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Replaced Door Pin's and Bushings Today


JoshBarber
02-10-2005, 09:54 PM
I finally took care of that Clunk that I was hearing over bumps, and hitting the breaks quick or accelerating quick. (Long but worthe the read)

At first when I checked the hood bolt, like BlazerLT suggested, I realized it was making the exact noise I was hearing. I bought the two washers as reccommended (which are now made of metal, and more expensive then before approx $7 for the two). After installing them, I shook the hood and no clunk could be heard. You can imagine my frustration when I took a test drive, and heard the same clunk as I pulled out of my driveway. I checked the hood again, which did not move, and scratched my head.

After several starts and stops back and forth in my driveway, I tried popping my passenger door open to see if the noise would be changed.....SURE ENOUGH, it was coming from the passenger door.

Upon further inspection of the hinge pins and bushings, I realized one of the bushings was broken and crumbling. I could only VERY VERY slightly move the door up and down from this one bushing....and I couldnt get it to make the noise by hand....only got it to STOP by opening the door while stoping and starting.

I bought the tool reccommended from NAPA for GM Vehicles to compress the door spring. I paid approx. $20. I would say it's worth the money. It would be near impossible without it. I read a few suggestions to try to do it without, but now knowing how strong the spring really is, I wouldnt take the chance. Too dangerous.

Purchase the pins, bushings, and retainer clips. (I reccommend getting them from the dealer, as they're cheap, and you know they are made for your vehicle.)

Learn from my mistakes. It's not as easy as you'd think if you don't.

Parts:
each door takes 2 pins/4 bushings/2 locking clips

1. Make sure you have another person to assist. You'll kill yourself trying to rely on the jack stands alone. It's impossible to hold the door and remove pins, connectors, etc. Trust me, the door is HEAVY. Cover the jackstands with towels to protect you door paint.
2. DO NOT TRY TO DO IT WITHOUT REMOVING THE DOOR. I spent an hour trying to do it one hinge at a time, then just supporting the door with it still hooked up to its electrical connections...only to realize it needed to come all the way off anyway. You'll be lucky if you don't mess up wires. Had I done this from the beginning, it would have been MUCH easier. There's only TWO connectors that need to be unplugged anyway. Pop the window control panel, remove the two screws under the hand rest, and pop the door out bottom first-then lift up and off. Remove the two connectors, feed them back out the door, and now you're ready to remove the rest.
3. Use your spring tool on the two FURTHEST notches of the spring. Make sure its seated as far in as possible or it could slip off and hurt you. Make sure it's as far in as possible so you can compress it the max amount possible-you'll need it. Tighten the 1/2 inch (13mm) nut till the spring easily pops off it's to securing points. I reccommend throwing a heavy towel over it as you remove it from the door just as another safery precaution. I left the tool on the spring with it compressed, and the towel over it to make the reinstallation quicker.
4. Now remove the small retainer clips from the pins, and knock the pins out. The top one you'll hammer out from the top, and the bottom one from the bottom. (NOW IS WHEN YOUR ASSISTANT WILL COME IN HANDY) When you remove the first pin, they'll have to support the door to keep it in line or else you won't be able to get the other pin out. If the door is cocked, you'll have a hard time removing the pin. Have the two jackstands underneath to make it easier for them.
5. Now you'll need to remove the 4 bushings. The two on the top hinge remain on the car, while the bottom two remain on the door itself. (Another definate reason for removing the door completely.) I used the head of an old pin as a punch to hammer them out.
6. Clean all the surfaces the best you can, and install the 4 bushings the same way they were originally. If your bushing holes are over-sized from wear, they may just pop in, and you'll have no problem. Mine however, were a bitch. I needed to press them in. DO NOT HAMMER THEM, AS I LEARNED THE HARD WAY, THEY'RE BRITTLE, AND THEY'LL CRUMBLE. I ended up pressing them in with pliers, but I reccommend the correct tool for this. Make sure they're completely seated.
7. Now grease your pins, and bushings, and have your assistant again support the door on the jackstands, as you feed the cables back through the door. Have match the door up to the hinges as you replace the pins and hammer them in till they are completely seated as well.
8. Replace your two retainer clips, and make sure they're seated on the thin groove at the tip of the pin.
9. Reinstall the spring.
10. Reconnect your two electrical connectors.
10. Reinstall the door panel, and window control panel...and you should be good to go!

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I know this seems like a long post that seems simple, but I wish I had the chance to read it before I did the job. Hope it helps someone!

DaveLance
02-11-2005, 09:10 AM
Thanks Josh, I need to replace the pins/bushings on my drivers side door. I'm sure this will come in handy.

