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stratos75
03-15-2008, 09:04 PM
Hi, friends!
I'm Mikhail. It's my first post and I want it would be interesting to look my Thread.
So, I decided to build a scale model of Lancia Stratos Zero in my lovely scale - 1/24.
The Bertone Stratos was designed by Marcello Gandini, who also penned the Lamborghini Miura and
Lamborghini Countach. The Stratos concept was a development of the Bertone designed Alfa Romeo Carabo
Concept from 1968, also a Gandini creation. Access to the interior of the Stratos Zero was done through
the hinged windscreen. The Bertone designed Lancia Stratos Zero prototype used the same engine as the Lancia
1600 HF Fulvia.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/img084res.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/img083res.jpg

My project was begun when my brother created a 3D model of body, engine hood and interior by using the PhotoModeler and CATIA programs.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/catprtscr06res.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/catprtscr10res.jpg

Then he had making a milling work on his home milling machine with computer numerical control.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/frezer.jpg

And I received some moulds and one complete detail (hood).
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/frezer3.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0013res.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0063res.jpg

Then I made a body and mountings from epoxy resin and a carbon.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0077res.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0064res.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0072res.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0056res.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0065res.jpg

That's for today.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0595.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0592.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0593.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0596.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0594.jpg

MPWR
03-15-2008, 09:40 PM
Welcome to AF!

Looks like a very interesting project.

Would you mind posting your text in the normal (size 2) font? Some of us would rather not have to squint our eyes to read your descriptions. :grinyes:

NissanSkylineGTR98
03-15-2008, 10:47 PM
Very interesting project, I never even knew this car existed. Looks great so far, can't wait to see more and welcome to AF!

bigfrit
03-15-2008, 11:19 PM
Whaat?

This is brilliant!

Absolutely gorgeous, is the model itself in carbon fibre? That sounds a bit strange, are you planning to make some limited copies of it, I know some might want to buy some!

MidMazar
03-15-2008, 11:31 PM
I wonder how hard that program is to use. Please post more!!!

mrawl
03-16-2008, 03:54 AM
Wow, this is super-interesting. Thanks for posting.

stratos75
03-16-2008, 07:28 AM
...is the model itself in carbon fibre?...
No, there's no carbon that years.
...are you planning to make some limited copies of it...
I think about it, but I have not solved while.

denman2
03-16-2008, 10:34 AM
Excelent build.
Is there gonna be an engine inside or will it be curbside.

I will follow this build.

denman

stratos75
03-16-2008, 01:37 PM
...Is there gonna be an engine inside or will it be curbside...
Yes, I want to make it fully open.

Tripmaster
03-16-2008, 02:56 PM
look like a pretty expensive and interesting project. however, i'm not sure if this is still car modeling. i'd say it's more machinig than modeling

thadude
03-16-2008, 05:37 PM
Looks a realy intrestion project.
You're planning on doing resins of this model to sell ?

DarrenGR
03-17-2008, 05:04 AM
Wow! Must be great to have that kind of access to technology and certainly can't fault your subject choice - I love that car!

Can't wait for the updates to come and details of an available release?? More info now please!!!!!

Darren (LanciaNut!)

gionc
03-17-2008, 11:40 AM
As I said in advance: just superb! Bravo!

ciao

sjelic
03-18-2008, 03:21 AM
My my, real jaw dropper. I wait for more...soon I hope.

stratos75
03-28-2008, 09:37 PM
Thank you friends!
I shall not be able to produce kits, because it's very hard process for alone.
I have no much free time, so I work slowly. Now, little update.
drawn the line of the cut
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0612res.jpg

cut out the door
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0615res.jpg

filling
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0617res.jpg

ready
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0634res.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/IMG_0635res.jpg

it must be very realistic
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/11.jpg

stratos75
05-18-2008, 06:51 PM
Hi friends!
So, I began to work on engine in April. I make it from polystyrene manually.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0661res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0662res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0663res.jpg

Rib of the cooling the oil tray are made from copper wire.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0800res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0801res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0803res.jpg

Today it looks so.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0864res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0866res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0863res.jpg

Now I can to work at milling machine by itself, and this is my first independent work. This is a seat-back.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/seat01.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/pwrmll.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0837res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0841res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0845res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0860res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0859res.jpg

:smile:

rsxse240
05-18-2008, 08:50 PM
Absolutely outstanding! This is a car that I have seen, actually. I was living in Pennsylvania, and my cousin was a Lamborghini buff. He actually has a model of this car. It is quite crude, and lacking in detail, but none the less recognizable.

