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96 Civic?!?!?


Pondscum
03-11-2003, 09:07 PM
Ok, I am new to all this shit, but would love to build a sweet little street ride, I am looking at a 96 Civic Coupe. WHat kind of motor/transmission should get dropped into this car?? Any links you could provide would be so so so helpful!

crxlvr
03-11-2003, 10:44 PM
b series motors drop in very easily to those 6th gens.

civickiller
03-12-2003, 03:01 AM
if you ahve the money i say drop in a b18c1 which is a gsr motor

Pondscum
03-12-2003, 02:14 PM
On another forum somebody wrote this "get a B18C5 and an Apexi turbo kit and some other stuff" Is that any good?

BLU CIVIC
03-12-2003, 02:16 PM
b18c5 is what i prefer but i can't afford $5000 for the engine, tranny, and ecu......:( .....the itr engines and most popular but the most expensive engines

Pondscum
03-12-2003, 02:42 PM
ok, maybe this will clarify things, I will have 6K to spend on the motor and any other performance needs, assuming I will not make any other major modifications, (All parts must work with current motor etc) what should I buy to get the most performance for the buck?? Any help is always appreciated.

BLU CIVIC
03-12-2003, 04:38 PM
u could go b18c5 w/ a turbo but after paring at least $4500 + $1000 for installation....ur left with $500....

i think the better alternative would be the jdm b18c1 and turbo setup on that....

CAptynCrunch
03-12-2003, 04:48 PM
Yep, like i said in the other thread, forget the C5. It would be a waste of money if your going to turbocharge it. Get a JDM, or even USDM B18C1 and then turbo charge it.

Costs will vary, mostly depending on how much of the work you can do yourself. Also, custom personal built turbos are usually much cheaper and offer better performance but require more skill and knowledge and also don't come with the gaurentees of a commercial kit.

civickiller
03-12-2003, 05:36 PM
well a gsr swap unless yoru doing it yourself, will cost around 5000. so if you only got 6000 to spend, that doesnt leave your much. you could afford, i think, a b16 turbo. which would be faster than the gsr.

i think it all depends on what you want, for example. are you gonna turn this car into like a 11 sec car ? do you want a car that just runs like 14s or 13s ? do you just want little more power ? you need to tell us more about waht you want your car to be like in the end and how much power you want

funkdaflex1
03-12-2003, 06:26 PM
hey man if u got the money or save a lil more get the b18c5 which is a type are motor lower the compression and turno it. Be carefull with the compression if u turbo any motor u want it to be just right.On the other hand a b16a motor and swap should only cost u no more than 4 grand and get a turbo and later do internal and crap you'll be fast as hell:D

Pondscum
03-12-2003, 06:37 PM
This car is getting alot of Exterior/Interior Mods and is 80% show. I just don't want it to be a total pansy too. I mean hell, if it looks bad ass it better be able to hold its own against stock shit........... I really wanna do some preliminary larg improvements (Motor + Turbo) and maybe spend a little $$ down the line making other additions as well..... Thanks for all the help so far and please keep the ideas coming!

funkdaflex1
03-12-2003, 06:42 PM
if its show a nicely dressed b16a turbo will make people happy and wont think ur a pansy and will keep u satisfied while driving but if people knew u had a b18c5 the type R motor i know i would be kissing ur feet at that very moment and make u my god.

civickiller
03-13-2003, 04:35 AM
now flunkdaflex is funny and wrong. you see flunkdaflex think the type r motor is a god or soemthing. when the rest of the world would be happier to see a b16 turbo because it would spank a type r motor, plus turbos look cool. witha b16 turbo, no one will think your a pansy, well except maybe the type r kids who think they are faster than you but youll spank them anyways.

i think a b18c turbo is cool looking, followed by a b16 turbo, then those shitty type r motors. but with any one of these motors turbo motors, you will spank

BLU CIVIC
03-13-2003, 05:43 AM
i'd go with the b16 from the civic type r.....same red valve cover as the b18c5 but in the end u'll pay less...and it still has a big aftermarket following....wonder if u can do the homemade turbo with the b16?

Pondscum
03-13-2003, 01:18 PM
Blue got a link to the exact motor you are referring to?? Thanxs.

Also, what are some decent turbo kits for a B18C1 motor?? Links???

Thanks Again!