500
02-11-2005, 10:17 AM
Use a floor jack to support the door. Pad the jack's lifting surface. The jack is infinitely adjustable which makes it easier to line things up.

500

ctla4
02-15-2005, 05:22 PM
Hey Josh, what year is your blazer?
I have a 99 and have the same problem on my driver's door. I really hate disconnecting wires, but guess I should.

ricksza
02-15-2005, 06:02 PM
I usually use a 5/16 nut, bolt & washers, and a 3/8 nut, bolt & washers with a socket to press the bushings in place.

majical
02-15-2005, 07:12 PM
I put the jack stands on my creepy crawler to place under the door to give to get easer movement of the door. (someone still has to hold the door steady) This way I could move the door far enough away from the body without disconnecting the wires. Was great for reinstalling the door afterwards

chcknugget
02-15-2005, 10:54 PM
Good job.

I'm glad you got the tool, it is definetely worth it. I found pins were cheapest at the dealer too, plus you know you're getting the correct parts.

Hahaha I learned the hard way that you have to replace both pins at the same time too!

JoshBarber
02-16-2005, 07:09 AM
Hey Josh, what year is your blazer?
I have a 99 and have the same problem on my driver's door. I really hate disconnecting wires, but guess I should.

Mine is a 98 LT

ctla4
02-17-2005, 07:41 AM
thanks for the help guys, ill try this weekend.

JoshBarber
02-23-2005, 11:06 AM
I had someone ask me for the P/N for the NAPA door spring tool for GM vehicles in a Private Message. So I figured I'd post it here so everyone can get to it.


NAPA P/N - 770-3818 $22.56

PACHOPPERS4LIFE
04-03-2005, 02:56 PM
Thanks For The Info On Door Pin's @ Bushings, Have To Change On Inlaws 98 Blazer Driver's Front Thank's Alot

PACHOPPERS4LIFE
04-03-2005, 03:15 PM
Thanks For The Info On Door Pin's @ Bushings, Have To Change On Inlaws 98 Blazer Driver's Front Thank's Alot :smile:

rental blazer
04-03-2005, 09:42 PM
will this also take care of the drooping door prob on older cars like my 85?

BlazerLT
04-04-2005, 03:47 AM
Stickied and will be used in the helpful hint subsection that will be created.

ricksza
04-04-2005, 10:41 AM
If you don't totally remove the door off the vehicle, run a strip of tape down the front edge of the door and the rear edge of the fender. This will prevent paint chips on the edges.

chcknugget
04-05-2005, 12:08 PM
How much did you guys pay for your new bushings?

I bought 8 of them from my dealer last November for 35 cents a piece. Now the same dealer wants $2.33 per bushing. I know it's only a matter of a few dollars, but what did you pay/ where did you get them?

For $2.33 a bushing I would rather get a harder metal that doesn't wear out from a door swinging a couple of times. I think that bronze or whatever was a poor choice of materials.

skyzend
04-15-2005, 10:38 AM
Now have to do the door hinges on my 99 for a second time.
Spring tool is great, although I went a different route and just dropped into a local body shop. I borrowed the tool for 5 minutes in the parking lot for 5 mins to extract the spring and again the next day when the new pins were in. they even offered a ratcheting box wrench along with the tool. Nice guys ...

As for supporting the door. I have a 2 car garage. I just pulled the car under the garage door rail between the 2 bays and supported the door from above withe a rope through the open window ... did I mention that I opened the window first. this was great as I was able to do the job without an extra set of hands.

As for paint chips ... None that I can see. Wasn't really an issue

BlazerLT
04-15-2005, 12:50 PM
Grease ALL your pins and bushing with a thin grease every oil change.

sledman
05-23-2005, 08:08 PM
thanks for the info i will try it this week thanks so much!!!!!!!!!

swalt
06-14-2005, 01:08 PM
I usually use a 5/16 nut, bolt & washers, and a 3/8 nut, bolt & washers with a socket to press the bushings in place.

To anyone installing the bushings, use ricksza's method. You will just destroy the brass bushings if you tap them in. Use the bolt/washer/bushing/socket/washer/nut method (in that order) and they will go in easily....and I would suggest pulling the door skin and disconnecting the harness mounted above the speaker and take the door right off the truck. It makes the job so much easier, especially to install the bushings on the door. I used a jack with a 2x12x12 plank covered with a towel and tape along the door. My wife was able to hold the door this way while I aligned the new pins. The job was a piece of cake with the hints you guys provided.

