Formula One?stuff It,it's A Joke.

Ater watching the Austria Grand prix today,I doubt very much if I shall bother again.EVER.For Barrichello to convincingly win the pole position,lead the race from start to final corner,and be ordered to hand the win to his senior team co-driver shows that this is no longer a motor racing series.It is nothing more than a very expensive attempt by the Ferrari management to ensure that their best hope gets every point that he can lay his hands on.

Team orders stink at the best of times,but todays decision by the Ferrari team management was the absolute worst I have ever seen.It cannot possibly affect the outcome of the series,and robs Barrichello of a well-deserved victory.

Schumacher was too ashamed to be on the race-winners podium,the crowd booed the result announcement and NOBODY believes that the result was decided on the track.Schumacher does not deserve the points,does not need the points,did not win the points.As races go, this one stank.Ferrari have just signed a 2 year contract with Barrichello.He must be wondering right now why the hell he bothered.

damn man...that's the kind of stuff that makes people watch nascar....:(

I wonder what the Ferrari sponsers such as Bridgestone, Marlbro etc. are thinking right now. Their golden boy has turned to coal.

It totally sucks. If I was Schumacher, I wouldn't have done it. I would have said that I had a problem with the accelerator or something and that I couldn't get past him.

I just saw the replay on the Speed Channel. I wish Schumacher wouldn't have done it. Barrichello is the one who deserved the win.

MD: the totally bizarre thing is that Ferarri would end up with the same points in the manufacturers' championship whether it was MS-RB or RB-MS :huh: It's just stupid. I was glad to see thet Schuey looked pissed off about it - apart from anything else, it implies that his team lacks confidence in him to win on his own merit - which is bizarre in itself. I agree with Andy (spec2) if it were me, I would have said my foot slipped off the accelerator out of the last corner. Hell, he could have coasted to the line ahead of Montoya...


Damn shame :mad: :(

yea schmaucher wasn't happy even tho he 'won' what bullshit thats why i have given up on F1

i gave up when damon hill left

i mean he was right when he said grooved tires and aeros have killed the sport of overtaking....... remember the days of slicks? !!!! bring em back

This is my VEIW i started in the OT that i'll just copy and post in here instead.........


After sitting up and watching the F1 last night from Austria,I could not beleive it when the Ferrari team told Barrichello to move over on the last lap so his team mate (Schumacher) could pass to win.....WHAT A F*CKIN JOKE IMO

If hes not good enough to win on the day....tough luck.
I know they race for the team....but what about the fans who watch and want to see a good race??
They are moaning about how the F1 is losing its apeal to some people....this only makes it worse.

One very dissappointed F1 fan
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Team orders are a joke.:finger4:

It shows that Ferrari don't have confidence in Schumacher's ability & that they don't respect Barrachello's skill.
Thats the way it appears to me anyway.It insults both drivers & the fans as well to do such a blaitently stupid thing.
Both drivers looked pretty pissed about it to.

The Panda hates bullshit like this.

Didn't watch it WON't watch it. The whole thing is a joke not just this incident.

F1 sucks.

I'll stick to watching rallys:finger:

The bottom line for me is seeing the way MS is going on about it now.....saying how he feels bad about it etc etc
Why the hell did he pass him for then !!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I watched F1 after along time as I was getting pi$$ed off :devil: with it...and what happens Ferrari go and screw it up so MS can win the championship....not as if he desperatly needed the 4 extra points anyway...he already had a commanding lead in the championship....I feel sorry for RB he had a great weekend up until the last corner.......don't think I'll bother watching again:devil:

I am a Ferrari fan, so I am happy that they won. Of course I am angry that Barichelo was told to move over. What a waste of his efforts.:mad: :(

Formula 1 went to shit after my hero Ayrton Senna died. He was the greatest and never should have gone to Williams.

OK, you're all asking for it.

First of all, I totally support the decision. ferrari have lost the championship by a handful of points for three years in a row, they are not taking any chances and I wouldn't want them to lose.

