Another New Zealand made Body kit

Hello All,
I have found another made NZ kit, but at this point i have only seen the front,
Here it is

front on

Looks like a roo-catcher. I bet that thing must shred rabbits.

dont really like it, too many sharp curves. and looks too low.

Originally posted by AznVirus
dont really like it, too many sharp curves. and looks too low.

It's just ulgy. :) Of course that's just my view based on the pics...

I dont like it ither. I like G20's with clean body kits, not agressive kits.

Without trying to stir, I honestly can't see what you lot like about Primeras. They have short, square fronts, there's no 2 door model, no turbo, and they look like an old Lancer.

My mate is doing his best to do up his, but when all is said and done it's going to look like a done-up Primera.

What about Skylines? Legacies? Even new Lancers are starting to look great. Is this a case of making the most of your car, (like I tried to do with my old Lancer) or do you guys really like them better than other more aggressive looking cars?

In one word ...YUK :eek: :eek: :eek:

its not all that..
probably looks better with a full body kit and painted

Originally posted by Halcyon
Without trying to stir, I honestly can't see what you lot like about Primeras. They have short, square fronts, there's no 2 door model, no turbo, and they look like an old Lancer.

My mate is doing his best to do up his, but when all is said and done it's going to look like a done-up Primera.

What about Skylines? Legacies? Even new Lancers are starting to look great. Is this a case of making the most of your car, (like I tried to do with my old Lancer) or do you guys really like them better than other more aggressive looking cars?

The good thing about the car game is everyone has there likes and dislikes and has there own opinion.
My opinion on old Lancer's is that they look boring and square and look nothing like a Primera.
So we all have our different veiw's on cars

In answer to your question about "do we really like them"....i guess we wouldn't own one if we didn't like them.
Sure we all would like a new Skyline/WRX etc....but you make do with what you got.

Originally posted by Halcyon
Without trying to stir, I honestly can't see what you lot like about Primeras. They have short, square fronts, there's no 2 door model, no turbo, and they look like an old Lancer.

What about Skylines? Legacies? Even new Lancers are starting to look great.
Not to stir the pot but every car you mentioned is not available in the US or Canada. So what do you suggest I do? If the S15 Silvia was available here I'd be driving one, WITHOUT a doubt! If the Skyline was sold here I'd probably be driving an R32 GT-R, maybe a nice used R-33 GT-R.

You might not like the look of the Primera/G20 but I've had nothing but good comments from just about everyone whos seen my car.

Oops, to get back on topic.

You'd better have some serious turbo power to back up the ugliness of that kit. :D

Hi Grunter.. I'm still interested in the NZ rear side spiltters\ rear skirts.

Let me know when they'll be ready.

Thanks

How much would that kit cost? What kinda Kits do you think would look good on a 93 Black TE? Thankz!

That's all cool, I'm not saying you shouldn't like your cars. I'm asking from an aesthetic point of view, because there are plenty of vehicles others love that I dislike the look of. What is it about Primeras and G20s you like?

To me they share a lot of design features with other vehicles, but don't achieve what I consider elegant and balanced.

Maybe a better question would be: when you admire your car, which part do you look at first?

Originally posted by Halcyon
What is it about Primeras and G20s you like?...Maybe a better question would be: when you admire your car, which part do you look at first?
Windsheild, then the lights. Headlight shape is a very personal thing. You either like them, hate them, or you are not a car person.

The body kit is pretty crazy.......does one side seen a little off or is it just the shadows....
I would buy one though, cut the bottom rail in the center.
Then cut the sides open to expose the tread on my 17's,
this would make it more BTCC and less agressive.
Maybe a better question would be: when you admire your car, which part do you look at first?
I love the agressive slant Nissan gave to all the P10 side windows on the car, they really show once the car is lowered.
Without trying to stir, I honestly can't see what you lot like about Primeras. They have short, square fronts, there's no 2 door model, no turbo, and they look like an old Lancer.
Stir as you must, for everyones entitled to thier opinion.
Which year Lancer do they look like.......if anything the new Lancer here in America say Nissan loud and clear....
What do you think of a GTI-R powered P10 pulling up next to you at a red light Halcyon?
Would you give it the respect it deserves?

