Automotive History Trivia
Hudson
08-04-2001, 01:52 AM
FIRST QUESTION:
There were two production Taurus models available with a 5-speed manual transmission. One was the SHO with the Yamaha-built DOHC V6. What was the other one?
There were two production Taurus models available with a 5-speed manual transmission. One was the SHO with the Yamaha-built DOHC V6. What was the other one?
igor@af
08-04-2001, 12:01 PM
My guess would be LX..
am I right?
am I right?
Hudson
08-06-2001, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by igor@af
My guess would be LX..
am I right?
Sorry, no.
My guess would be LX..
am I right?
Sorry, no.
i_rebel
08-06-2001, 03:50 PM
Ahmmmm . . . the base model Taurus available in '86?
:D
:D
Hudson
08-06-2001, 04:12 PM
No...the model had a name.
josedi
08-06-2001, 04:16 PM
Okay there is a MT-5, GL, L, LX some came with 2.5 i4 90HP and the V6 3.0L 140HP engine . The MT-5 was only available with 5speed.
josedi
08-06-2001, 04:23 PM
Th SHO was introduced in 1988 with a 3.0L V6 220HP and 222 ft-lb. 10-1 Compression, very fast for a family car in those days.. Still fast today if it still runs.:bandit:
Hudson
08-06-2001, 04:26 PM
Jose: Correct...the MT5 was the model. It was offered in sedan and wagon with a 2.5L version of the Tempo's OHV four.
Hudson
08-06-2001, 04:28 PM
Easy question:
Which came first: the Ford Model A or the Ford Model T? Which came last?
Which came first: the Ford Model A or the Ford Model T? Which came last?
josedi
08-06-2001, 04:29 PM
thank you thank you, I am an encyclopedia of cars. Test me and i will get it right everytime, anyday, anyway..:smoker2:
josedi
08-06-2001, 04:38 PM
The Answer is the Model A:
And here is the History of Ford in a Nutshell.
EARLY FORDS
Ford made a good number of cars before the Model T was introduced. Beginning in 1903 they produced Models A, followed by Models B, C, F, K, N, R, and S.
There were also a number of "special" cars, sometimes referred to as still another model, "E" for instance, but more often just a part of the regular model-letter of the
time.
Ford's sales ledger books of the early years are in the files of the Research Library of the Henry Ford Museum, and in these the models and serial numbers were
listed as they were sold. Sadly, not all of the ledgers are extant but from those that do exist a good bit of information can be gleaned. Trent Boggess poured through
some of these books and compiled a lengthy list of the early models, their serial numbers, dates of sale, and the purchasers. From this data the following information
was obtained.
The records are, of course, not complete so there are gaps in the data. From the data we have, the following might be a guide. Remember, these are the dates of the
sale, not of manufacture. Serial numbers were not in calendar order in many cases, so one can not accurately date a car from the serial number unless, of course, that
particular car happened to be found in the ledgers.
Model A
First sale July 20, 1903. Last sale January 10, 1905.* Approximately 1750 were made, beginning with serial number
one. (Serial numbers 1, 2, and 3 apparently were never sold. Perhaps they were kept by Ford executives.) The Model
A was superseded by the Model AC (a Model A with a Model C engine) which continued the serial number sequence
of the Model A.**
Horsepower
8
Bore/Stoke
4 by 4 inches
Cylinders
2 opposed
Wheelbase
72 inches
Tread
55 inches
Price
$750. Tonneau, $100.
Leather top, $50. Rubber top, $30
Model AC
The Model AC was a later production Model A with a Model C engine.
Model B
The Model B was a four-cylinder touring car.
First sale October 20, 1904. Last sale June 30, 1906.* Approximately 500 were made, beginning with serial number
one.
Horsepower
24
Bore/Stoke
4-1/4 by 5 inches
Cylinders
4
Wheelbase
92 inches
Tread
55-1/2 inches
Price
$2000. Gas lamps extra
Model C
The Model C was an up-dated version of the Model A. The engine was a bit larger than that in the A. The Model C
sported a front "hood" which the Model C did not have, giving it a more modern appearance.
First sale November 17, 1904. Last sale December 14, 1905.* Approximately 800 were made, beginning with serial
number 1751(?)**.
Horsepower
10
Bore/Stoke
4-1/4 by 4-1/4 inches
Cylinders
2 opposed
Wheelbase
78 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
$850. Tonneau, $100.
