today, let alone in 1979. The Supra MK IV is well known. The other models are rather obscure to non Supra fans, but the entire Z line is well known. I love my MK III, but I would probably shell out for a new 350Z before I bought a MK IV Supra. It just can't compare to the level of refinement of the Z. Thats why somone would chose the 300ZX TT.