nsx and mid engine question

[shaun1982]

hey, i love the nsx, best car in the market. wish i can afford it.

but my friend who has a 95 subaru wrx tuned sti. hates the nsx and most mid engine cars like mr2 cause they got crap handling and corning. i keep telling him that his wrong, and that most car clips i see, especially in best motoring, the nsx is not as good in stright line spped, compared too the nissan skyline gtr, but when in cornering, the nsx is the sickest.

am i right. and he said that even in normal driving in the road, u can spin out and crap like that. is that true.

and what can i tell him about the nsx against teh wrx and skyline. cause hes gonna sell his wrx for a r32 gtr.

[MR2Driver]

You can spin out pretty much any car if you dont know what you're doing. Snap oversteer is a problem most MR cars have, you wouldnt say Ferrari and Lambo handle poorly would ya?

The problem is, the car has bad handling w/ a bad driver. To the untrained driver, its not as easy to handle, you have to learn the car. Thats why some people think MR's cant handle, because they cant handle them. I wouldnt ever call oversteer a "problem."

You most likely will never spin out a car driving the speed limit in good weather like a normal driver. Its under heavy cornering or in the rain where if you suddenly brake or lift throttle the car will snap. A trained driver has to learn not to lift off throttle when going too fast...

[SR20dett60]

Yea, Lachean is right u can spin out in any car, there is no car that can never spin out, if u are going to fast into a turn u can spin out...even if ur in the best handling car ever

[MexSiR]

Best handling cars are Mid engined cars because the weight distribution is always close to perfect 50/50. Since the engine is located in the middle the center of gravity is very close to the middle.

Porsches have the engine on the back and they do Oversteer a Lot, but they are one of the best handling cars in the world.

[yellownsx]

I have a 98 nsx, It is my Joy, it is my toy and it is the next best thing in life...after my wife. It is the only car I have ever had that still excites me a year and a half after I bought it getting into it. As far as handling: it is one of the few automobiles that a NOVICE could take around a corner at 50 mph.......someone with some skill with the car can do it at 70. Don't believe me? Ask anyone at nsxprime.com most of those people have the cars!

[c32b1 NSX]

ever watch est motoring videos? sti can never keep up with an nsx.

[ghetto7o2azn]

if mr's had bad handling why would they make f1 cars mr? and why would ferrari, and lamborghini, bugatti etc. make their cars mr if it handled badly? something to think about

[weaponCIVIC]

your friend is so wrong its not even funny. mid enigne cars are among the best handling in the world.

and an nsx running with the skyline? no contest the nsx is far superior, the first car to come production with an aluminum body. and its far more reliable.

[jcsaleen]

Mid engine bad handling lol cough cough porsche. Excuse me it jus popd out

[drunken monkey]

...hmm,
i don't think you can use formula 1 cars as an example for the better handling quality of mid engined cars.
for a start, they are far too removed from being anything like a road car for any real comparison to be made.
also, weight distribution is just that, distribution.
you can set up a car to be 50/50 with the engine in the front as well.
it's just that it's easier to judge the weight, and handle the 'swing' when its behind you.
so while it isn't best per se, it is just more suitable for some purposes.

as for the 911.
please remember that it's only quite recently that the 911 has gotten over it's pendulous rear end problems.
and when that rear goes, it still takes a hell of a lot to catch it.

[jcsaleen]

Not the gt2!! hehe

Btw what about the s7 or a mclaren. mid engine correct. actaully I take that back a porsche is rear engine supposedly.

[drunken monkey]

so what about the ferrari 575? 612? 365 gt/4?
aston martin DB9? vanquish?
SL55 AMG? SLR?
TVRs?
Bentlys?
BMWs?

are they not super fine handling drivers' cars?

my point wasn't to argue.
i was just trying to point out that like the 4wd, rwd, fwd argument, 'best' depends on what type of car it is.

and the 911 it isn't supposedly rear engined.
it is rear engined.
the whole of the block sits behind the rear axle.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

it is rear engined.
the whole of the block sits behind the rear axle.

I thought so. but still the best is brobably a midengine cause of more equal center of weight on the cars chassis.

[drunken monkey]

best is brobably a midengine cause of more equal center of weight on the cars chassis
it's not that simple....

50/50 weight distribution suggests taht the car is perfectly balanced
but in reality, it doesn't quite work like that as in motion, the 'weight' of the car shifts about.
the point of keeping the mass close to the centre of the car is that the driver can better feel what is happening to it
(assuming he is placed near the centre of the mass)

like i said before, there are ways of moving the centre of mass close to the centre of the car, even if the engine is up front.

AND
as porsche have shown
even with a 'stupid' layout,
good handling can be had with smart engineering.
admittedly, it's taken them 41 years to get there....

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

best is brobably a midengine cause of more equal center of weight on the cars chassis
it's not that simple....

50/50 weight distribution suggests taht the car is perfectly balanced
but in reality, it doesn't quite work like that as in motion, the 'weight' of the car shifts about.
the point of keeping the mass close to the centre of the car is that the driver can better feel what is happening to it
(assuming he is placed near the centre of the mass)

like i said before, there are ways of moving the centre of mass close to the centre of the car, even if the engine is up front.

AND
as porsche have shown
even with a 'stupid' layout,
good handling can be had with smart engineering.
admittedly, it's taken them 41 years to get there....

So basically its good and bad then cuase the driver has ore of an affect on the cars performance then. LOL @ porsche 41 years its a good track record though literally