Just my 2-cents:)

My lancer was a 1990. I wanted to do something with it because it was "my car". but on the other hand hated it. That said, I love the new lancers.

Comparing the new lancer and the old primera side by side, you have a lot of similarities, but somehow the lancer gets away with the short hood. Perhaps it's the flared front arches, and the way the hood curves.

The agressive windscreen lines are definitely it's best feature, but I find that the rear end of the cabin could slope down more. But then it'd look like a skyline.

I'd love to hear what the designers were thinking when they made it, to see how they reached the conclusions they did on the primera, lancer, skyline, etc.

If a primera with a GTI-R engine pulled up next to me, I'd roast it in my TT GTO. :D

Originally posted by Halcyon


If a primera with a GTI-R engine pulled up next to me, I'd roast it in my TT GTO. :D
who gives a toss !!....j/k

Originally posted by primera man

who gives a toss !!....j/k
Funny thing. In high school there was the guy from NZ in our little group of friends. Anyway one lunch hour he didn't feel like eating his apple so he asked if anyone wanted it.

So I said, "Yeah just toss it over here." I didn't understand why he was rolling on the floor laughing his ass off till he told me what it meant in NZ.

So a couple years later when he went back to NZ I saw a recipe for some party mix and it bacically said "Put all ingredients in a bowl and toss lightly." I wanted to sent him the panel. :D

Hey dude, 20 posts to go. :D

Originally posted by Halcyon
Hey dude, 20 posts to go. :D
Yeah that and a buck will get me a small bag of chips. ;)

19...

Who makes the kit and any idea on $$?? I am looking for a front spoiler and with a bit of work that could be very nice!!


As for what I like about my Primera is its lines and the interior sure it may not have a turbo etc but as far as NA cars go it shits all over Honda and thats all that counts:D

I would have to say that a well set up turbo primera could toast a TT GTO "boat" any day.

Funny story...
I Went on a road trip last weekend with a couple of my mates. One has a GTX mazda familiar, and the other has a turbo honda predule pulling 220 horses with a 6 pound boost cut.

I made a couple of observations over the course of our trip.

* The GTX is fast out of the corners (esp at low speeds)
* The prelude was pretty quick overall.

But what was really amusing was how far they fell behind on the hills and corners. I guess thats one of the advantages of having a primera is the way the suspension is set up. You can take corners at ludicrious speed :)

And when we got to where we were going and they said that they couldnt keep up doing 150kph up a hill i had to laugh :)

Ah, but a well set up turbo primera could not beat a well set up GTO. Not by a long shot. :) Respect where it's due, I bow down to GTRs and WRXs, and bowing to a WRX is like having a 5'2 boss with short man's disease.

Suspension sure dows count for a lot on cornering, good tyres too. Have you got a strut brace? If not, get one. You'll notice the difference in cornering straight away, it's amazing what a piece of piping with bolts on the end can do.

There's one thing I'll never take away from a Primera, and that's that they're made by Nissan. Of course the Honda can't keep up. ;)

I guess you're also all probably seen this. (http://www.aerotech.co.nz/Makes_Menu/Nissan/NN60210/nn60210.html) If not, these kits are a bit flimsy but damn sexy. My mate is getting his full Primera kit next weekend, and I think he expects it to add 200hp. :D

For some reason all the site's pics look a little flat, but I've seen plenty of Foxton kits in person and they're by far the best. Tasteful, balanced, good quality.

Originally posted by Halcyon
Without trying to stir, I honestly can't see what you lot like about Primeras. They have short, square fronts, there's no 2 door model, no turbo, and they look like an old Lancer.

My mate is doing his best to do up his, but when all is said and done it's going to look like a done-up Primera.

What about Skylines? Legacies? Even new Lancers are starting to look great. Is this a case of making the most of your car, (like I tried to do with my old Lancer) or do you guys really like them better than other more aggressive looking cars? Go find a good stock Te or T4 manual and take it for a HARD drive on a bendy road that you know well. I sometimes drive other 'hot' cars and I'm thinking "this is cool" ... until I get to a corner or have to use the brakes ... after that I just want to be back in the Primera.

