ULTIMATE SCRATCHBUILD: 1:12 Hot Rod-Updated 03/12/06

those rims are really tight, nice progress, all parts of my body that is able to be crossed is crossed for you right now :) good luck

Looks awesome mike!!! keep it uppp!!!!!

Nice work, Mike!

Looking at the rim, wouldn't it be easier to build up the tunerish 5 spoke into the Crager (or whatever) 5 spoke style rather than remove all that material only to add it again? I know you want deep dish, but wouldn't it be easier to add a deep dish using one of the 2 methods in the how to depository than to remake all that material?

Good luck with it, either way!

wow thats alot of progress Mike. Nice rim, i like the design of them. Keep it up!

That's some sharp looking work Mike. Just be sure to watch that welder, I hear that if you get too careless with it, you could electricute your dick...(for those who don't get it, please see my sig)

just playin man. Keep up the good work, that chassis is looking great.

holy cow man! that looks awesome!


god damn dude that is som f*****g good work what do you do for a living sins you go so beatiful work

teach me master hehe little repeating there

Been following this thread since the beginning, and I must say that your project is surpassing every one of my expectations. When you said scratchbuild, you really meant it. Pieces of raw steel coming together under the torch to become an automobile. The metalworker can do this, but it takes an artist to do it and make it look good.

Mike, it's lookin' good.

great job mike!! keep up the awesome work and dont give up!!!!!!!!

Heres a quick little "update". Its just a rough sketch of a tap to be tapped into the frame rails for the body to bolt to. it is an extremely tiny part. Soon I will draw it in CAD for a much clearer and accurate view. The drawing was drawn at 50:1 scale, dimensions are the size the piece will be. The hole will be a M1.2 threaded hole. I will drill 1.5mm holes into the frame rails to insert these extremely tiny pieces.

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Nice work, Mike!

Looking at the rim, wouldn't it be easier to build up the tunerish 5 spoke into the Crager (or whatever) 5 spoke style rather than remove all that material only to add it again? I know you want deep dish, but wouldn't it be easier to add a deep dish using one of the 2 methods in the how to depository than to remake all that material?

Good luck with it, either way!

My plan is to use the spokes I have taken out. I will putty them up and shape them into the desired look. Then I will insert them back into the rim. However, if I can get the CNC mill at school working again I will machine the centers out of styrene or 6060 aluminum.

Been following this thread since the beginning, and I must say that your project is surpassing every one of my expectations. When you said scratchbuild, you really meant it. Pieces of raw steel coming together under the torch to become an automobile. The metalworker can do this, but it takes an artist to do it and make it look good.

Mike, it's lookin' good.

One of the best posts I have seen in this thread. Thank a lot, real deep, and deeply appreciated!

To everyone else, I really appreciate the replies, they keep me up when I am down.

UPDATES:

I spent a good part of the day working on the rim to be cast. Damn thats a lot of work. It doesnt look like much. There are a couple layers of styrene to get it almost flush with the lip of the rim. Then I puttied it up to get a nice flush finish...but still isnt smooth, just look at all the divets.

The spokes that are in the rim are just to give you an idea on my plan. My plan in which I will use the spokes, then modify them, and then set them back in the rim. Believe me, I love the way they look now...but its not going to stay :disappoin.

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Tomorrow I might reweld the frame and work on the wheels. Tuesday/Wednesday I will refill the tank, and weld/cut the front cross member. That is the planned agenda.

Enjoy!

lookin awesome mike. i too am in awe. i have been following this from the beginning and it is awesome to finally see it all coming together. bigger and better than in the beginning

The wheels keep getting better and better!!!!

This is a very cool project mike. Good luck with finishing it. IT looks very good for a scratchbuilt model. Have fun.

Hey Mike, thought you might enjoy this link. Project 33 (http://www.project33.com/index.htm) It might give you some motivation and ideas. I've been frequenting that build for a couple years, and have enjoyed it. It may not have the big names like Boyd and Foose or whoever you like so much, but it's a good build nonetheless.

Hey Mike, thought you might enjoy this link. Project 33 (http://www.project33.com/index.htm) It might give you some motivation and ideas. I've been frequenting that build for a couple years, and have enjoyed it. It may not have the big names like Boyd and Foose or whoever you like so much, but it's a good build nonetheless.
Thanks Will! Great site.