It was said that this appears to be more of a machining than modeling build. I have to disagree. I don't care what medium you use, what method, or technique, you are building a model, therefore it is modeling. I know if I had the income to support a 5 axis milling machine, rapid prototyping system, and the knowledge to use them, I'd be modeling cars with those methods all the time. forget about buying kits any more! lol

as for the question about the car being carbon, I believe it was asked in reference to the model you are building.

924_CarreraGTS
05-18-2008, 09:31 PM
:eek2: :thumbsup:

Awesome work! Welcome to AF!

Alex

DVST8R
05-18-2008, 11:08 PM
Wow this is nuts!

Fkouch
05-19-2008, 05:16 PM
Awesome!

That's the car that Michael Jackson turns into in Moonwalker. :)

DerXL
05-20-2008, 12:12 PM
Unbelievable stuff !!!

I'm (almost) speechless...
Great work !!!

voyageur
05-20-2008, 03:13 PM
This is absolutely amazing and must be called art rather than just modeling :)

I wish I had the opportunity to access such nice tools!
Keep it up!

daniel_k
05-20-2008, 06:39 PM
man those machines are amazing...but it's very expensive, so I can only dream of one :-(

daniel
-germany-

stratos75
08-31-2008, 04:04 PM
Thanks to all for kind words!

I began to make an interior
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/interior_2res1.jpg

The steering wheel. Later I shall milling an emblem Lancia on it.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0415res1.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0416res1.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0430res1.jpg

The seats.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0477res1.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0478res1.jpg

Side panels.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0479res1.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0480res1.jpg

The steering column.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0481res1.jpg

All together.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0428res1.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0485res1.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0486res1.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0487res1.jpg

Trying on
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0484tres1.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0483res1.jpg

robrex
08-31-2008, 07:07 PM
Wow!

tuned.by.twenty
08-31-2008, 10:59 PM
Marvelous!

360spider
09-01-2008, 12:17 AM
Mish, eshe raz, super. Kak tam voobshe progress-to idet?

jano11
09-01-2008, 05:29 AM
Very nice progress with this scratch built model! :thumbsup:

stratos75
09-01-2008, 04:59 PM
Many thanks!
I had drew the Lancia's emblem very long :silly:. I hope soon you will see it. The one steering wheel I spoiled:banghead: , and now do the new one.
Mish, eshe raz, super. Kak tam voobshe progress-to idet?
Spasibo, Lesh! Progress ne ochen' bystryj - slishkom malo svobodnogo vremeni... Sejchas pytajus' sdelat' klassnyj rul' s emblemoj.

Enzoenvy1
09-02-2008, 02:34 PM
Now that is model building at its finest - from scratch. Well, from scratch with the help of a CNC machine, lol. Great build and process.

klutz_100
09-02-2008, 03:32 PM
Holy schmoley!! :eek2:
(that's Polish for something about a mać and a job ;) )

When I miss a thread I certainly miss the good ones!!
Amazing project :worshippy

The Modeler
09-02-2008, 04:59 PM
Incredible, amazing, i haven't words for this work. you a re from the other world!

ekaintc
09-03-2008, 05:21 PM
OMG. I don't like the car, but you're doing an awesome work!!