Better watch what you say bout them primera's Halcyon, David might get pissed off if he see's you talking like this. :)

Hey Yogi :)

David knows, I'm trying to get him to get a turbo, any turbo. It's a losing battle. :)

Originally posted by T4 Primera
Go find a good stock Te or T4 manual and take it for a HARD drive on a bendy road that you know well. I sometimes drive other 'hot' cars and I'm thinking "this is cool" ... until I get to a corner or have to use the brakes ... after that I just want to be back in the Primera.

Depends. The lancer was crap at cornering, the suspension was way too soft. You'd look out the side windows and see asphalt. :D

The skyline on the other hand: RWD, 4WS, good suspension, LSD, freakin brilliant. RWD is great for drifting around roundabouts.
The GTO was much the same except I'm not keen to drift in it, it has much harder suspension (yay!) and I got the surprise of my life the first time I had to hit the brakes mid-corner. The amount of oversteer you get when you do that in a 4WD is awesome, I can see it getting out of some tricky situations.

Primera is FWD in most cases, right? And the T4 is 4WD? Any 4WD is going to corner exceptionally, but hit a corner hard in a skyline and you can feel the 4ws compensating. It's a neat feeling.

As for FWD cornering.. well.. yeah. Good suspension and tyres is about all you can do for it.

I go on about 4ws a lot, but that's because I think it's a contributing factor in cornering that matters a lot when you're really going hard.

I'd like to take a RWD without LSD, 4WS, etc for a spin some time. The difference will be noticable.

I think david does want to get a turbo, hell its same with me. But the only thing stopping us is the insurance.
So for the time being we'll make our cars look nice.
Oh yeh, even the new lancers suspension is soft, I can feel the whole car leaning alllll the way over when cornering. Must save up for new suspension.

Originally posted by Halcyon


Depends. The lancer was crap at cornering, the suspension was way too soft. You'd look out the side windows and see asphalt. :D
My T4 has no body-roll, including when hot-lapping Pukekohe.
Originally posted by Halcyon
The skyline on the other hand: RWD, 4WS, good suspension, LSD, freakin brilliant. RWD is great for drifting around roundabouts.
I considered Skylines before the T4, but I need the boot space. The Skylines have the petrol tank mounted upright behind the back seat which gives a small boot. Didn't like the thought of my little ones sitting in front of a fuel tank either.
Originally posted by Halcyon
The GTO was much the same except I'm not keen to drift in it, it has much harder suspension (yay!) and I got the surprise of my life the first time I had to hit the brakes mid-corner. The amount of oversteer you get when you do that in a 4WD is awesome, I can see it getting out of some tricky situations.What?! No ABS? I think if you had ABS then the oversteer was more attributable to engine braking induced weight transfer, which increased weight/traction on the front and reduced weight/traction on the rear.

Originally posted by Halcyon
Primera is FWD in most cases, right? And the T4 is 4WD? Any 4WD is going to corner exceptionallyYep, T4 is 4WD, however the all conquering BTCC Primeras (back when BTCC budgets were unlimited) were FWD although they used the T4 rear pan. The saving in drive train losses and weight was enough to compensate for any extra traction.

Just have to adjust driving style for FWD and remember that buttoning off mid corner can induce oversteer, opposite to RWD. It's not instinctive the way RWD is when encountering understeer.
Originally posted by Halcyon
As for FWD cornering.. well.. yeah. Good suspension and tyres is about all you can do for it.The front suspension on a Primera (specifically third link) is quite different to anything else out there and the chassis is very rigid. The stock suspension, provided it is in good order, is a match for almost anything else on the road.
Originally posted by Halcyon
... but hit a corner hard in a skyline and you can feel the 4ws compensating. It's a neat feeling. ... I go on about 4ws a lot, but that's because I think it's a contributing factor in cornering that matters a lot when you're really going hard.
My mother has a 4WS 2.5 MX-6 and the 4WS certainly takes getting used to, like driving a car with a very quick ratio rack - very pointy. The P10 Primeras have adjustable rear toe which can be used to dial in understeer or oversteer as you wish.