Leather top, $50. Rubber top, $30
Model E (Delivery Car)
The "Model E" appears in some literature and is described as a delivery car. In 1905 Ford did produce a delivery car
based on the Model C chassis. The Ford catalogs described it as "Delivery Car" but no separate model letter was
assigned. The first sale was on March 4, 1905 (to John Wanamaker). The last sale was November 4, 1905*
Price
$950. Plus gas lamps.
Model F
The Model F was an updated version of the Model C, with a larger body, finders, and with running boards.
First sale March 4, 1905. Last sale May 22, 1906.* Approximately 1000 were made, beginning with serial number
2575** (a continuation from the Models A and C).**
Horsepower
Bore/Stoke
4-1/2 by 4 inches
Cylinders
2 opposed
Wheelbase
84 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
$1000. Plus gas lamps.
Model K
The Model K was a six-cylinder car available as either a touring or a roadster. Expensive ($25-2800), and not too
good, it was a poor seller and generally credited for Henry Ford's dislike for six-cylinder cars.
First sale April 16, 1906. Last sale September 30, 1908.* Approximately 900 were made, beginning with serial number
one.
Horsepower
40
Bore/Stoke
4-1/2 by 4-1/4 inches
Cylinders
6
Wheelbase
114 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
1905-06, $2500 plus gas lamps
1907-08, $2800, $3000 with top and lamps.
Model N
The Model N was a four-cylinder car, generally a runabout although a few special bodies were apparently built as well.
It had rudimentary fenders with no splaxh aprons or running boards.
First sale July 7, 1906. Last sale December 21, 1908.* Approximately 7000 were made, beginning with serial number
one.
Horsepower
15
Bore/Stoke
3-3/4 by 3-3/8 inches
Cylinders
4
Wheelbase
84 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
1907, $500.
1908, $600. Gas lamps and top extra
Trent Boggess' web page on his Model N
Model R
The Model R was a up-graded version of the Model N, using the same engine and chassis with minor improvements,
but with a somewhat larger body and with improved fenders and running boards. Its success resulted in the Model S.
First sale April 1, 1907. Last sale October 21, 1907.* Approximately 2500 were made, beginning with serial number
one. (The records show a fair number of Model R's being sold on May 17, 1909. There were none found between the
last date above and this date, and none after this date. Where these came from is unknown.)
Horsepower
15
Bore/Stoke
3-3/4 by 3-3/8 inches
Cylinders
4
Wheelbase
84 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
$750. Gas lamps and top extra
Model S
The Model S was similar to the Model N but with a bigger body, fenders, etc. It was sort of a compromise between the
Models S and R.
First sale February 4, 1907. Last sale February 1, 1909.* Approximately 3750 were made, beginning with serial
number one.
Horsepower
15
Bore/Stoke
3-3/4 by 3-3/8 inches
Cylinders
4
Wheelbase
84 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
$700. Gas lamps and top extra
And here is the History of Ford in a Nutshell.
EARLY FORDS
Ford made a good number of cars before the Model T was introduced. Beginning in 1903 they produced Models A, followed by Models B, C, F, K, N, R, and S.
There were also a number of "special" cars, sometimes referred to as still another model, "E" for instance, but more often just a part of the regular model-letter of the
time.
Ford's sales ledger books of the early years are in the files of the Research Library of the Henry Ford Museum, and in these the models and serial numbers were
listed as they were sold. Sadly, not all of the ledgers are extant but from those that do exist a good bit of information can be gleaned. Trent Boggess poured through
some of these books and compiled a lengthy list of the early models, their serial numbers, dates of sale, and the purchasers. From this data the following information
was obtained.
The records are, of course, not complete so there are gaps in the data. From the data we have, the following might be a guide. Remember, these are the dates of the
sale, not of manufacture. Serial numbers were not in calendar order in many cases, so one can not accurately date a car from the serial number unless, of course, that
particular car happened to be found in the ledgers.
Model A
First sale July 20, 1903. Last sale January 10, 1905.* Approximately 1750 were made, beginning with serial number
one. (Serial numbers 1, 2, and 3 apparently were never sold. Perhaps they were kept by Ford executives.) The Model
A was superseded by the Model AC (a Model A with a Model C engine) which continued the serial number sequence
of the Model A.**
Horsepower
8
Bore/Stoke
4 by 4 inches
Cylinders
2 opposed
Wheelbase
72 inches
Tread
55 inches
Price
$750. Tonneau, $100.