Secondly, this was never a race, so how can you say that rubens deserved the win? (for my full view on the subject go to the F1 forum) And who the hell is Barichello to win for Ferrari? (read this (http://www.geocities.com/rainqrazy32/files/lonely.htm))

Next point - why Michael passed / why rubens let him pass. ever heard of the thing called THE CONTRACT? Well, both drivers have it, and both have to do what they are told.

If you don't like F1, don't watch it. had I been in Jean Todt's position (or whoever made that decision) I would have done the same. Lots of F1 drivers and managers actually agree with it.

I have a lot more to say, but this is not the Forum to discuss it. The link is in my sig

Regards,
Alex

i used to like F1

team orders have always been a debate


but the loss of slicks has made the sport worse .. yes the cars can drive upside down (theoretically due to the downforce produced) but since losing slicks they have to put up with dirty air meaning wind turbulance and less overtaking as a result

Originally posted by ales
OK, you're all asking for it.

First of all, I totally support the decision. ferrari have lost the championship by a handful of points for three years in a row, they are not taking any chances and I wouldn't want them to lose.


But it wouldn't have made any differance if MS did finish second......you bloody MS fan :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: ...j/k

Originally posted by primera man


But it wouldn't have made any differance if MS did finish second......you bloody MS fan :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: ...j/k

yes I am and how would you know? A couple of DNFs and his advantage is gone!

F1 is like watching paint dry, has been for years.

slicks-shmicks, what they need to do is go back to a different brake rotor material (not carbon) and give the drivers more input than the onboard computers.

Originally posted by ales
OK, you're all asking for it.

First of all, I totally support the decision. ferrari have lost the championship by a handful of points for three years in a row, they are not taking any chances and I wouldn't want them to lose.

Secondly, this was never a race, so how can you say that rubens deserved the win? (for my full view on the subject go to the F1 forum) And who the hell is Barichello to win for Ferrari? (read this (http://www.geocities.com/rainqrazy32/files/lonely.htm))

As P-man said, Ferrari get the same points whether it was RB-MS or MS-RB.

And as for that link, so what? What on earth does that have to do with whether or not Barrichello "should" win, when he was better than everyone else the entire day? What the hell do you mean "this was never a race"???

Go to F1 forum and read my thoughts there. Most of your questions are answered there.

Originally posted by ales


yes I am and how would you know? A couple of DNFs and his advantage is gone!

I think ferraris decision did ruin the race, but i gotta agree with ales. wot would happen if m/s had another accident, or the williams just developed their car better towards the end of the season? what if they only won it by the 4 points gained in austria. i bet all you lot in here wouldnt be sayin how shitty the decision was then, in fact, i bet half of you would start sayin how you had agreed with ferrari from the start.

none of you understand (especially non-europeans) how much the world championship means to ferrari after so many years of being so close but not close enough. and it DOES matter which way the 2 drivers finish because the drivers championship is way more prestigious than the constructors title to any F1 team

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


what if they only won it by the 4 points gained in austria.

. and it DOES matter which way the 2 drivers finish because the drivers championship is way more prestigious than the constructors title to any F1 team

In the unlikely event that MS does win by such a slender margin,I for one will remember it as the season that he won by shitting on his team-mate.The win was not his.He shouldn't have taken it,and if it affects the outcome of the whole season it will put a stain on the value of the 2002 trophy.

Can't we go back to the days when F1 was a fair sport,and crossing the line first actually mattered?

Originally posted by taranaki


In the unlikely event that MS does win by such a slender margin

If you watched F1 during the late nineties then you will know that this isnt such an unlikely event, and it has happened before when the title came down to the last race (and ferrari lost)

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


If you watched F1 during the late nineties then you will know that this isnt such an unlikely event, and it has happened before when the title came down to the last race (and ferrari lost)

true, but they never used to have such a big advantage so early in the season..... not a common thing in the past