Amazing mate!:eek::eek:

Keep the good work!

nugundam93
09-06-2008, 05:44 PM
amazing work!

and i'm too green with envy with your access to the prototyping tools. :)

stratos75
09-11-2008, 07:11 PM
Thanks!
At last I have made an ill-fated steering wheel! It has appeared much more difficult than I thought. The spokes are very thin and often broke. May be I shall made them from wire. So, it is my fifth attempt.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/rul_11res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/DSC016931res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0501res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0503res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0508res.jpg

The valve cover of the engine will be my next work. Wait for update soon!

klutz_100
09-12-2008, 12:57 AM
I hope you are going to make molds of all this and make resin copies so I can buy a kit!! :D

Lovely work :thumbsup:

jano11
09-12-2008, 08:38 AM
Wonderful work.
You've got a cnc machine to do all the work?

stratos75
09-12-2008, 02:08 PM
I hope you are going to make molds of all this and make resin copies so I can buy a kit!! :D

Lovely work :thumbsup:

Thank you!
Be patient. I will make the molds and few kits necessarily, but probably it will occur after some years :grinyes:

Wonderful work.
You've got a cnc machine to do all the work?

:grinno: Only the most visible details.

klutz_100
09-12-2008, 02:25 PM
Be patient. I will make the molds and few kits necessarily, but probably it will occur after some years :grinyes:
That's fine - just don't forget me! :evillol: :D

klutz_100
09-12-2008, 02:31 PM
Be patient. I will make the molds and few kits necessarily, but probably it will occur after some years :grinyes:
That's fine - just don't forget me! :evillol: :D

stratos75
09-17-2008, 04:39 PM
Hi to all! There is another one detail . It is the valve cover of the engine . It's not quite ideally, but I am satisfied.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/cover_01.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0512res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0511res.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/stratos75/Stratos%20Zero/IMG_0504res.jpg

The next step will be the gearbox

jano11
09-17-2008, 05:00 PM
Nice job on the valve cover! :thumbsup:
Looking forward to the gearbox!
Where do you get the blue prints for all the parts you design and machine?

stratos75
09-17-2008, 05:39 PM
I have not any blue prints on this car. I do all by photos.

jano11
09-18-2008, 05:28 AM
You do a very good job considering the lack of blue prints! Keep it up! :)

rockinanko
09-20-2008, 03:01 AM
This is definitely my first time witnessing a model build in such a high-tech fashion, never imagine this was possible, especially in a hobby arena...it is now.

so this is how makers like tamiya & revell churn out before every new kit was produced, that's the '+ mold'. then they fabricate the '- mold' from this & start the plastic injection process...

i applaud the use of such technology to make new, never seen before models, for the accuracy & precision it provides is 99.99% spot on.

but i wonder if this is gonna kill off the fun from this old hobby, where the dissatisfied / advanced modelor will ever takes the next plunge in trying to build models the unconventional way.

no, i'm not trying to discriminate anything. modeling has sharpened & increased my brainstorming abilities in many ways since i broke away from building solely out-of-the-box to my current stage.

i could create parts not easily available / existed by using only styrene & anything i could lay my hands on, abeit in acceptable accuracies / deficiencies, with some thinking.

but if i were to sit back, hope & pray all my modeling needs will be provided somehow or rather, sooner or later...as long as i have enough $$$ to buy them when they're available, will i be the same person as i am now!?

is this the way all modelors will go some day?

just for thoughts...cheers!:rolleyes:

jano11
09-20-2008, 05:56 AM
so this is how makers like tamiya & revell churn out before every new kit was produced, that's the '+ mold'. then they fabricate the '- mold' from this & start the plastic injection process...

Not really, the manufacturers that produce plastic injection kits use metallic molds. They do directly design and produce their molds.

The "garage" kit manufacturers (resin kit manufacturers) however use the method that you described (make a prototype and than make the molds using that).

stratos75
09-21-2008, 05:13 PM
You may to think anything you want, but it's my own way, and I like it.
May be you would laugh, but today I deside to make a new house for my kit :lol2: , because I like to keep all in perfect order. In past life this was the Tamiya box from Nissan Skyline R32.

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3107/mikhailpetrenko.0/0_1bdab_f67bbb09_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114091/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114091/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3107/mikhailpetrenko.0/0_1bda7_40267e61_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114087/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114087/)

360spider
09-21-2008, 06:32 PM
You may to think anything you want, but it's my own way, and I like it.
May be you would laugh, but today I deside to make a new house for my kit :lol2: , because I like to keep all in perfect order. In in past life this was the Tamiya box from Nissan Skyline R32.