Leather top, $50. Rubber top, $30
Model AC
The Model AC was a later production Model A with a Model C engine.
Model B
The Model B was a four-cylinder touring car.
First sale October 20, 1904. Last sale June 30, 1906.* Approximately 500 were made, beginning with serial number
one.
Horsepower
24
Bore/Stoke
4-1/4 by 5 inches
Cylinders
4
Wheelbase
92 inches
Tread
55-1/2 inches
Price
$2000. Gas lamps extra
Model C
The Model C was an up-dated version of the Model A. The engine was a bit larger than that in the A. The Model C
sported a front "hood" which the Model C did not have, giving it a more modern appearance.
First sale November 17, 1904. Last sale December 14, 1905.* Approximately 800 were made, beginning with serial
number 1751(?)**.
Horsepower
10
Bore/Stoke
4-1/4 by 4-1/4 inches
Cylinders
2 opposed
Wheelbase
78 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
$850. Tonneau, $100.
Leather top, $50. Rubber top, $30
Model E (Delivery Car)
The "Model E" appears in some literature and is described as a delivery car. In 1905 Ford did produce a delivery car
based on the Model C chassis. The Ford catalogs described it as "Delivery Car" but no separate model letter was
assigned. The first sale was on March 4, 1905 (to John Wanamaker). The last sale was November 4, 1905*
Price
$950. Plus gas lamps.
Model F
The Model F was an updated version of the Model C, with a larger body, finders, and with running boards.
First sale March 4, 1905. Last sale May 22, 1906.* Approximately 1000 were made, beginning with serial number
2575** (a continuation from the Models A and C).**
Horsepower
Bore/Stoke
4-1/2 by 4 inches
Cylinders
2 opposed
Wheelbase
84 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
$1000. Plus gas lamps.
Model K
The Model K was a six-cylinder car available as either a touring or a roadster. Expensive ($25-2800), and not too
good, it was a poor seller and generally credited for Henry Ford's dislike for six-cylinder cars.
First sale April 16, 1906. Last sale September 30, 1908.* Approximately 900 were made, beginning with serial number
one.
Horsepower
40
Bore/Stoke
4-1/2 by 4-1/4 inches
Cylinders
6
Wheelbase
114 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
1905-06, $2500 plus gas lamps
1907-08, $2800, $3000 with top and lamps.
Model N
The Model N was a four-cylinder car, generally a runabout although a few special bodies were apparently built as well.
It had rudimentary fenders with no splaxh aprons or running boards.
First sale July 7, 1906. Last sale December 21, 1908.* Approximately 7000 were made, beginning with serial number
one.
Horsepower
15
Bore/Stoke
3-3/4 by 3-3/8 inches
Cylinders
4
Wheelbase
84 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
1907, $500.
1908, $600. Gas lamps and top extra
Trent Boggess' web page on his Model N
Model R
The Model R was a up-graded version of the Model N, using the same engine and chassis with minor improvements,
but with a somewhat larger body and with improved fenders and running boards. Its success resulted in the Model S.
First sale April 1, 1907. Last sale October 21, 1907.* Approximately 2500 were made, beginning with serial number
one. (The records show a fair number of Model R's being sold on May 17, 1909. There were none found between the
last date above and this date, and none after this date. Where these came from is unknown.)
Horsepower
15
Bore/Stoke
3-3/4 by 3-3/8 inches
Cylinders
4
Wheelbase
84 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
$750. Gas lamps and top extra
Model S
The Model S was similar to the Model N but with a bigger body, fenders, etc. It was sort of a compromise between the
Models S and R.
First sale February 4, 1907. Last sale February 1, 1909.* Approximately 3750 were made, beginning with serial
number one.
Horsepower
15
Bore/Stoke
3-3/4 by 3-3/8 inches
Cylinders
4
Wheelbase
84 inches
Tread
56 inches
Price
$700. Gas lamps and top extra
Porsche
08-06-2001, 05:29 PM
Uh :eek2:
primera man
08-06-2001, 05:34 PM
OMG...YOU ARE A WALKING ENCYCLOPEDIA !!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:
Hudson
08-06-2001, 05:41 PM
Or pulling it from a book....
Also, the Model A was the car that followed the Model T, making it the answer to BOTH questions.