Anyway, I think you were originally asking about the Primera cosmetics? Well personally, I think a car should go much harder than it looks (sleeper). Cosmetically, the Primera promises nothing that it can't deliver stock. I think the P10s are cosmetically similar to the 3 series BMWs of the same vintage (at least from the rear) and can certainly perform with them (from experience - Pukekohe). So if BMW decided to copy the Primera looks, it can't be that bad eh? :p :p

Originally posted by Yogi_B
I think david does want to get a turbo, hell its same with me. But the only thing stopping us is the insurance.
So for the time being we'll make our cars look nice.
Oh yeh, even the new lancers suspension is soft, I can feel the whole car leaning alllll the way over when cornering. Must save up for new suspension. Another option is to use the SR20VE engine. Naturally aspirated, variable valve lift and timing, 190hp stock compared with the 147hp SR20DE.

Originally posted by T4 Primera
Didn't like the thought of my little ones sitting in front of a fuel tank either.

Opposed to on top of it? ;)

Who makes the kit and any idea on $$?? I am looking for a front spoiler and with a bit of work that could be very nice!!

If you want more on this spoiler, go and see Basil @ Autopassion, 55 Riccarton Rd.

Cheers

Damnit. I hate saying things that piss people off. Now I have to reply to everyone.

Yogi: Damn straight, my insurance was limited to National Auto Club, and it's a $2k premium, $2k excess for an accident, and $4k if it's stolen. NAC are known to be tight with payouts too. On the other hand, if you don't crash it David-styles, boy is it worth it. :D
Get your Lancer lowered! :D

What's third-link suspension? Sounds nifty.

The skylines have a heavy, thick metal firewall between the seat and the fuel tank. If you remove it you lose another 20kgs, if that's any indication. :) I haven't heard of too many fireball deaths in accidents, but they probably happen outside of pintos and the movies.

I like 4WS because when it kicks in you know it's compensating for an imminent loss of traction. It's an easy way to know when to back off, and lets you corner a bit harder, a bit safer.

When I braked mid-turn in the GTO the entire car pulled to the center of the corner, way more than I expected. It didn't feel like engine braking at all. I haven't got the bloody thing at the moment so I can't go out and try it again just yet, but I'll let you know.

I've never cornered a good FWD before, but I know one very important thing:

FWD + handbrakes + dirt roads r0x0r!!!!

Originally posted by Halcyon
Damnit. I hate saying things that piss people off. Now I have to reply to everyone.

What's third-link suspension? Sounds nifty.

The skylines have a heavy, thick metal firewall between the seat and the fuel tank. If you remove it you lose another 20kgs, if that's any indication. :) I haven't heard of too many fireball deaths in accidents, but they probably happen outside of pintos and the movies.

I like 4WS because when it kicks in you know it's compensating for an imminent loss of traction. It's an easy way to know when to back off, and lets you corner a bit harder, a bit safer.

When I braked mid-turn in the GTO the entire car pulled to the center of the corner, way more than I expected. It didn't feel like engine braking at all. I haven't got the bloody thing at the moment so I can't go out and try it again just yet, but I'll let you know.

I've never cornered a good FWD before, but I know one very important thing:

FWD + handbrakes + dirt roads r0x0r!!!! I'm not upset!!!! :devil: OK!! :p :p

Have a look at your mates Primera to see third link suspension.

I didn't know about the rear firewall in the Skyline. Boot is still too small for my purposes anyway.

You were already in a slide in the GTO? I had assumed you were cornering conventional style and the back stepped out when you braked.

Uh-oh, FWD on DIRT roads. Now I see what your getting at. On dirt in FWD cornering you must get corner entry speed right. Turn in with no throttle, and brake if necessary to get the back to step out. Control the attitude of the car by feathering the throttle - throttle on for understeer and off for oversteer (opposite of RWD). Position on the corner using steering inputs.

I wasn't sliding in the gto (too damn scary after a recent episode), but felt mid-turn it would be prudent to slow down. The whole front pulled inwards. Is that normal for a 4WD? I got the impression it gave a lot more cornering ability.

The dealer has just told me I cna pick the GTO up again this evening, so I'll see if I'm just talking out my ass then.