Brokebyford
06-20-2005, 04:15 AM
thanks for the info i will try it this week thanks so much!!!!!!!!!
This must be another known GM problem that they just choose to ignore.I just bought a 98 slt and surer that sh*t the drivers side hinge bushings are bad.Talked to 2 other guys at work who have the same type Jimmy and they said their drivers doors are sagging too.

dirtty
07-07-2005, 12:45 PM
I have a 98 and I changed the pins and bushing once already but I think the holes are oversized and the door is still loose. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

BlazerLT
07-07-2005, 05:01 PM
Are you guys lubing the hinges with anything?

They have to be lubed almost twice a month if you use your truck allot.

BlazinSaddles
07-09-2005, 10:10 AM
Doing mine this weekend.

ice2626
07-10-2005, 04:53 AM
Got to do mine this week, my driver door is sagging bad. Can't complain though, my truck is a 95' LT and my passenger door's bushings/pins are still solid. Replacing the weatherstrip along the roofs edge on both sides as well, getting water in on both doors. Hopefully this will solve that problem. Thanks for the "How To" on replacing the pins/bushings.

blazer_guy86
08-16-2005, 12:19 AM
Got a 98 LS here with 166k miles and the driver door was sagging a little and there was all kinds of racket comeing from the driver and passenger door. I just replaced the bushings and pins on the front doors and now there's not as much interior noise over bumps and no more air leak around the driver door.

Funny thing... Two of the bushings on the driver door were so worn out they had fallin out of place. This could be why my door was saggin 1/2 inch.

michaelreinard
10-31-2005, 08:39 AM
Great post... I just replaced my pins this weekend. I couldn't find the tool at any of the shops in town so I resorted to a crowbar... that won't help you get it back on, however, but the door works fine without it. Will order the tool and finish the job later.

davydawg
11-14-2005, 09:47 AM
one thing i wish i did, before you do anything crack your window, it gives you something to hold on to.

black wall st
11-16-2005, 08:55 PM
I have a 96' blazer, and we all know they sagged, however i ordered my replacement set for both doors from a florida fastner company, anyways, i was having alot of wind noise on the interior, i am hopping that the replacement pins and bushings will fix this, but has anyone replaced the rubber seals or anything else to improve the seal? or does the pins take care of it?

mixin
10-25-2007, 07:07 AM
Link for cheap door spring tool:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95344

also in stock at the retail locations

7T9Shark
11-01-2007, 09:12 PM
The best deal I could find on the pin/bushing set was at Rockauto.com at $3.72 per set. (two sets per door, plus shipping for $13) I found this AFTER I paid $25 rip-off at the Chevy dealer.

No way are these parts worth anything more than what Rockauto charges.

Good thread though....I'll be doing mine this weekend.

:frown:

7T9Shark
11-01-2007, 09:14 PM
The best deal I could find on the pin/bushing set was at Rockauto.com at $3.72 per set. (two sets per door, plus shipping for $13) I found this AFTER I paid $25 rip-off at the Chevy dealer.:frown:

No way are these parts worth anything more than what Rockauto charges.

Good thread though....I'll be doing mine this weekend.

Schrade
02-01-2008, 11:18 PM
... this was great as I was able to do the job without an extra set of hands.

As for paint chips ... None that I can see. Wasn't really an issue

I did both doors solo; lower hinge first, then the top.

Took my time on the first, and got expert for the second, and quickly chiseled the paint from the door edge on the front fender corner.:eek:

Take your time.

flstc
04-07-2008, 08:06 AM
Replaced both front doors on my 2000 Jimmy yesterday. Sure was helpfull to have all the advice here. Only took about an hour a door. Thank you. dan

Ralph50
05-11-2008, 11:20 PM
I found another way without the helper.
I put 2 of those harbor freight ratchet nylon straps under the top of the door and suspended from my garage beam parallel to the door when open. Was able to gently pull the door away and let it hang there with wires still attached.
The door is still not aligned at the pin strips and has to move up at the striker when closed.
I am going to pull the top pin down 1/2 inch and lift door and put a washer or two above the head of the bushing, this will raise the door a little.

R

steady_eddie
09-29-2008, 05:15 PM
Replaced my bushings Saturday without a helper. It went smoothly thanks to this excellent thread ! I supported the door top using a block and tackle, then moved it back and forth with a floor jack. Thanks for the great info.

kevin292
11-22-2008, 01:58 PM
How do you replace the entire hinge on a 2001 s10, holes are egged out and bushings just fall out?

wafrederick
11-22-2008, 02:36 PM
You do not replace the whole hinge,it is welded to the door from the factory and replacing the whole hinge is a pain in the butt to do.You can get just the pins and bushings at most parts stores.A special tool is required for the spring between the door and the body,a compressing tool which you use a 1/2" wrench with

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