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ZC v. Y8 RESULTS!!!


IM4U2NV81
04-13-2003, 01:44 AM
Hello all and everyone else,
I have a lil story to tell. But, you have to wait till later....nah, just kidding. So all of your BULLSHIT has been put to rest with some R&D testing. The ZC did NOT whip the Y8...nor did the Y8 whip the ZC. It went something like this. From a 20 (?, I think it was about 20, maybe 30) the ZC pulled about a half a car and stayed there till about 80. From a dead stop, the Y8 pulled about a car and stayed there until about 80 at which the ZC said he was catching, I don't know, I was looking forward. HOWEVER, this is w/o VTEC hooked up, which will be done this weekend and then we are both going to the track on Friday. I think once VTEC is engaged the Y8 will win, no questions. So, like I thought, it was very close. Unlike Seth thought, the ZC did not and WILL NOT run the Y8 into the ground and shit in it's mouth, case closed. This has been my experience, Ami seems to have the same. DEUCE!!! and until next time...AND DEEEEN...

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 02:15 AM
I will still smoke you with my ZC so it matters not :finger: :devil:

civickiller
04-13-2003, 05:41 AM
u say this test, but was it accurate i mean it doesnt sound to accurate. cause doesnt the zc have more torque than the y8, so it will win off the line, so im thinking the zc launched too high and was spining tire if it wasnt winning off the line. and then with the y8 not having vtec, i would think the zc and the y8 would be up and up. so i was thinking hte zc would win just because it should win off the line and stay equal for the rest of the race. thats my thought on it.

amy@af
04-13-2003, 10:45 AM
you done me proud kenny :ylsuper

civickiller, no matter what the zc vs the y8 will ALWAYS come down to reaction time and shifting skills. the engines are very closley matched. it's not like throwing a b16 in the mix....that should win everytime against either of those (stock vs. stock)

for the fun of it, you guys should switch cars and see what happens :D

nicks91civicsi
04-13-2003, 11:21 AM
is the Y8 sohc vtec?

amy@af
04-13-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by nicks91civicsi
is the Y8 sohc vtec?

yup, yup....comes out of the 96-00 Civic EX

91civicDXdude
04-13-2003, 12:31 PM
sohc vtec engine with no vtec = teh suck

the other day for fun, i raced my older brother who has a stock Geo Storm which is a 1.6L SOHC 12 valve. needless to say it was like a gokart vs. honda. but then i turned my vtec controller off and it was very close race. without the benefit of the vtec lobes, the little z6 was a total turd over 4500 rpm.

SO,
if you raced a ZC without VTEC and it was an even race, hook the vtec up and you will :smoker2: :smoker2: :smoker2: :smoker2:

civickiller
04-13-2003, 02:49 PM
what i was trying to say ami was that since the y8 didnt have vtec, i would think the zc would win

nicks91civicsi
04-13-2003, 07:33 PM
doesnt a stock zc have more hp and torque than a y8. even id it doesnt, a zc with basic bolt ons has a lot more potential than a y8 with bolt ons will ever have cuz of the dohc.

IM4U2NV81
04-13-2003, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by seth 90DX/ZC
I will still smoke you with my ZC so it matters not :finger: :devil:
looks like it's easy to talk from CA when I'm in FL...so you're right, it just doesn't matter. Oh yeah, so what's your compression ratio? Right, that's what I thought.

IM4U2NV81
04-13-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by civickiller
u say this test, but was it accurate i mean it doesnt sound to accurate. cause doesnt the zc have more torque than the y8, so it will win off the line, so im thinking the zc launched too high and was spining tire if it wasnt winning off the line. and then with the y8 not having vtec, i would think the zc and the y8 would be up and up. so i was thinking hte zc would win just because it should win off the line and stay equal for the rest of the race. thats my thought on it.

quit thinking, you're hurting us all!

IM4U2NV81
04-13-2003, 08:08 PM
oh shit guys, I just looked at my laptop and my manifold is in danger!!! I just noticed this as my floorboard fell off. What do I do now? Oh well, I will continue to beat ZC's a quarter of a mile at a time. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA!!! oh yeah, HA!!

amy@af
04-13-2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by nicks91civicsi
doesnt a stock zc have more hp and torque than a y8. even id it doesnt, a zc with basic bolt ons has a lot more potential than a y8 with bolt ons will ever have cuz of the dohc.

ummmm, no. dohc doesn't mean a thing. the y8 has vtec. zc have an extra lobe for high rpm??? nope. what matters are the numbers...

zc:
1595cc
4 cyl, 16 valve
DOHC
9.:1 c.r.
PGM-FI (MPFI)
Power: 137 bhp @ 6800
Redline: 7200 rpm
Torque: 108 lb-ft @ 5700


d16y8:
1590cc
4 cyl, 16 valve
SOHC VTEC-II
9.6:1 c.r.
PGM-FI (MPFI)
Power: 127 bhp @ 6600
Redline: 7200 rpm
Torque: 107 lb-ft @ 5500

those specs are so close.....it does not matter one has dohc and one has vtec. i've said it before and i'll say it again....it is an even match that boils down to reaction time and driving skill.

seriously...make it interesting.....swap cars one night an see which car wins ;)

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by ihaveanSTD

looks like it's easy to talk from CA when I'm in FL...so you're right, it just doesn't matter. Oh yeah, so what's your compression ratio? Right, that's what I thought.