I felt in the old lancer there was no understeer/oversteer control at all. If it got to that point it had probably already lost traction and flown off the corner. Keep in mind this wans't a performance vehicle at all, just some POS car I used to own. That's probably why I think FWD sucks so much. I'll have to bug Dave for a drive of his Primera. :D

Originally posted by G-Forces

Opposed to on top of it? ;) I like the idea of the underfloor tank being more ... er ... external ... to the vehicle. Consider an impact ruptured fuel tank in both scenarios, where is the spilled fuel going to go.

If the trunk fills up with spilled fuel, it creates a large vapour filled space = explosion. Underfloor tank will spill into the open so less risk of explosion.

Originally posted by Halcyon
I'll have to bug Dave for a drive of his Primera. :D I hope it's a good one (primera).

Try the GTO both ways: mid corner braking as well as just mid corner throttle lift off. I know my T4 will 4 wheel drift on a tight bend (hairpin or tight roundabout) with the power on. You don't realise it's happening until you lift off and the car quickly hugs into the corner.

For great slidey-driving tips of all drive configurations (fwd,rwd,awd), have a look here:
http://www.drivingtechniques.co.uk and look in techniques in the menu.

Another good one for tarmac circuit driving is www.turnfast.com

It great fun to read the theory and then find somewhere safe to try it out. I actually have a FWD, a RWD and an AWD to play with, although the RWD needs re-certifying first ...

Tip for the day: Don't do handbrake turns in a 4WD unless it has an open centre-diff. Can be an expensive mistake.

I'm sure David will let you have a spin, he let me have a go at it.
I didn't give a thrash so I couldn't get a good feel for the whole car.
But what I could tell is that its faster than my lancer.
Probably it having a bigger engine and being manual opposed to auto in my case.
And damn gravel driving is fun, that little patch to the entry of meremere is a place to have a quick gun, I don't have enough balls to pull the handbrake though.

Handbraking on dirt is easy, just start small and move up to "WOOOO 360" :)

I think Davids pissed off his name comes up here so often. :)

T4: I got the GTO back, I'll have a play tonight. :D

that kit is fugly. it looks hungry and is going to make the car look like a snowplow.

from a purely aesthetic point of view the primera/g20 has some clean lines.

for me, bulbous organic looking cars don't do it. i want something that looks a machine. a sports sedan needs it's fair shares of angles and curves. the volkswagon/audi stylish gives the impression of a protractor. those cars are all curves and circles.

i don't know what the style of imports in the southern hemisphere is like but many north american tuners (mostly honda) buy the biggest and ugliest looking kits on earth.

some of us want our cars to remain machines. not some hyped up animal/machine hybrid.

that kit is uggggggggglllllllly shit i be damned to pay money for that bull shit
:silly2:

I actually like the looks of this kit. I will admit that it is an aggresive kit though but I don't mind it. I am thinking of maybe replacing this kit with the factory TE model kit. They also do side skirts and rear spoiler (Seemingly, the full body kit looks like a car from the Fast & The Furious!).

I actually like the looks of this kit. I will admit that it is an aggresive kit though but I don't mind it. I am thinking of maybe replacing this kit with the factory TE model kit. They also do side skirts and rear spoiler (Seemingly, the full body kit looks like a car from the Fast & The Furious!). I would like some more opinions though froom you guys on what I could modified to the front bumper. Please help guys. Thanks.

- Dan

Anyone? I just need some ideas on making this kit look less aggresive and more sporty kinda - lol. Can someone help? I mean what would you do to this kit if you had it?

Originally posted by dan_nz_man
Anyone? I just need some ideas on making this kit look less aggresive and more sporty kinda - lol. Can someone help? I mean what would you do to this kit if you had it?
Originally posted by p_r_i_m_e_r_a
I would buy one, cut the bottom rail in the center.
Then cut the sides open to expose the tread on my 17's,
this would make it more BTCC and less agressive.
Just my 2-cents:)

Thanks Primera. Any other opinions or comments?

damn that sum crazy shit!
well the grille looks tight, but yea the bumper looks WACK!
get better pics thou!
well let me know if u got sum better shit!peace
:devil:

Haha I did some photoshoping and made it look the way id have it :)

What about the black widow? You like that one? www.picturetrail.com/asianata go to the bottom. :alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash: