Porsche 944 vs. Nissan 240SX

[ViperVenom1000]

Ok, I know these two guys that have been fighting over who's car is faster. So I'm gonna get ya'lls opinion...

The guy w/ the '94ish model 240SX claims his car will own most anything. He "says" that he's beaten things like 5.0 Mustangs and such, and claims to run 14s, yet he can't even pull hard from a newer Celica GT-S (i think) that runs low 17s like he should if he says he's running 14s. He trys to be all JDM and all that crap, so he's practically a ricer, yet w/ no ridiculously big spoilers, body kits, and that kinda stuff. Body is all stock, has minor mods like CAI, spark plugs, wires, exaust, some weight reduction, and things like that..
This guy also goes thru cars like a fat guy goes thru cupcakes, and the fastest car he's ever had would probably be a 95 Nissan Maxima SE, imo. He's had all the rice cars such as Civics, Integras, and all that jazz..

The guy w/ the Porsche 944 isn't quite sure on what his car can run in a 1/4, but estimates mid to low 15s in his opinion, and many other people's opinions. He knows a good bit about cars and has researched much on his car since it was his dreamcar as a little kid. He doesn't wish to race the 240SX because it would be a waste of time and gas to race him, and he doesn't want to get a ticket for being stupid and racing. He HAS beaten many kinds of Mustangs, anywhere from highly modded V6's and GTs. Not newer Mustangs, but anything from a 2000 and lower. He has some mods, but only because his car needed them since its sorta an older car. Nothing big..

But anyways, who do you all think would win in a race? I believe the Porsche, well because its a damn Porsche. lol. And I mean, a 240SX is practically an economy car. So yea, Economy car vs. a Sports car?
Kinda obvious there if you ask me, but I want other people's opinions on it as well, so reply away!

Oh, by the way, I don't know totally exact details on their cars, so just kinda go by stock comparisons if you want, since I can't give that much detail...

[CassiesMan]

Porsche. Not becuase its a Porsche, but because the Nissan is a bassicaly stock 240SX. Its a high 15 car on a good day, the 944 is lower end of the high 15s to a mid 15. Regarding the Nissan guys comments, a 5.0 Mustang, with miles on the clock and no mods would be a decent race, and a Celica GT-S, with a good driver, will cut a higher mid 14. It might be close, dunno. I know a while back when I was racing a 240, he got damn near three lengths on me off the line (its a stupid emberassing story), but by the end of the race I was pulling past him. But I have a novel idea....




Why don't these guys just go race, come back, and tell us how it went?

[Polygon]

Tell your friend with the 240SX that his car has a truck motor which is why anyone worth their salt would swap in an SR20DET. Anyhow, I think the 944 has the upperhand.

However, we don't allow speculation threads, I'll move this to Non-specific for now.

[BP2K2Max]

Originally Posted by Polygon

Tell your friend with the 240SX that his car has a truck motor which is why anyone worth their salt would swap in an SR20DET. Anyhow, I think the 944 has the upperhand.

However, we don't allow speculation threads, I'll move this to Non-specific for now.

you never met TATII have ya? his KA24 makes more whp than a 350z. SR20's are said to be better for drifting and autoX events whereas the KA makes for a better 1/4 mile performer due to it's extra displacement.

as for the 240 and porsche comparo, just gotta race and find out.

[slideways...]

Originally Posted by Polygon

Tell your friend with the 240SX that his car has a truck motor which is why anyone worth their salt would swap in an SR20DET. Anyhow, I think the 944 has the upperhand.

huh? your mitsu has a galant motor and your chrysler has a minivan motor. but so does mine

theres a KA powered 240sx that runs 9s

but aside from all that jazz, your right the porsche should win. the KA is a fine motor but it needs forced induction to be fast.

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by BP2K2Max

you never met TATII have ya? his KA24 makes more whp than a 350z. SR20's are said to be better for drifting and autoX events whereas the KA makes for a better 1/4 mile performer due to it's extra displacement.

as for the 240 and porsche comparo, just gotta race and find out.