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3107/mikhailpetrenko.0/0_1bdab_f67bbb09_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114091/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114091/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3107/mikhailpetrenko.0/0_1bda7_40267e61_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114087/)
Посмотреть на Яндекс.Фотках (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/114087/)


Way cool. What are you going to name the model company? :-) I don't see a logo on the box yet.

Lee in Texas
09-22-2008, 08:21 PM
I'm very impressed. That model is incredible. Will you let someone make a resin copy? Can you make parts for a second kit? I would love to have a model of a Stratos Zero.

Lee

AmazonSprite
10-07-2008, 02:24 PM
Hope it's not too late to be of use - just seem that a recreation is up for sale by auction & there are loads of pics that might be good for reference;

http://www.rmauctions.com/Carlist.cfm?SaleCode=LF08&Page=4&Category=Cars&Collection=&SortBy=RO&Search=# (lot 288)

jano11
10-07-2008, 04:34 PM
Great idea with that box, I love it! :thumbsup:

Hope it's not too late to be of use - just seem that a recreation is up for sale by auction & there are loads of pics that might be good for reference;

http://www.rmauctions.com/Carlist.cfm?SaleCode=LF08&Page=4&Category=Cars&Collection=&SortBy=RO&Search=# (lot 288)

Great find.

Reading the description I found this part hilarious:
"Saunders painted his Zero a striking Lamborghini Mica Orange, quite close to the original’s metallic hue. "

Just how close is Mica Orange to Metallic Blue?! :rofl:

drunken monkey
10-07-2008, 05:41 PM
Reading the description I found this part hilarious:
"Saunders painted his Zero a striking Lamborghini Mica Orange, quite close to the original’s metallic hue. "

Just how close is Mica Orange to Metallic Blue?! :rofl:

maybe you want to read that again.

jano11
10-08-2008, 06:21 AM
maybe you want to read that again.

Oups, what a tool I am. gonna have to hide somewhere for a long time. :banghead:

RetroFuturist
11-17-2008, 11:27 AM
This Model is AMAZING!!! :eek2::eek2:





The Stratos Zero has always been one of my favorite cars. I wish I had a CNC like that sitting in my garage, I would never leave home.

Is there anyway you be able to help out with the dimensions of the car such as overall length, width, etc....so that I could possibly start my own model?

Mikezibit
11-17-2008, 12:24 PM
great box design

your kit ???


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LANCIA-STRATOS-1970-CONCEPT-1-24-Resin-Kit-Bertone-RARE_W0QQitemZ220311752461QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item220311752461&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

RetroFuturist
11-17-2008, 01:04 PM
I saw that on eBay also....no that is not his Kit....that is an old APEX Kit that is no longer made.

He has not said that he would be making a kit yet, but I would buy one if he did!

stratos75
11-17-2008, 06:18 PM
I saw that on eBay also....no that is not his Kit....that is an old APEX Kit that is no longer made.

He has not said that he would be making a kit yet, but I would buy one if he did!
That kit is much more worse than my model. I do not recommend it to try to get. I hope I can make a quantity of own kits or I will give molds to smb. who can to produce mine kit. Be patient!
BTW: little update. The lower jaw and the rear gearbox cover. The last one I shall rebuild, because I want to insert bolts into it.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3100/mikhailpetrenko.2/0_1f4a7_a090dfd7_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/128167/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3001/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_1f713_65fba0c9_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/128787/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3102/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_1f712_8251f3ad_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/128786/)

stratos75
11-19-2008, 06:02 PM
I am satisfied by result at the third attempt (the right on the first photo). I have forgotten about the bottom lugs on the second cover. There is a dry fitting of resin bolts on the second photo.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3302/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_1fa76_2678731e_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/129654/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3006/mikhailpetrenko.3/0_1fa77_9e52c0cb_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/129655/)

AustinMartin
11-19-2008, 06:17 PM
Awesome!!!

djshadow2k
11-27-2008, 03:10 PM
Stunning!!

Эх, хотел бы я знать, где в Кишиневе можно получить доступ к такому станку....

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