Also, the Model A was the car that followed the Model T, making it the answer to BOTH questions.
Hudson
08-06-2001, 05:43 PM
TRIVIA:
What was the largest four-cylinder engine offered in a post-World War II, American-built car? What car was it in and what was the size of the engine?
What was the largest four-cylinder engine offered in a post-World War II, American-built car? What car was it in and what was the size of the engine?
Porsche
08-06-2001, 05:47 PM
I'm wondering if you are implying this to a Military or Civilian engine?
Lizard King
08-06-2001, 06:26 PM
Umm 156ci Plymouth?
Hudson
08-06-2001, 10:50 PM
...post-war, production, civilian passenger car.
It wasn't the 156cid (2.6L) Mitsubishi-powered Chrysler cars.
It wasn't the 156cid (2.6L) Mitsubishi-powered Chrysler cars.
olds88
08-06-2001, 10:58 PM
was the engine originaly desinged in the us?
Hudson
08-06-2001, 11:14 PM
While I don't like to give away clues...especially since many of my trivia questions have hidden tricks about them...I'll give you that one.
The engine was designed in the US.
The engine was designed in the US.
Hudson
08-08-2001, 01:01 AM
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
Lizard King
08-08-2001, 02:26 PM
I don't think anyone knows. You should give us the answer.
I'll have one last guess though. Is it in a Jeep?
I'll have one last guess though. Is it in a Jeep?
olds88
08-08-2001, 06:03 PM
the willys go devil engine was 2.2L i honestly think it was the of very few 4 cyls ou their
Hudson
08-08-2001, 11:52 PM
Since nobody likes this question...here's the answer:
Pontiac had a 194.5cid (3.2L) four-cylinder in the first Tempest in 1961. The engine was, quite literally, half of a 389cid V8.
Anyone care for some more trivia?
Pontiac had a 194.5cid (3.2L) four-cylinder in the first Tempest in 1961. The engine was, quite literally, half of a 389cid V8.
Anyone care for some more trivia?
igor@af
08-09-2001, 10:02 AM
Yes we do :D
Hit us with it, we're ready:cool:
Hit us with it, we're ready:cool:
Hudson
08-09-2001, 10:15 AM
What is the most recent American-built passenger car to be powered by an inline-six cylinder engine?
Remember...PASSENGER CAR, no trucks....not the Trailblazer/Envoy/Bravada or Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee/Wrangler.
Remember...PASSENGER CAR, no trucks....not the Trailblazer/Envoy/Bravada or Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee/Wrangler.
Lizard King
08-09-2001, 04:41 PM
Both Chrysler and Ford stopped using I6 engines in 83.
I believe the last was the AMC Eagle of 1987.
I believe the last was the AMC Eagle of 1987.
Hudson
08-09-2001, 11:48 PM
There was a 1988 AMC Eagle with a 4.2L six...but even that's not the most recent.
olds88
08-11-2001, 12:14 AM
89 chrysler fith ave with the old slant 6?
Hudson
08-12-2001, 12:40 AM
The Fifth Avenue (and Dodge Diplomat/Plymouth Gran Fury) gave up its six-cylinder in favor of a standard 5.2L/318cid V8 in the mid 1980s. It was not this car.
The Answer:
The BMW Z3/M Coupe/M Roadster are still produced with inline six-cylinder engines and the car is produced in Spartanburg, SC.
Anymore questions?
The Answer:
The BMW Z3/M Coupe/M Roadster are still produced with inline six-cylinder engines and the car is produced in Spartanburg, SC.
Anymore questions?
Lizard King
08-12-2001, 08:00 AM
Ahhh man! Sneaky, I knew they built them in the US but I didn't think they'd count.
OK, keep the questions coming.
OK, keep the questions coming.
olds88
08-12-2001, 08:20 PM
what was the first year of the gm 3800
Hudson
08-13-2001, 12:58 AM
Hmmm....interesting question and a variation of one of my questions. Let's see...GM's 3800 V6....first year?
There are, in fact, a number of answers to this question. I'll give all of them.
First, the 90-degree V6 that would become the 3800 V6 made its debut in the 1962 Buick Special as the 198cid (3.2L) V6. The engine evolved into 225cid (3.7L) V6 in the 1964 Buick Special and Skylark.
Kaiser Jeep Corporation takes over production of the engine in 1968. AMC takes over the Jeep portion of the company including production of this particular engine in 1970. AMC sold the engine back to GM in the early 1970s.
