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09-04-2004, 04:19 PM | #1 | |
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Acura NSX vs Ferrari 360 Modena
how does the NSX compare to the 360 around a track? i've heard accounts of NSX's beating 360s easily on a track, but the fact that its acceleration is quite a bit less than the ferrari and the fact that the 360's handling is lauded greatly in many other tests makes it hard for me to believe that the NSX is an adequate competitor to the 360. i'll admit that a good driver in an NSX can probably take out a mediocre driver in a 360, but with equal drivers and track conditions, i can't see the NSX winning.
the NSX type r however is a different story......i'm pretty sure the type-r could take out a 360, but i don't know exactly by how much......does the type-r barely edge out the 360 or does it demolish it?.....also, how does it compare to a 360CS? |
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09-04-2004, 04:37 PM | #2 | |
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Well lets see
top gear had the Stradale at 1:22 the Murcielago at 1:29 and on best motoring the Murci beat a NSX-R draw your own conclusions. I have all the videos to prove it FYI.
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09-04-2004, 09:28 PM | #3 | |
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on bestmotoring a NSX-R annilated the standard F360 modena. however a standard modena can take a NSX S Zero. but not by much. the modena is faster on the straight, and they both handled similar. so the added power for the ferrari will allow it to edge out a non R NSX. however the R series for the NSX is lighter, makes more power and the chassis is tweaked to perfection. so the standard modena gets blown away. however the stradale can take out the NSX-R once again because of power. i would suspect both of them to handle similar.
edit: and neutrino you can't judge the times from top gear to the races at best motoring. cause even the standard EVO 8 GSR posted a faster lap time then the Lambo. and we all know that the NSX-R will destroy the EVO. also note that the track they raced the NSX R and hte lambo in is on Sugo and also on Motegi ring. those 2 race tracks have alot of long straights. where as the test track for top gear hardly has any straights. on a complex track like on top gear i'm 100% positive the NSX R will lap much better then the Lambo esp since the BMW M3 CSL was faster then the lambo and on the recent bestmotoring vid that i saw, the CSL was alot slower then the NSX-R however the CSL was still faster then the porsche 911 turbo.
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09-04-2004, 09:32 PM | #4 | |
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Re: Acura NSX vs Ferrari 360 Modena
360 CS vs. NSX Type R...I'd go w/ the Ferrari.
360 Modena vs. NSX...I'd still go w/ the Ferrari. |
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09-04-2004, 09:38 PM | #5 | |
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I dont see how a NSX could beat a Ferrari either. Even it handled like no other the power alone would make it hard to take a Ferrari. I mean Ferrari's arent boats by any means, so to be as underpowered as the NSX is it would have to handle REALLY REALLY well to take a Ferrari. Also I thought the NSX type R had the same horsepower as a standard NSX, just different gearing, suspension, and it is lightened a substantial amount.
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09-04-2004, 09:43 PM | #6 | |
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well of course if you want to believe in the japanese claimed hp rating then go ahead. there are tons of cars that makes well over 280hp stock. a GTR makes around 350hp stock, a supra makes 320, a 300ZX makes 300, a 350Z makes 287, the j spec STi makes 300. need i go on?
also to prove the hp, a nsx-r with the 3.2 liter can run a 12.6 on a good day. it runs a 12.7, on 12.8 on average. which is around where a standard modena runs.
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09-05-2004, 04:28 AM | #7 | |
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Re: Acura NSX vs Ferrari 360 Modena
Well, the NSX only weighs about 3200 lbs., so it wouldn't need -too- much power to pop off a 12.8. I bet it could do it with 280 (taking into account the gearing, aerodynamics, and potential for traction).
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09-05-2004, 10:30 AM | #8 | |
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a standard nsx weights 3200. a type S zero weights even less. and the R should weigh in at just under 3000 lbs. however the standard u.s. spec NSX makes 290. don't you think the R would have some engine tweaks over the standard NSX? i mean the japanese have been making waaay more powerful versions of our cars. example: integra type R for both versions, the 240's. just becasue the limit says 280. do you honestly think they all can tune their cars to make exactly 280 hp? i doubt it. and judgin from their aceleration speed and weight. i would say 300hp is about right. remember 3000lb is not light. the RX-7 R2 weights even less at 2800lbs and makes a full 280hp and runs a mid to low 13. and hte lightess RZ weights under 2800lbs and can run a low 13 at best. so do you think the NSX with 200 more lbs and the same hp to run a half a second faster? sorry aero dynamics and gearing would matter by that much esp since how the NSX has soo much more top end pull. the only way i can think of it is by the hole shot becusae of the MR setup vs. FR. but that still doesn't account for the second half of the race. also making 300hp is not far fetched. the GT-R out acelerates the u.s spec NSX and the NSX is rated at 290hp and weights 3200 lbs and the GT-R is rated at 280 and weights 3500lbs. hmmmmmmm, and the j spec NSX always out acelerates the GT-R.
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09-05-2004, 12:36 PM | #9 | |
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Re: Acura NSX vs Ferrari 360 Modena
I didn't say that the car only had 280 hp, I'm sure it has more. I said it could run a 12.8 with only 280 hp.
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09-05-2004, 01:26 PM | #10 | |
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Re: Acura NSX vs Ferrari 360 Modena
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09-05-2004, 03:33 PM | #12 | |
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Re: Acura NSX vs Ferrari 360 Modena
Yeah, but the Ferrari handles better...mainly because it's a few hundred pounds lighter...
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09-05-2004, 04:02 PM | #13 | |
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i just got the weight of all the cars.
NSX-R weights 2794lb wow Ferrari F360 modena weights 3058 lbs. lighter then i though. Ferrari Stradale weights 2816 lbs. standard NSX weights 2948 lbs. hmmm so i guess i over shot the weight of the NSX by a few hundred lbs. lolz anyways the NSX-R is king of light weight. weighing less then even the Ferrari Stradale. also i don't think either of htem handles alot better then both NSX's. the standard versions of both are compariable same as the hardcore versions in handling.
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09-05-2004, 06:52 PM | #14 | |
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Re: Acura NSX vs Ferrari 360 Modena
I'm pretty sure a standard NSX weighs more than 2900 lbs...it's closer to 3100...
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09-05-2004, 07:24 PM | #15 | |
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yeah but thats fully loaded with all the options. i'm sure a ferrari would weight more by the same amount when you start adding stuff to it.
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