Welp, not much of the frame will change today and tomorrow. Tomorrow is my Uncles B-Day, so time to celebrate. Also not to mention I UV burned my forehead welding aluminium. That hurts...

I will try to get some work on the rims done hopefully.

EDIT: I took a crappy cam with me when I went to weld the other day.

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nice action shots..
keep up the excelent work.

looks awesome man! Love the wheels. Going to look great!

UPDATES: (56k users beware)

I guess its a little late warning those 56k users. :evillol: There are 15 pics to come.

Well, I got tired of cross members being welded in the wrong place or falling down while Im welding. So, I made a jig. A $30 jig. Went to St. Lowes this Sunday morning and bought some 16Gage, square tubing, and round bar and built myself a shitty jig that works.

I am also happy to say we finally got a bigger argon bottle. Wooooo-Hoooo!!! Twice the size for the same price as half the size (for refills).

Eh, here are the pics.

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You 56K'ers are lucky, the pic that should go here is bigger than your monitor.

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And now some dark shots with the big-ass motor.

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Well, at least with the jig I can go ahead and make my templates for the front cross member and order another $10 of steel tubing.

Enjoy!

WOW that looks like the real thing!!!, Excellent work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Wow, it's actually coming along! Very good work. Looks great. Perhaps you should just forget the body and make a model rolling chassis? J/K, great work!

Wow, that looks very nice. BTW what is a jig? :confused:

It looks real. You've certainly come a long way Mike. And ever little bit shows. Is the transmission still in primer?

P']Wow, that looks very nice. BTW what is a jig? :confused:

Jig-noun. object used to hold things in place for quick production. (Source is Mikes English Dictionary)

It looks real. You've certainly come a long way Mike. And ever little bit shows. Is the transmission still in primer?

Primer, yep...still isnt finished. Honestly, I got pissed off and left it.

BTW, how are you attaching the trans? With bolts or expoxy, or some kinda miracle trick your gona pull out your hat.

BTW, how are you attaching the trans? With bolts or expoxy, or some kinda miracle trick your gona pull out your hat.

The trans to the engines? Bolts and partial miracle....I still gotta make that stupid flange, and starter cover.

Nice jig, Mike! Hope it helps you get them damn crossmembers straight...

By the way, how many of your neighbors think you are building a go-kart? :biggrin:

UPDATES:

Well, I have to say, there may finally be a chance of getting this complete for NNL. As willimo would say, "your turbo has finally spooled up", meaning Im finally kicking ass on this project. Tonight was the first night I have had extra time, I ran out of shit to weld.

I welded in a few more cross members. I need to build my engine mounts, and front suspension before I attacch many more cross members (I need to see where the drive shaft runs into). So I guess I'll be making my front crossmember soon. I need to talk to my machinist about how long it will take for my shocks.

I'll shut up now.

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I really appreciate all your comments guys, I couldnt have gotten this far without y'all.

Fancy fraime. Lookes trick. Looks like... a frame. Can't beat that with a wet noodle. Great work!

Cute flower mike. :lol2: Everything looks great man:thumbsup:

This looks like a lot of work, realy good stuff. I can't wait to see how will you put that V8 monster on the frame.

Nice soo far Mike. BTW, is the frame welded to the jig? It looks like it in the pictures

yeah it looks like the fram is welded to the jig. that is so it doesn't shift while he is working on it. lookin great mike.

Yes, the frame is welded to the jig. Doesnt everybody like the flower too?

well Mike I am not a girl :smile: but I like nice flowers to so thanks for this one :wink: and it is a nice one and long long lasting

yo i got inspiration to also start a big ass hot rod in school :D cant u send me the flower and ill attach it to the back end :D

omfg this rod model is turning out to become a masterpiece
where did you get the engine
and trans from i got a 1:6 model from revell that i always can mould a copy of and mabye make som parts myself but god damn dude you a f.....g artist

Omfg :eek2: :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy
wow we are not worthy of you great one

yo i got inspiration to also start a big ass hot rod in school :D cant u send me the flower and ill attach it to the back end :D

Sorry, the flower was for a girl in my Auto class. Now I have to one up it and make her something better...

Steel flowers, how romantic.

omfg this rod model is turning out to become a masterpiece
where did you get the engine
and trans from i got a 1:6 model from revell that i always can mould a copy of and mabye make som parts myself but god damn dude you a f.....g artist

The engine is a Hemi 426 which I will be converting later on. For the trans, I made that from scratch, check pages around 38.