General Motors reintroduced the engine in the 1975 Buick Skyhawk, Apollo, Skylark, Century, and Regal, this time as a 231cid (3.8L) engine.
The engine officially became the 3800 in 1988.
Does that work?
There are, in fact, a number of answers to this question. I'll give all of them.
First, the 90-degree V6 that would become the 3800 V6 made its debut in the 1962 Buick Special as the 198cid (3.2L) V6. The engine evolved into 225cid (3.7L) V6 in the 1964 Buick Special and Skylark.
Kaiser Jeep Corporation takes over production of the engine in 1968. AMC takes over the Jeep portion of the company including production of this particular engine in 1970. AMC sold the engine back to GM in the early 1970s.
General Motors reintroduced the engine in the 1975 Buick Skyhawk, Apollo, Skylark, Century, and Regal, this time as a 231cid (3.8L) engine.
The engine officially became the 3800 in 1988.
Does that work?
Hudson
08-13-2001, 12:59 AM
Early next year, Cadillac introduces the new CTS. It will be available with a manual transmission. Prior to this car, what was the last Cadillac (model and year) to offer a stick?
olds88
08-13-2001, 09:43 PM
first very good answer
second your too damed smart:)
third the cadilac cimeron in 89?
second your too damed smart:)
third the cadilac cimeron in 89?
Hudson
08-14-2001, 12:01 AM
1988...but yes, the Cimarron was the last stick-shift Cadillac.
Hudson
08-14-2001, 12:04 AM
What brand has paced the Indy 500 more than any other? What was the most recent year that brand paced the race?
olds88
08-14-2001, 12:41 AM
heyy not too bad, the answer to the first part of the qustion is chevrolet i think but i dont have a clue on the second
olds88
08-14-2001, 12:43 AM
hey hudson here is a tech question for you going on with the cadilacs can u tell me were the starter is on a nothstar v8?
hermunn123
08-14-2001, 12:50 AM
I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!
under the intake manifold
under the intake manifold
olds88
08-14-2001, 12:51 AM
cadilacs enginering at its best those poor bastards
hermunn123
08-14-2001, 12:54 AM
hahahaha
Hudson
08-14-2001, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by olds88
cadilacs enginering at its best those poor bastards
Yeah...it's in the back of the "vee".
cadilacs enginering at its best those poor bastards
Yeah...it's in the back of the "vee".
Hudson
08-14-2001, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by olds88
heyy not too bad, the answer to the first part of the qustion is chevrolet i think but i dont have a clue on the second
Chevrolet paced the race 12 times.
1948 Stylemaster
1955 Bel Air
1967 Camaro
1969 Camaro SS
1978 Corvette
1982 Camaro Z28
1986 Corvette
1990 Beretta
1993 Camaro Z28
1995 Corvette
1998 Corvette
1999 Monte Carlo.
Oldsmobile is right behind with 11.
1949 88 Rocket
1960 Ninety-Eight
1970 4-4-2
1972 Hurst/Olds Cutlass
1974 Hurst/Olds Cutlass
1977 Delta 88
1985 Calais
1988 Cutlass Supreme
1997 Aurora
2000 Aurora
2001 Bravada
heyy not too bad, the answer to the first part of the qustion is chevrolet i think but i dont have a clue on the second
Chevrolet paced the race 12 times.
1948 Stylemaster
1955 Bel Air
1967 Camaro
1969 Camaro SS
1978 Corvette
1982 Camaro Z28
1986 Corvette
1990 Beretta
1993 Camaro Z28
1995 Corvette
1998 Corvette
1999 Monte Carlo.
Oldsmobile is right behind with 11.
1949 88 Rocket
1960 Ninety-Eight
1970 4-4-2
1972 Hurst/Olds Cutlass
1974 Hurst/Olds Cutlass
1977 Delta 88
1985 Calais
1988 Cutlass Supreme
1997 Aurora
2000 Aurora
2001 Bravada
olds88
08-14-2001, 06:31 PM
ok new question what was the name of the first fwd chevrolet
hermunn123
08-14-2001, 09:34 PM
i got a brainbuster for ya. what car(and the year) started the closed-car trend??
hermunn123
08-14-2001, 09:36 PM
ok new question what was the name of the first fwd chevrolet
the 1980 Citation
ya what's up!!
the 1980 Citation
ya what's up!!