Yeah, I know Tat. I know you can make power with the KA24. I just think it is easier to swap in an SR20DET and be making more power.

JMO.

Originally Posted by slideways...

huh? your mitsu has a galant motor and your chrysler has a minivan motor. but so does mine

theres a KA powered 240sx that runs 9s

Look, I'm not dogging on the KA, I just think that the SR is a better engine. Also, my GTC does NOT have a mini-van engine. They have been using the 2.2L since before the mini-van was created.

[RACER D12]

We kind of need to know a little more about the 944 like year because there are five different 944's. Assuming its just one of the older regular 944's Id say its a drivers race with a slight advantage to the 240sx because its probably lighter. Plus the 944 isn’t really a drag car.

[TatII]

a non turbo KA can hit mid 15's with a great driver. most of them can't break 90mph in the 1/4.

i wouldn't exactly call a 240sx a economy car. its RWD, has great suspension, tons of upgrade potential ( waaaay more then a 944 ) and IT CAN DO ALMOST EVERYTHING if you hook them up properly.

[slideways...]

a 240sx isnt the greatest drag car either, i wouldnt give an advantage to either just by saying one is "meant" to be a drag car. both cars are 4cyl, but iirc the porsche has the bigger motor (isnt it a 3.0L?). but if the guy w/the 240 goes thru cars like crazy, he probably isnt pushing even stock hp anymore. porsche ftw.


oh and technically the KA24DE isnt a truck motor either, since it was made 100% in japan while the truck motor is made 100% in mexico. also, it has a completely different intake manifold that flows quite a bit better. apart from the block it really has more in common with the L24 than the origional z24 truck engine.

[Chiquae07]

id say 944 just because the guy goes through cars really quick. seems like he beats on the cars pretty bad. i could see it now

granny shifting, not double clutchin into 3rd.....

the 944 wins....the 240 doesnt even make it out of 2nd gear......

[RACER D12]

Originally Posted by slideways...

a 240sx isnt the greatest drag car either, i wouldnt give an advantage to either just by saying one is "meant" to be a drag car. both cars are 4cyl, but iirc the porsche has the bigger motor (isnt it a 3.0L?)

No im saying the 240sx has an advantage because its lighter.

As far as the engine like I said before I need to know the year and trim. Most 944's have a 2.5liter engine including the turbos. However there was a 3.0 liter NA version (S2) that made around 210hp (something like that) and had a 16 valve head. That one would kill the 240sx. There was also a 2.7 liter engine made in 89 for the regular 944 which had 162hp. And if he has a 944S the are good for about 18Xhp. Any of the 3 should beat the 240sx. But a regular pre 1989 944 will have its hands full with 240sx.

[slideways...]

consider me enlightened

[nissan_240sx]

not one of these threads again.

[1989iroczaz]

[quote=Chiquae07]granny shifting, not double clutchin into 3rd.....
[quote] straight outa vin diesal's mouth

The porsche will definitely win.

[RSturbo]

1984 Porsche 944 9.0 16.4
1986 Porsche 944 8.9 16.6
1986 Porsche 944 Turbo 6.0 14.6
1988 Porsche 944 8.7 16.6
1988 Porsche 944 S 8.0 16.2
1988 Porsche 944 Turbo 6.6 15.1
1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S 5.5 14.2
1989 Porsche 944 7.5 15.7
1989 Porsche 944 S2 6.6 14.9
1990 Porsche 944 S2 6.7 14.7
vs.
1991 Nissan 240SX SE 7.9 16.1
1993 Nissan 240SX vert 9.6 17.3
1993 Nissan 240SX SE 8.4 16.3
1995 Nissan 240SX SE 8.3 16.1

since you didnt say what year porsche and 94ish 240 i posted all the times i could find so it depends on the year porsche.

it will be a drivers race/ whos car is in better shape/ tires


on to the sr swap it cost like 5 grand so i dont really thing it is worth the money. it is really over rated ;for the price of the swap you could get a turbo for the ka plus some other things.
Also doesnt the ka have more torque then the sr?

but a stockv8 swaped 944 would own a stock sr20det swaped 240.

i say the 944 wins.