autocross
relientokay
04-14-2003, 07:42 PM
I am going to be getting a skunk2 coilover system with koni yellow shocks, would that be good for auto crossing. Also how do you get into auto x, i know i will need strut bars and all that, but would that be a good stasrt?
esp
04-14-2003, 08:24 PM
*Attention* CivicSiRacer you are needed in here!!!! *Attention*
he will be able to help with everything and everything realted to autocross.
he will be able to help with everything and everything realted to autocross.
liquid8
04-14-2003, 08:50 PM
relientokay. i know this is off the subject but i had to ask. what kind of times do you run in your si???
CivicSiRacer
04-14-2003, 09:18 PM
Read my help page first in my sig.
But realistically you don't need any mods to get started in autocross. The best car to start with is actually a stock car on street tires. This is the best place to start learning cause you can hear and feel when the car is going to break loose or when you are pushing in turns. The tires will give you feed back letting you know when you have gone past the limits of your car.
Also something that I always mention is you can spend $1000 on a nice coilover system and maybe loose about .5-1 second on a 30 second course. Spend $225 on an Evolution School (http://www.autocross.com/evolution) or $50-100 on a Novice Autocross school and loose about 4-8 seconds. Why? The biggest mod you can do to your car is fix the nut behind the wheel. I even thought I was a good driver until I attended my first Evo school last year. I was placing 1-2nd place consistently. After attending the Evo school I dropped 2 seconds on the 30 second course! I would have never gained that much from any mod. Now I place 1st almost wherever I go :)
And now that I'm instructing I'm able to see what I used to do and help others fix their mistakes pretty quickly. I've had students usually placing last or next to last, who now place in the top 3 :)
So save your money for seat time, a school, or just fun runs.
But realistically you don't need any mods to get started in autocross. The best car to start with is actually a stock car on street tires. This is the best place to start learning cause you can hear and feel when the car is going to break loose or when you are pushing in turns. The tires will give you feed back letting you know when you have gone past the limits of your car.
Also something that I always mention is you can spend $1000 on a nice coilover system and maybe loose about .5-1 second on a 30 second course. Spend $225 on an Evolution School (http://www.autocross.com/evolution) or $50-100 on a Novice Autocross school and loose about 4-8 seconds. Why? The biggest mod you can do to your car is fix the nut behind the wheel. I even thought I was a good driver until I attended my first Evo school last year. I was placing 1-2nd place consistently. After attending the Evo school I dropped 2 seconds on the 30 second course! I would have never gained that much from any mod. Now I place 1st almost wherever I go :)
And now that I'm instructing I'm able to see what I used to do and help others fix their mistakes pretty quickly. I've had students usually placing last or next to last, who now place in the top 3 :)
So save your money for seat time, a school, or just fun runs.
KrNxRaCer00
04-14-2003, 09:41 PM
heh, speaking of autocross...imma start up w/ that soon too. only have simple suspension mods (neuspeed race drop, tokico blues, upper tie, lower tie...) an 'm down an ready to go. should be tons of fun. :D
relientokay
04-15-2003, 09:11 AM
im not sure what im running but have beat a Neon r/t with itake and exhaust, and a hyundai tiburon with mods, not sure what. O and a base model neon with an intake, those are the ones ive beat, i have only raced 5 different poeple so far. i found out what i run soon
CivicSiRacer
04-15-2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by relientokay
im not sure what im running but have beat a Neon r/t with itake and exhaust, and a hyundai tiburon with mods, not sure what. O and a base model neon with an intake, those are the ones ive beat, i have only raced 5 different poeple so far. i found out what i run soon
Well at this point right now don't worry about beating other people, but trying to decrease your times compared to other top drivers in your area.
When I first started I would look for the guys who always place 1st or 2nd in other classes. People who are consistently fast. When you get more and more seat time your times should consistently get closer to theirs (your time dropping in comparison).
And you know you are getting good when you can consistently place top 20 in PAX. Then top 10 in PAX. Then like me place 1st in PAX :) So far done that three times since last year.
im not sure what im running but have beat a Neon r/t with itake and exhaust, and a hyundai tiburon with mods, not sure what. O and a base model neon with an intake, those are the ones ive beat, i have only raced 5 different poeple so far. i found out what i run soon
Well at this point right now don't worry about beating other people, but trying to decrease your times compared to other top drivers in your area.
When I first started I would look for the guys who always place 1st or 2nd in other classes. People who are consistently fast. When you get more and more seat time your times should consistently get closer to theirs (your time dropping in comparison).
And you know you are getting good when you can consistently place top 20 in PAX. Then top 10 in PAX. Then like me place 1st in PAX :) So far done that three times since last year.
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