95 3KGT SL vs. 95 Stang GT Conv.

[NitroguN]

Ok i already ran a search and found many 3kgt SL vs. Mustang GT threads, but none were helpful. So here's the thing. I plan to take a cruise with some friends down the Jersey shore in April. The fastest car there will be my friend's 1995 Mustang GT Convertible so we definitely are expected to race lol. Now i have total respect for this dude, i mean he IS a v8 and has like 81lbs of more tq on me. He's got total respect for me too. We're definitely puttin on a good show lol.Aside from us are about 4-5 other cars rollin with us, all hondas. So my question is: Can take this 95 GT Convertible from a roll? We're most likely gonna race from 2nd. I'm gonna have a 50lbs. system, and a spare tire in my car. The trip is 1month away so i have time to do minor stuff to my car. I'm ordering an underdrive pully and test pipe, and intake. Also i have these 2 dual exhaust tips, but i'd have to find the specs on them. Should i get those installed too? I'll need all the hp i can get lol i don't care if i get 3hp+ or 10, i'll need it, i wanna take him. Btw he and i are bone stock. I should've souped up my car way before, but i guess since i chyll with only hondas i really never felt the urge to. K thx all in advance for the help.

[Stealthee]

Being a convertible he is heavy as hell. If I remember right the 95 GT was rated at 210hp. It could be a bit more but that os what I am recollecting right now. That being said you should take him pretty well. Hard top 94-95 GT's ran low 15 stock. A convertible 94-95 is going to be high 15's.

[Igovert500]

I would think it would come down to a drivers race. Pretty evenly matched IMO.

[Thourun]

Your mamual right? I think you can take him, our heads flow lots better (dohc vs sohc) so from a roll with the FWD and him being heavy you should edge him out. Thats my prediction.

Ohh and get one of your honda friends to get it on video!

[sLADe781]

Originally Posted by Thourun

Ohh and get one of your honda friends to get it on video!

That will be a good one to see!

[Twizted_3KGT]

Originally Posted by NitroguN

Also i have these 2 dual exhaust tips, but i'd have to find the specs on them.

LOL!

Yeah those exhaust tips will really help you out. Aside from the flaming you should win if you don't suck at shifting, have good tires, clutch, etc.. Personally I think you'd be better off going from a stand still, your car should be a whole second faster than his if you both shift perfect, from a roll i'd say I don't know, no clue how those Stang's are top end.

[NitroguN]

Yea convertible stangs are rated at 215hp. I just found this out this week lol so i was really surprised. All this time i thought he'd be pushin atleast 250hp out of that v8. And yessssssssss it will be video taped. We're actually making this a rule:

All passengers riding shotty Must carry a cam corder.

Well from a roll his drivetrain loss should be in my favor. How much hp percentage do rwd cars such as stangs lose?

I just did some quick shopping. Here's what i ordered:

Highflow test pipe.

Short ram intake.

Chrome hs/ air intake filter.

Underdrive Crank Pulley.

And my exhaust tips are at my garage. The outter rim diameter are 3.5'' if i remember correctly, but the inner piping diameter is smaller. I'd have to check them their specs tomorrow.

I need to get all this done by april 9th Just hope i have enough time. And i hope that's enough to take that stang. Oh and by what i've heard, he's not a very good driver. He's a new driver. I'm decent . But wow you guys think i can take him from a stop? 288lbs. tq vs. 217 lbstq + rwd vs. fwd ...

*Ok i just got my mufflers from my garage. I'll try and find a site with their specs full specs but here they go:

Style: Dual Round Smooth Canisters / Dual Slant Cut Tips
Canister Material: Polished Stainless Steel
Overall Canister Length: 14"
Inlet Pipe Diameter: 2.5"
Overall Width: 9"
Exhaust Outlet Diameter: Dual 4"


http://www.cardomain.com/item/APC156022

One problem, you guys think they'll fit?

[Stealthee]

Might fit on the drivers side but no way in hell it will fit on the passenger side. And yes you would have a good shot at taking down the GT froma stop too.

[NitroguN]

Cool. I want to get those mufflers installed asap. Is there any way to customly fit them? Absolutely no cutting of the bumper though. Is an estimated gain of 10-15hp correct from the minor mods i just listed maybe more? That's just my estimate idk. If i can't get my mufflers to fit in any way, i have a little less than a month to buy other ones.

[Boosted1]

Without the mods, it could go either way. With the mods, you should definitely take him. Especially with those exhaust tips!

[Musashi3000GT]

Mufflers wont do jack unless you get the piping done too. Have a muffler shop install them for you, tell them to cut out the stock pipes and give you a 2 1/4 cat back. then put the mufflers at the end of the cat back, then roll back home and unbolt the catalytic and replace it with the test pipe, all that should give you loads more top end and higher torque. Im guessing close to 16 more hp.
the crank pulley will help out your low end alot more too, you ride off the line alot quicker and ofcourse mufflers and pipes dont mean a thing unless you can force air into the engine as quick as you can get it out. thats where the intake and filter come it.
you take him but your gonna have to shift fast and hold rpms to redline in order to pull each shift. I think you have a better chance from a dig but if you wanna go from a roll then I hope you can drive! I'd advise you not to shift into low gear and wait for him to count down, I personally keep it in high gear and then double clutch to use the initiall jolt to bounce me ahead abit faster but thats just how I drive. good luck bro.

[Igovert500]

I'd say go 2.5" catback...I mean that is the inlet size of his mufflers...and 2.25 is kinda small.

[NitroguN]

thanks for the help guys. Now i'm just anxiously waiting for my test pipe ugh! i ordered it yesterday! lol I'm also waiting on the intake and other mods.

One problem though ..... i'm gonna take the advice and get my pipes done thx mushahi and govert, but lol will those mufflers fit? Stealth already told me it sure as hell won't fit on the passenger side. Well i'm gonna go to the shop asap and find out if they can install them or not, but if they don't fit ..... i dont think i'm gonna spend $200 to buy new ones and $200+ more to get my catback done. So i really really hope they fit. That's basically my only worry. I just asked the previous owner of my car if they would fit and he responded: Yes i measured.

Also, i don't race much, Mushashi double clutching is when you basically "launch" from a roll correct? Apply clutch! + Rev to High Rpm + Release Clutch! Super Combo 150 pts! Is that what double clutching is? If it is then lol yea i do it, but from 3rd gear i don't get TOO much of a jolt. Also, another question, when i have those mods installed and i'm making 20hp more than my 222, where is it better to shift at? I always shift at 6,500rpm since that's our peak for the hp correct?

[Twizted_3KGT]

No that isn't what double clutching is, double clutching has nothing to do with racing. What you stated is simply called keeping your gas pedal to the floor when you shift, also a good way to hurt your car IMO. I could tell you what double clutching is but there's so many threads on it already you can just search real quick.

[NitroguN]

Thx for clearing that up for me Twisted. I've read and tried double clutching, but i'm not very good at it. It'll take practice, but if it can further extend the life of my trans and synchros from what i've read, it's definitely worth it to learn and master. I read that double clutching is "a waste of energy and time" and will just make you slower. Fact or opinion? Anyhow, i'll try to race the stang from a start, but it's a 3 hour trip and 90% of the time we will be on the open road with absolutely no lights. Those damn mufflers better fit! lol