Its easy for me to talk shit cause I have over $3000 into my engine right now and Im not done yet. :finger: As for my compression ratio (Which you dont have a clue about, btw what is your compression ratio?... Thats what I thought.) Here are the ones i am running:
ZC(43.8 cc): NA (High) 75.5 mm 10.52-11.16:1 19.0 mm 285/80
http://www.theoldone.com/components/pistons/b18c_rollerwave.jpg
http://www.theoldone.com/components/pistons/

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by LadyNRedSi


ummmm, no. dohc doesn't mean a thing. the y8 has vtec. zc have an extra lobe for high rpm??? nope. what matters are the numbers...

zc:
1595cc
4 cyl, 16 valve
DOHC
9.:1 c.r.
PGM-FI (MPFI)
Power: 137 bhp @ 6800
Redline: 7200 rpm
Torque: 108 lb-ft @ 5700


d16y8:
1590cc
4 cyl, 16 valve
SOHC VTEC-II
9.6:1 c.r.
PGM-FI (MPFI)
Power: 127 bhp @ 6600
Redline: 7200 rpm
Torque: 107 lb-ft @ 5500

those specs are so close.....it does not matter one has dohc and one has vtec. i've said it before and i'll say it again....it is an even match that boils down to reaction time and driving skill.

seriously...make it interesting.....swap cars one night an see which car wins ;)

BTW ami, 10 hp and 2 ft lbs of torque go a long ass way in a 2000 Lb car ;) And two camshafts does meen a thing, it allows for alot more tuning options.... Not to mention that because the Y8 is so great and makes all its power in the HIGH RPM range, this gives the zc a much more aggresive power band since it makes peak power @ 6800 and the Y8 makes its @ 7200-7400? So you think those higher rpms are helping you eh? WRONG, they just prolong the inevitable.... You see, it takes a longer amount of time for the engine to spin up to those higher rpms and produce max HP, the ZC does it @ at least 400 rpms earlier. This guy is iether bullshiting out his ass, or his frend sucks ass at driving so bad it not even worth giving him praise... Like racing my 18 year old neaghbor :rolleyes:

amy@af
04-13-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by seth 90DX/ZC


BTW ami, 10 hp and 2 ft lbs of torque go a long ass way in a 2000 Lb car ;)

and you know what seth? those y8 specs are rated for the heavier 96-00 EX....so don't you get all happy on your chump change of 10hp and 2 ft of torque.

next i am SICK of your stupid zc. you keep running the mouth about it. like trying to boast about it but, nobody cares. does it make you feel big to think your "$3000" engine is going to go so much faster? god damn....we all know you are getting engine work done. what does that have to do with friends who have a stock zc and a stock y8 who raced?

stick your engine in and go to the track and get some timeslips.....or go get laid because the "my ZC i'm building is the fastest zc in the world" routeen is OLD.

here i'll save you the time of ripping my car apart. my replacement daily driven y8 engine is stock. i do not EVER go to the track...no do i ever claim to be a racer. the STOCK zc and the STOCK sohc vtec is a close match and i stand by that. the only "race" my y8 has ever been against a zc was t-diddy's zc...a "race" between friends.

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 09:14 PM
Ohhh... A little touchy about your Y8 are we? I didnt even think you liked to go fast! After all, he did antagonize me... I was just stating the fact that his Y8 will get eaten alive... :apoke: Ya wanna antagonize me bitch? Antagonize me.

amy@af
04-13-2003, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by seth 90DX/ZC
Ohhh... A little touchy about your Y8 are we? I didnt even think you liked to go fast! After all, he did antagonize me... I was just stating the fact that his Y8 will get eaten alive... :apoke: Ya wanna antagonize me bitch? Antagonize me.

what world do you live in? i just stated my Y8 is a REPLACEMENT daily driven engine. i just stated i don't race. are you even reading my replies before you open your mouth?

if you think i'm the one that is touchy about their engine... if you think i'm the one running around claiming my engine is the fastest...then you need to sit back down and read the 500 replies you have left all over af about your zc.

the really sad thing is....all you got out of my reply is that i'm "touchy about my y8"

PS...so much for your predictions his sohc vtec was gonna get eaten alive, huh? did you forget to read the part he had no vtec as well?

Civic Rush
04-13-2003, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by LadyNRedSi

here i'll save you the time of ripping my car apart. my replacement daily driven y8 engine is stock. i do not EVER go to the track...no do i ever claim to be a racer. the STOCK zc and the STOCK sohc vtec is a close match and i stand by that. the only "race" my y8 has ever been against a zc was t-diddy's zc...a "race" between friends.

but what about racing my F22........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:eek: :D :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by LadyNRedSi


are you even reading my replies before you open your mouth?

if you think i'm the one that is touchy about their engine... if you think i'm the one running around claiming my engine is the fastest...

the really sad thing is....all you got out of my reply is that i'm "touchy about my y8"

PS...so much for your predictions his sohc vtec was gonna get eaten alive, huh? did you forget to read the part he had no vtec as well?

:rolleyes:

amy@af
04-13-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Civic Rush


but what about racing my F22........hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:eek: :D :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:


wheeeeeeeee! that was fun. :jump:

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 09:35 PM
Shit, I'll smoke you all in my cesna... and still get better MPG :finger:

Civic Rush
04-13-2003, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by seth 90DX/ZC
Shit, I'll smoke you all in my cesna... and still get better MPG :finger:

well I will tell you what......why don't you just bring your car and we can run them and decide from there........OH WAIT that would mean that you have to push it. I don't see how you can talk any shit.....YOUR CAR DOES NOT EVEN RUN.......so untill then you really can't say a damn thing......

so what we have here is someone talkin shit on statistics alone and that is bullshit....You CAN NOT go off of statistics alone....:mad:

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 10:49 PM
LOL! My car runs dude. I just havent swaped in the new motor yet... The trusty ol D16A6 is still in there ;)

Cjz89civic
04-13-2003, 11:01 PM
Seth you are a ass and we all know it so it really dont matter. But any way I will be glad when your 3000 dollar all machine shop built for you engine gets spanked by a 1000 junkyard motor that some poor guy built in his garage. AND I HOPE IT IS A D15 so you will stop posting about your dumb fucking zc... Just my thoughts love and kisses

Melt
04-13-2003, 11:01 PM
yeah and if I had MPFI my SOHC ZC would probably take out your D16A6 ... but oh wait, no mpfi, so I cant .... just like no zc ... so right now your car wont take out a y8

When you get your ZC in york2600 will probably have his b20/vtec built up by then so you can have fun getting smoked ... while knowing he spent less than 3k.

Cjz89civic
04-13-2003, 11:03 PM
Oh ya go ami go ami :silly2: :silly2: :silly2:

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 11:06 PM
YAY! Faggot instigators!

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 11:07 PM
Fuck you all... Oh especialy you ami... Go ahead and kick me you fucking one sided bitch. You cant stop me from comming back here and talking shit under another name... So it does you absolutley no good.

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 11:08 PM
Like I give a fuck about you stupid mother fuckers anyway... I meen all you do is sit around and talk a bunch of shit. I see no one talking any tech here, I see only a bunch of fucking newbs. :flipa:

Tony
04-13-2003, 11:09 PM
Alright Seth your gone, please remove your TLD sig pic. That is the last straw, I will not stand in anyone elses way, you are gone. Hope you have fun.

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 11:09 PM
Oh look, Im talking more shit! Fuck you ami, and all you fucking retards.. Lets see, a Y8 can also smoke a BUILT ass ZC now huh...

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 11:10 PM
Y8's are the best motor ever built because they are Vtec and they are a D series! :eek:

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Tony
Alright Seth your gone, please remove your TLD sig pic. That is the last straw, I will not stand in anyone elses way, you are gone. Hope you have fun.

Fuck you tony. In fact fuck that little club as well. Your not going anywere man, ya dun know shit.

95civicman
04-13-2003, 11:11 PM
yes yes yes it's true i did get beat once and old dude was right i was spinnin really bad all through 1st, i have to get my lauch down before friday at the track, i might have to work so i don't know if i can make it =[(and i was catching up!!! :D)

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Cjz89civic
Seth you are a ass and we all know it so it really dont matter. But any way I will be glad when your 3000 dollar all machine shop built for you engine gets spanked by a 1000 junkyard motor that some poor guy built in his garage. AND I HOPE IT IS A D15 so you will stop posting about your dumb fucking zc... Just my thoughts love and kisses

Let he who is without an ass thow the first tird... Bitch.

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 11:14 PM
Dum de dum... Kick me so i can come back and talk some more shit and show everyone how powerfull these "MODS" realy are :rolleyes:

seth 90DX/ZC
04-13-2003, 11:15 PM
Every mod on this board is a self ritchous prick, just like me! You got something to say? What?... Go ahead mother fuckers, talk some shit.

Civic Rush
04-13-2003, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by seth 90DX/ZC


Fuck you tony. In fact fuck that little club as well. Your not going anywere man, ya dun know shit.

holy man you can talk alot of shit behind a monitor can't you....Do you feel big now or what.....just because you think that your little ZC is all big and bad and you can't prove shit that gives you the right to talk shit about everyone elses motors.....So what you put a whopping 3000 dollars into a ZC....comeon man who is the bitch here...I think that it is you.. You can talk all you want behind the computer...but untill you are ready to bring it in REAL LIFE...then STFU:flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa:

amy@af
04-13-2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by seth 90DX/ZC
Oh look, Im talking more shit! Fuck you ami, and all you fucking retards.. Lets see, a Y8 can also smoke a BUILT ass ZC now huh...

thank you for continuing to prove my point over and over again. i'm not going to delete your demonstration of needing anger management and living in a dream world.

sorry kenny.....someone ruined your thread AGAIN....

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