BLU CIVIC
03-13-2003, 01:29 PM
WELCOME......HEY COULD U DO A HOMEMADE TURBO WITH THE B18C1?? WWW.HOMEMADETURBO.COM IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION

CAptynCrunch
03-13-2003, 01:41 PM
For the love of hell people, it's a waste to spend the extra cash on a type R engine if you just going to change the pistons for lower comp. ones and then turbo it negating most of the gains from the head work.

If your going to go all motor sure, a B18C5 or a B16B would be good because they have lighter internals, higher compression ratios and head work. However this stuff is mostly pointless, if not detrimental to a turbo setup. So really, why would you pay MORE money for something that your going to change anyways. This way your paying more for the upgraded head and internals, then you have to take them out and replace them with other parts that would cost you even more money again. Just because it's a type R engine doesn't mean it's the better choice.

If your going mostly for show I suggest a B16A or a B18C1, or maybe even a B18B would be a good choice. Then turbo it and with other basic bolt-ons you should be making enough to keep the car relatively quick. On a side note though, don't use wheels bigger than 16 inches, they will slow you down a LOT.

Bottom line, don't waste the money on the type-R engine. It's all just hype from people who are more impressed with the image than actualy times.

B16EJ1
03-15-2003, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by CAptynCrunch
Bottom line, don't waste the money on the type-R engine. It's all just hype from people who are more impressed with the image than actualy times.

Why do people always say that? The hype about Type R's is what's put out by people who wish they had a Type R. The people with Type R motors build Honda's for what they were made for.... autox, NOT DRAG RACING!!!!

civickiller
03-15-2003, 10:24 AM
there is a fat type r hype, its the people who think that if you get a type r engine, youll run 10s

IMO the type r motor is only good for 1) people who are only going show because its a cool motor for shows 2) people who dont race or race very little and just wanna brag they got a type r

the type r motor is not good for racing. if i only wanted to run 14s and thats it, id get a type r motor.

but also keep this in mind if you only plan on running the turbo at no more than 7psi, then a type r motor at 7psi will have more power than a b18c1 at 7psi.

funkdaflex1
03-15-2003, 10:30 AM
civickiller the typeR motor was specificly built for racing hence the R.

civickiller
03-15-2003, 12:24 PM
yeah you think the type r was built for racing, hmm. do you know anyone that races a stock type r ? well they should right because thats the race engine, but sorry to say they dont. why because its slow

B16EJ1
03-15-2003, 01:20 PM
Yes they do race Type R's.....like I said befor autox. The drag strip is not the only type of racing. :rolleyes: It's made for the track not the strip. Take all your 12/10 sec cars,H22 swapped civics, crvtec's, and see what happens in the track.

V00D00
03-15-2003, 03:29 PM
mmm engine wars. i love this.
So from what im reading the b18c5 type r isnt worth the extra money?
So all in all what is the engine of choice?

BLU CIVIC
03-15-2003, 07:53 PM
b18c5 is worth the extra money and it isn't.......i'd go for the b15c1....if i had the money i'd get the b18c5....but since u have 6k to spend u'd be better off with the b18c1 and turbo....imo

strodda
03-15-2003, 10:23 PM
bottom line, if you want to go turbo, dont get the c5. but personally i like the all motor route. but for youre budget, if youre set on getting turbo, get the b18c1 or the b16 like everyone else is mentioning.

and about an itr only being a 14sec car, thats not true. a friend of mine has one and runs 13's consistantly, and he hasnt even worked the internals yet.

civickiller
03-16-2003, 02:40 AM
hes not autox, he just wants more power or something.

i think for show, type r turbo is the shit
but for performance gsr turbo is the shit

CAptynCrunch
03-16-2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by B16EJ1


Why do people always say that? The hype about Type R's is what's put out by people who wish they had a Type R. The people with Type R motors build Honda's for what they were made for.... autox, NOT DRAG RACING!!!!

Because it's true man. The type-R engine has the same kind of hype as the type-R it's self. People are always slapping type-R stickers on their car because it's cool to have an R. just like it's cool to have a type-R engine.

And yes I know drag racing isn't the only form of racing. In fact I despise drag racing as a form of racing about as much as nascar. I see drag racing as more of a measure of engineering ability than driving ability, at least until you break the 10 second barrier, and only if you do it with a manuel.

And for anyone who said the type-R isn't made for racing, your wrong, just plain and simply wrong. The type-R is made exactly for racing(minus the fact that it's FWD). But the type of racing is the type honda has always designed they're cars for, track racing.

P.S. People please don't start an argument about how much skill is needed for drag racing and such, that's not what this thread is about.

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