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02-11-2005, 05:26 AM | #1 | |
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Plug Gap
I received the spark plug gap over the phone from my local Toyota dealership. The guy was very unsure of himself when he gave me the information. I can't seem to find the correct gap. I know that information is usually on the inside of the hood, but my hood was replaced due to an accident. I have a 2003 Tacoma 2.4L automatic. Thanks for the help!
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02-11-2005, 08:08 AM | #2 | |
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Re: Plug Gap
Mike, According to the 2004 shop manual the gap is .043". Torque is 14lb. ft. The 2004 manual is supposed to be good for 2002-2003 models. My under hood label gives valve clearances but no plug gaps.
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02-11-2005, 09:18 AM | #3 | |
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Go to a Toyota parts counter with your VIN and order a set of stickers for your hood. Someday, someone will need them. The body shop who replaced the hood should have done that.
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02-11-2005, 11:12 AM | #4 | ||
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Thanks Clifton. According to the dealership the gap is .048" - .052". I set the gap to .050" for all 4 plugs. The truck runs and idles great, but I seem to be using alot of gas. I just replaced them 4 days ago. The plugs that I removed were the original since new. I installed the exact same plug. The original plugs were gapped anywhere between .045" - .051" from the factory (that's strange) . I am new to toyotas but not new to routine maintenance. A gap of .048"-.052" seems alot to me. Mike |
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any input on the gap? Mike |
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02-11-2005, 12:56 PM | #6 | |
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I'll look in my shop manual when I get a chance. Probably the same as Flash, but I'll have a look anyway.
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02-11-2005, 02:30 PM | #7 | |
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Re: Plug Gap
Mike, This reference also recommends .043" for non platinum plugs. That gap has been listed for all Japanese vehicles I have owned during the past 15 years.
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02-11-2005, 04:37 PM | #8 | ||
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02-11-2005, 11:01 PM | #9 | |
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I used the Toyota Denso plugs. I had no idea that the plugs were pregapped. As I said before the gaps of the plugs that I removed were anywhere from .043 to .051. and the dealership told me the gap limits were .048 to .052.
How come the truck idles and runs so well with a .050 gap? I am using more gas.....is that because of the gap? Regap the installed plugs to .043 or just replace them? Thanks Guys! Mike |
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02-12-2005, 07:17 AM | #10 | ||
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(e) Adjust the electrod gap. Carefully bend the outer electrode to obtain the correct electrode gap. Correct electrode gap: 0.8 mm (0.031 in.) (f) Using a 16 mm plug wrench, reinstall the 4 spark plug. Torque: 20 N·m (200 kgf·cm, 14 ft·lbf) (g) Reinstall the ignition coil. The above is info I got directly out of the 2003 toyota factory manual The 2RZ-FE motor spark plug gap is .031 Can someone please verify this! Thanks Mike |
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02-12-2005, 08:23 AM | #11 | |
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Anytime you need spark plug gap information it can be found in the NGK plug finder. The 2003 Tacoma comes up as .044". I know Toyota usually has Denso but different brand plugs normally recommend very close or the same as factory specified gaps.
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/apps/ca...60000&country= I owned several Toyota's from 1970 to 1990, I don't remember any of them being overly fussy about ignition parts. I have used NGK, Autolite, Champion and Denso in them and never had a spark plug or ignition problem. Mike; Your engine runs ok with the bigger gap because the gap isn't out of the operating limits of the ignition system. If the engine runs ok and doesn't skip or miss under any operating condition the increased fuel consumption is probably caused by something other than the spark plugs. Most vehicles will consume more fuel during the winter due to longer warm up time from cold. Short runs will also hurt more in winter than during warmer seasons. All plugs do come from the factory pre-gapped. The gap should be ok for most applications, but all the technical advice I have read suggests that plug gaps should be checked prior to installing. Over time the plug gaps will erode and the gap increases in the process. The gap will usually increase several thou. over a period of 30k miles. Will that be too much? I'm not sure but I suspect you will not notice any difference. I wouldn't buy new plugs but I would probably re-gap the new plugs to .042"-044". But I don't know how much work is involved, I haven't done mine yet with only 9k miles. If it's a lot of work I would leave them alone and perhaps change them a little early the next time. Clifton |
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02-12-2005, 09:13 AM | #12 | |
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Mike; Well, it's obvious I cannot verify that information. Sorry about my last post. My information came from a 2004 owners manual and the 2004 Toyota shop manual. NGK shows a change from .032" to .044" for 2003 model years but that is an NGK reference not Toyota.
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Thanks for the info. I am really confused now because of the wide range in gap tolerances that I am receiving. I find it hard to believe that a gap difference of 0.20 would not have some kind of negative effect on the performance of any vehicle. The factory manual shows 0.31 gap. The dealership says 0.48 to 0.52. The gap of the original plugs were way above 0.31. As for the gas mileage. I am losing about 6mpg. It started to go down right after I changed the plugs. I have to beleive that the gap is causing the excessive fuel consumption. I still can't beleive that the truck runs and idle so well. I don't know of any vehicle that has an ignition system that will allow a range of 0.31 to 0.52 gap in the plugs and still run smoothly. I changed the plugs just because. My owners manual calls for the plugs to be replaced at around 32000 miles. I currently have 45000 miles on my tacoma. I DID NOT change the plugs because the truck was running poorly. Mike |
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This I just got off the DENSO website. I realize it's not the exact same plug that is stock in the Tacoma, but it is a DENSO substitute for the Tacoma. Look at the gap!!!!!!
Make: TOYOTA Model: TACOMA Sub Model: Displacement: 2.4 Engine Type: L4 Plug Number: IK16 (Click to Purchase) Gap: 0.032 Ignition Wire*: D.I. Mike |
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Ok, Ill help you out because its what i do for a living. First things first electrode gap is only half of your problem, diferent spark plugs have diferent heat ranges and this is probably where your looseing your MPG.
Yes toyota factory plugs are pre-gaped, I dont know what the gapping is because I just grab them and put them in the car. Toyotas are very picky about ignition parts, and ive seen non-stock parts create some very strange probems. Best way for you to fix your problem and know its done right is to go to the dealership parts counter, look for a person that looks like they know what they are doing (not always male) and get plugs for your exact car. There are 3 types of plugs used, and a numer of heat ranges betwean them, not for certain on how many: Resister type : about $2 (replace every 30k) Platnum type : about $4 (replace every 60K) Irridium type : about $8 (replace every 90K) Also I just remember that some toyota motors require duel electrode plugs, there should be a sticker on the motor somewhere that states this. This sticker will also state what type of plug to use. |
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