Hudson
08-15-2001, 11:13 AM
Yes...the first production Chevrolet FWD car was the Citation. And I'm still working on the "closed car trend" question.
TOUGH QUESTION:
What was the most recent FWD pickup sold in the United States?
TOUGH QUESTION:
What was the most recent FWD pickup sold in the United States?
olds88
08-15-2001, 06:32 PM
hehehe i know this one the 2001 pt cruser
olds88
08-15-2001, 06:38 PM
but if im wrong i will tell you the reson for the answer: the chrysler bean counters were wored about all of the gass guzzling rams/durangos/and dakotas because of the extra tax the american goverment will put on for crappy gas milage so those braniacs decided to put the pt cruser in the truck catagoie (being the little pos econo box it is) to lower the goverments gas guzzling tax on the trucks.
now if i am wrong my second guess would be one of those turismo/pickup (i frogot there name)
now if i am wrong my second guess would be one of those turismo/pickup (i frogot there name)
olds88
08-15-2001, 09:33 PM
hehehe bonous question how was the radio mounted in the citation?
hermunn123
08-15-2001, 10:51 PM
HEY!! i got a pt cruiser!!! it's awesome!!! i'm gonna guess a toyota or nissan for the fwd truck
hermunn123
08-15-2001, 10:55 PM
the radio was put in vertically. HAH!!! what's up!!
olds88
08-15-2001, 11:04 PM
im sorry but i dislike the pt it is a "cute" car and quite nice but unfortunetly its a dog plus working at a chrysler dealer found that the engine compartment is smaller than most trunks any ways get a eaton supercharger on it then it would be a worthy car othewise it is just a expensive neon
hermunn123
08-15-2001, 11:07 PM
i didnt really notice that the engine compartment was that small, but they have too much plastic. it's probably a pain to take off all that crap. i think chrysler has plans for a turbo. wonder how they'll fit that in there.....
olds88
08-15-2001, 11:14 PM
with a lot of vasiline:D
there is verry little room
there is verry little room
Hudson
08-16-2001, 10:19 AM
I'm sorry to burst your bubble...but the question was "front-wheel drive pickup"...not truck.
By that definition, minivans are considered trucks and have been FWD since 1984.
What was the most recent FWD pickup sold in the United States?
By that definition, minivans are considered trucks and have been FWD since 1984.
What was the most recent FWD pickup sold in the United States?
Hudson
08-16-2001, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by olds88
but if im wrong i will tell you the reson for the answer: the chrysler bean counters were wored about all of the gass guzzling rams/durangos/and dakotas because of the extra tax the american goverment will put on for crappy gas milage so those braniacs decided to put the pt cruser in the truck catagoie (being the little pos econo box it is) to lower the goverments gas guzzling tax on the trucks.
now if i am wrong my second guess would be one of those turismo/pickup (i frogot there name)
The PT Cruiser is classified as a truck because of CAFE, not any extra tax. The CAFE law requires all of a car maker's cars and trucks to average a certain amount of fuel economy. Cars must average 27.5 and trucks must average 20.7. The four-cylinder PT Cruiser balances out the Ram pickups and Dakotas, like you said.
The Dodge Rampage and Plymouth Scamp pickups were a good guess...but not quite right. They ended production in 1986, I believe. There's been one since.
but if im wrong i will tell you the reson for the answer: the chrysler bean counters were wored about all of the gass guzzling rams/durangos/and dakotas because of the extra tax the american goverment will put on for crappy gas milage so those braniacs decided to put the pt cruser in the truck catagoie (being the little pos econo box it is) to lower the goverments gas guzzling tax on the trucks.
now if i am wrong my second guess would be one of those turismo/pickup (i frogot there name)
The PT Cruiser is classified as a truck because of CAFE, not any extra tax. The CAFE law requires all of a car maker's cars and trucks to average a certain amount of fuel economy. Cars must average 27.5 and trucks must average 20.7. The four-cylinder PT Cruiser balances out the Ram pickups and Dakotas, like you said.
The Dodge Rampage and Plymouth Scamp pickups were a good guess...but not quite right. They ended production in 1986, I believe. There's been one since.
olds88
08-16-2001, 09:31 PM
hmmmmm I.D.H.A.F.C
olds88
08-19-2001, 10:10 PM
ok hudson i dont think any one has a clue
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