Sorry, the flower was for a girl in my Auto class. Now I have to one up it and make her something better...

Steel flowers, how romantic.



DANG! :D:D cant you make another one? :D:D

That looks great Mike. I've been gone to get ready for school and you've made a ton of progress. I can't wait to see what you do next.

UPDATES:

Not much to say, heres the drawing for the front struts to be machined out of aluminum.

http://mike.nwwo.com/XV/DSCF0013.jpg

Wow thats a very detailed Illustration. Nice job!

Drawings rock. I miss drawings.

So it will have working suspensions !
Is that the prototype for your 1:1 rod ?

hey thers not any build pics from fabrication that would be useful , er where did you get the engine from i've seen model kits for just engine's is that what you used?

the shocks looks positive to look great but why not just by some shock's for a rc car or is the plane to fabricate as much as possible yourself?

looks killer man! cant wait to see it done!

UPDATES:

Well, I had an hour weld session tonight. In that hour I had to cut, grind, and weld. I was able to get just enough of the front cross member done so I can do a little work on my end making motor mounts and the place for the control arms to sit.

Anyway, the welding wasnt to fun. I was in such a hurry that I didnt bother to check the settings. Somebody reversed the polarity. So it was a bit more difficult to weld, but the welds are still quality.

Here are the pics:

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Im really pissed off at how shittily it fits. I need to do some filling and grinding, but what was done is a good bit of progress. Its actually good to be rushed sometimes. Normally I would have taken my time and spent two, three times as long, to do just as well.

So it will have working suspensions !
Is that the prototype for your 1:1 rod ?

The plans are for this project. It will have working suspension and steering.

hey thers not any build pics from fabrication that would be useful , er where did you get the engine from i've seen model kits for just engine's is that what you used?

the shocks looks positive to look great but why not just by some shock's for a rc car or is the plane to fabricate as much as possible yourself?

I tried to take pictures every step of the way on the transmission build. The engine is a testors 1:6 Diecast Hemi 426, bought seperately. Im converting it all to ram air fuel injected.

As far as RC suspension, the coil overs and struts are too fat and ugly. I'd love to take credit for building the suspension too, but I only designed it. Its being sent out to be machined.

Holy Hell Mike!!!























You need a woman

:tongue:

looking awesome mike. keep it up

Long ways since I last seen it good job mike!

UPDATES:

Been working on these stupid wheels. They still need a lot of work before I can cast them, but its getting there. I need to get some tubing to for some detail.

Also now that Mr. Steve Hiroboy decided to raise the bar with his magnificent brakes I have thrown away my styrene brake idea and order $30 work of steel and supplies for my brakes. Now hopefully mine will be at least a quarter as good as his.

Im planning on starting the motor work rather sooner than I planned because November is approaching fast, and I need to get going.

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And just an FYI, the centers are still removeable. I'll probably keep the centers seperate from the rim when I cast them for a few reasons: A) its easier to cast B) I can use the mold(s) for other styles of rims C) Easier modification.

Dont give up no matter what, I never plan when I start, I start, then plan, so its ok if you didnt plan much. Keep it up its awsome so far and dont let challenges take you down, take em down, and build this beast.
Good luck and keep it up, post more pics plz.

EXCELLENT WORK. this is going to be big. A lot of people are beginning big models now. lol. And i like them ALOT!

The wheels are looking realy good, nice and deep, those are rear wright? How deep will front go? or they will be flat? To many questions :-)

wheels are looking sweet man! Good idea to keep them seperate! Much easier! Yea, november is coming quite quick isnt it!

You could put a small child in that wheel. Nice work. Where're you gettin' 'em cast?

Those wheels are looking great Mike. They look like the Plymouth Prowler wheels :iceslolan

Awesome job!

dude, just to let you know, this build up is the only reason i come to this website anymore. i absolutely respect you for doing a build like this. good luck, and i cant wait to see some more progress

Amazing project! All parts are great!

(Swear word that starts with F) Ing NICE

Sheesh it's ridiculous that you're even doin this, gonna be really nice when she's all done, too bad it's not big enough to drive :P What were you thinking! :screwy: hehe j/k man Damn, I wanna see this when it's done.